Need Help on Travel Insurance about Personal Liability

justwii on 05/05/2022 - 01:42

When looking closely on the terms of a few travel insurances, I found something that were shocking to me:

If you accidentally injure your mates who are travelling with you, your travel insurance won't cover them
If you accidentally injure anyone in a car crash, your travel insurance won't cover them

I mean WTF? The 2nd point may be OK as CTP covers that, but still, its totally unrelated to the travel insurance.
But for the 1st point, the personal liability part only covers others but not those travelling with you in an accident??? So if I understand it correctly, I could be facing any lawsuit amount coming from them and my travel insurance won't pay a dime for me! I can't understand the rationale behind this clause at all.

What is the type of insurance I need to get to protect myself from that situation?

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Hybroid on 05/05/2022 - 01:46

+3

Maybe the insurer deems it higher risk for groups of friends travelling together and their data suggests higher chance of people that know each other doing stupid things that lead to injuries e.g. pushing mate off a cliff into sea for laughs. It kinda makes sense.
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:35
  
  They don't offer something major for those 99% because of that 1% reckless people?
  - Hybroid on 05/05/2022 - 13:02
    
    Well, yes, if that costs them disproportionately. That's how insurance works, they continuously risk assess and eliminate or reduce risks by excluding things or raising premiums or rejecting policies etc.
    
    You may be overthinking things a bit too much and need to do the same. Risk assess your situation and whether or not you really need to be paying to cover absolutely everything in life.
jjjaar on 05/05/2022 - 04:40

+6

Wouldn’t their travel insurance cover them though?
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:42
  
  Does travel insurance cover your injuries caused by others?
  
  Even if it (or their own health insurance) does, its a protection for themselves but not me. For example, their insurance may pay for their medical bill, but they may still be able to claim from me the excess they pay their insurance company, so where is my protection in this case?
  - fantombloo on 05/05/2022 - 11:16
    
    +1
    
    Your insurance covers you, their insurance covers them. When it's time to determine liability and collect the two insurers will argue between themselves to determine who foots the bill, or if its the same insurer for both then it's a done deal.
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 12:21
  
  And what if they don't get any insurance for themselves?
BillyStm on 05/05/2022 - 05:14

+2

How about you just don't injure your mates in the first place…problem solved!
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:44
  
  This is the answer to every insurance event, just don't get sick, just don't cause car accident…
SF3 on 05/05/2022 - 06:40

If you accidentally injure your mates who are travelling with you, your travel insurance won't cover them

Travel alone.

Pretend you don’t know them /s.
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:45
  
  You got humour
Marcsie on 05/05/2022 - 07:30

-1

lol
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:46
  
  dota?
holdenmg on 05/05/2022 - 07:46

+3

Makes the Chainsaw Juggling Duo on Tour even more exciting…
"They could both lose everything"
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:47
  
  What else do they expect
Carmen Sandiego on 05/05/2022 - 09:01
…where do I even begin?

Friends should have their own Insurance

Get friends who won't sue you?

Don't engage in activities that end up in major injuries
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:48
  
  "Should", "Won't", "Don't", 'nuff said
JimmyF on 05/05/2022 - 09:10

If you accidentally injure your mates who are travelling with you, your travel insurance won't cover them

Your friends travel insurance will cover them though
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:50
  
  My question https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/12089295/redir
  - JimmyF on 05/05/2022 - 12:31
    
    Not the question you first asked…..
    
    Does travel insurance cover your injuries caused by others?
    
    Yes your travel insurance covers your injuries (or the people listed on the policy injuries), not random people.
    - justwii on 05/05/2022 - 15:07
      
      Yes but I also concern about the second part of my reply there. Medical cost may be covered, but there can still be other liabilities like loss of income that I may be held liable for. The protection against those is my major concern.
      - JimmyF on 05/05/2022 - 16:42
        
        +2
        
        @justwii: It can't be more clear. Your travel insurance only covers the people listed on the policy, no one else. The other parties travel insurance will cover them and and other loss like income etc.
        
        justwii on 05/05/2022 - 17:33
        
        @JimmyF: Not sure if we are talking about the same thing here. Allow me to be more clear:
        
        if I have travel insurance, I cause injuries to others (some 3rd party not my mates), my travel insurance covers their loss (on behalf of me, my liability)
        if I have travel insurance, I cause injuries to my mates (those who travel with me), my travel insurance won't cover their loss, then:
        
        if my mates have travel insurance, their travel insurance covers their loss
        
        if my mates don't have travel insurance, I am liable to their loss (medical bills, loss of income, etc.)
        
        I am not protected by my travel insurance for the last point here
        
        JimmyF on 05/05/2022 - 18:54
        
        -1
        
        @justwii:
        
        if I have travel insurance, I cause injuries to others (some 3rd party not my mates), my travel insurance covers their loss (on behalf of me, my liability)
        
        Your travel insurance will only cover those listed on your policy. No one else, no 3rd parties etc.
        
        if I have travel insurance, I cause injuries to my mates (those who travel with me), my travel insurance won't cover their loss, then:
        
        Correct, Your travel insurance will only cover those listed on your policy. No one else.
        
        if my mates have travel insurance, their travel insurance covers their loss
        
        Correct
        
        if my mates don't have travel insurance, I am liable to their loss (medical bills, loss of income, etc.)
        
        You may be liable, but your travel insurance won't be paying.
        
        I mean how about you just don't hurt your 'mates'. You seem to be pretty set on doing harm to them on this trip, which is a really strange viewpoint to be having.
        
        justwii on 05/05/2022 - 22:36
        
        -1
        
        @JimmyF: Hell yeah! "how about you just don't hurt your 'mates'" is exactly what I was looking for, the power to put away any accident!
        
        JimmyF on 05/05/2022 - 22:53
        
        @justwii: What are you planning on doing that you're certainly to do damage to them that is YOUR fault?
        
        justwii on 06/05/2022 - 11:37
        
        -1
        
        @JimmyF: Seems like you are not that type of person who gets PREPARED, you only concern about things you absolutely sure.
        
        JimmyF on 06/05/2022 - 13:20
        
        -1
        
        @justwii: Not at all, I have travel insurance when I travel. I also don't go out of my way to PLAN to hurt people like you seem to be doing. If we as a group do something and we all get hurt, then we are all covered by our insurances.
        
        Still love to know what you are PREPARING to do to your mates on holidays.
        
        justwii on 06/05/2022 - 14:26
        
        -1
        
        @JimmyF: Simple, I just get PREPARED that accident can happen and am looking for the right insurance out there to protect myself from accident.
        
        JimmyF on 06/05/2022 - 15:04
        
        -1
        
        @justwii: Sounds like you are PREPARING to hurt someone to me….. As I said, give me a example of what you are trying to cover? No insurance company is going to cover you if you push your 'mate' off a cliff and they hurt themselves. But if you you want to go hiking and they fall off by themselves, then that isn't on you, but on them and their insurance.
        
        justwii on 06/05/2022 - 16:22
        
        -1
        
        @JimmyF: My ego is not as enormous as yours to believe one can think of how an accident can play out.
        
        JimmyF on 06/05/2022 - 19:23
        
        -1
        
        @justwii: hahaha you're a strange person and glad you're not my 'friend'
Donaldhump on 05/05/2022 - 09:25

i thought mate was banned?
just say they are not you mate just someone you tolerate to lower travel costs
- justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:52
  
  The smart arse term in travel insurance is "travelling party"
justwii on 05/05/2022 - 10:33

Guys, jokes aside, I am quite serious about this.
- holdenmg on 05/05/2022 - 10:52
  
  Why not explore Group Travel Insurance if travelling together.
  Maybe it is included in…
- Donaldhump on 05/05/2022 - 10:56
  
  stop worrying so much, you can't always cover every possible scenario in life. just don;t do anything stupid.
  - justwii on 05/05/2022 - 15:07
    
    Not every but this particular scenario is what I am after
    - JimmyF on 06/05/2022 - 19:24
      
      WHAT scenario!!? You still haven't told us.

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