Will the prices be expected to lower over time as 240hz becomes more normalised and popular for 1440p IPS? Or is it pure hardware pricing, or difficulty in construction and production etc. Obviously it makes sense that 240hz is more expensive than 165hz, 144hz etc, but at least in Australia the gap is enormous.
These are some of the cheapest deals I could find for each:
* 1440p IPS 165hz - $429
* 1440p IPS 240hz - $944
that's 2.2x the price! Any insight would be appreciated :)
They were just random examples I found to display the crazy price gap :), I later found a few even cheaper 165hz monitors with similar specs. Also, your last statement seems crazy! there is an enormous difference from 60-120
Also, your last statement seems crazy! there is an enormous difference from 60-120
They said -
Most
not the same model/feature set
He's comparing the cheapest of each type
comparing discounted prices
Discounted price usually is about just above or the same as the "purchase price" for stores, I don't think anything wrong by comparing discounted price.
Compare like-to-like of the same model and specs aside from framerate.
how about this XB273UGS @ 2k165hz vs this XB273UGX @ 2k270hzMost can't see a difference from 60 to 120
How many individual example to you have to use the word "most"?
Most can't see a difference from 60 to 120
Go to Apple Store, check the difference between iPad Pro vs iPad, or iPhone 13 vs iPhone 13 Pro, you don't need to spend a cent to check what difference does it have moving from 60 to 120.
It'll remain niche for Esports
Does this mean you agree 120+hz make a difference for Esports?
kids that think it automatically makes them a better gamer.
Using 120+Hz will make one a better gamer than when he only have a 60Hz monitor, though a noobie with 120+Hz is only a better noobie, he won't instantly be a pro.
Its just about the prices that early adopters are willing to pay. Sometimes new tech is produced in lower volumes with more defects so costs can be higher at the start whilst they iron out manufacturing bugs.
Prices will come down over time
I paid $880 dollars for an ASUS 34 inch VA monitor with "only" 100hz refresh rates (I'm still using it), but nowadays a similar product costs half as much. As an example: Xiaomi Mi Curved gaming 34" (144hz, VA) was at one stage, priced at $450 at Kmart. That's nearly half the price of my 100hz LCD.
The prices have gone up again because of inflation and a worldwide chip shortage that's worsened by covid lockdowns, but over time as new technologies come the pre-existing stuff will get a lot cheaper (especially VA as these become less desirable when IPS panels don't cost that much more).
Quantum Dot -OLED will most likely make IPS panels obsolete, probably within 4-5 years.
I think what most people are chasing after is not more hz (as that generally doesn't mean a better gaming experience), but rather, better image quality. The most popular gaming monitors usually have some combination of true HDR, full array local dimming and high color gamut support, as well as fast pixel response times (enabled by OLED), as opposed to insanely high refresh rates. Which explains the popularity of the LG CX OLED Tv for many gamers.
you only really need 240hz if you're playing competitive, you shave a few ms off your reaction time and that's edge
you can easily beat any casual title on a 60hz monitor so not really much point
eye candy is nice and all but its just fluff
whenever i play modern warfare, i have a 4k 60hz panel and I'm usually 1st or 2nd its not hard.
you need to find actual competition, a good indication is player base # and prize pool amounts
also you can reach close to top tier on a 60hz monitor, but most people think buying expensive shit will make them better, so the market sells it to them
are you playing on console or PC? console is a lot easier, half decent PC players will have a field day if they ever played console. i used to play black ops on xbox and came to PC to play black ops 2 and it was a lot easier to get top of scoreboard on xbox than it was on PC
That's true, but in competitive gaming every ms counts!
Volume. Hardly anyone buys a 240hz screen because they're ridiculous overkill unless you're an actual competitive gamer. They also tend to come with other better features as well, the Samsung Odyssey G7 27" 240hz is also QLED and HDR600 while the similar G5 27" 165hz is HDR400 (also only $150 between the two, although the G7 is curved).
Anyone buying a 240hz 1440p screen also is dropping at least a couple of grand on a GPU and buying a very high end CPU, what's an extra few hundred on a monitor?
They're not the same model/feature set and you're comparing discounted prices. Basically Apples to Oranges.
Compare like-to-like of the same model and specs aside from framerate.
Don't think 240 Hz is going to become normalised. Most can't see a difference from 60 to 120. It'll remain niche for Esports and kids that think it automatically makes them a better gamer.