Marmot Trestles 30 Kid's Sleeping Bag $44.61 Delivered @ Amazon AU

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Ljamesorion on 17/04/2022 - 07:48 amazon.com.au (550 clicks)
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I've started taking my kids on overnight hikes and was looking for lightweight sleeping bags they could carry with decent temperature ratings and after much research discovered the Marmot Trestles 30. It weights 1080 grams, compresses down to just over 8 litres, and has a comfort rating of -1c. It suits kids smaller than 5ft/152cm. Reviews online are quite good. Some on Amazon complain about it not being warm enough, but it appears that the reviews are mixed up with reviews for a 40 degree f version.

I paid over $50 for this a couple of weeks back. I paired this with a Roman Airtrail R2.5 Self Inflating Mat - $29 delivered @ Fishing Tackle Shop and feel confident enough to use it for overnight hikes year round around most of the country. We plan on using it for a few hikes in Tas over the next month or so, as well as a couple this Winter where we'll be staying in huts.

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  dust on 17/04/2022 - 07:59

  How old are the kids? Are they carrying their own rucksacks?

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    ShipShapeRC on 17/04/2022 - 08:59

    +2

    I started my kids carrying overnight packs from about 8. Keep total pack weight under 20% of kids weight for short hikes. I took my 11 year old on an 800km hike and I kept it around 10% for him on that - but looooong treks are a different game all together. Basically, you will need to keep it all as light as you can and your pack will go up for the excess. Do training hikes with the pack actually loaded before hand too. Build your kid up to it, especially if they have covid-induced-lack-of-fitness.

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      XeKayeM on 17/04/2022 - 09:43

      +1

      wait, you took your 11 year old on an 800km hike? Isn't that cruelty? would have taken months.

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        jamesorion on 17/04/2022 - 10:24

        Kids tend to be surprisingly good at hiking provided you don't make them carry too much. A few times I've been really struggling on a long ascent and one of my seven year olds will be walking beside me talking nonstop. When my seven year olds were four they were doing walks like the dove lake circuit at Cradle Mountain and the walk to Wineglass Bay and back which was a challenge for them, but they managed with a bit of encouragement. I imagine by time they are 11 we will be doing trails like the Larapinta or if we had the time and they were willing the Bibbulmun is on our bucket list.

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        ShipShapeRC on 17/04/2022 - 16:13

        +1

        Took 40 days, we started in Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port in southern France and hiked over the Pyrenes into Spain and right across Northern Spain to Santiago de Compostela. The trail has existed since 821.a.d. called the Camino de Santiago. His pack was only about 6-7kg. He got his first blister coming into Santiago just 2km short of the finish line. If you don't know the hike, I made a short explainer video on it https://youtu.be/pZpyOQYeNYc

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      jamesorion on 17/04/2022 - 10:51

      This is great advice. I keep them around 12-15% at the moment, but as they get stronger I'll increase to around 20%. I just try to balance me not having to carry all of their stuff and it still being enjoyable for them. For training hikes I usually load them up with towels to get to the goal weight, and a few times when they've been struggling it's been easy to take some out and put them in my pack. I think for anybody new to hiking, not just kids, it's useful to do plenty of training hikes as well. My first real hike was a multiday one and I had no experience and was carrying over 30kg. I had no lightweight gear and was afraid of not bringing enough food, lol. The second and third day were a real struggle.

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        ShipShapeRC on 17/04/2022 - 16:15

        Dude 30kg, what did you carry tins of food and 6 person dome tent - sheesh! I do multiday hikes now almost half that.

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    jamesorion on 17/04/2022 - 10:12

    I have an 8 year old girl who has a Macpac Torlesse Junior 30 litre pack and 7 year old twin girls who each have a Deuter Fox 30. On an overnight hike they won't carry much more than the sleeping bag, mat, and water, but they are already relatively experienced at doing 10-15km day hikes carrying 2-3kg. As they get bigger I'll load them up with more.

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      hgaoxhgaox on 17/04/2022 - 16:06

      +1

      I bring my 6yo 8yo and 11yo have a 12km overnight hiking in Wilson’s prom. It is first time hiking for kids. My 6yo almost fall in sleep and tear in eye near the end of hiking first day from telegraph saddle to litter Waterloo bay. She cried and complained for unstoppable walking.I have to hand in hand with her to encourage her complete the trip.

      After we finally arrived the little Waterloo bay, there were a couple of University students volunteers who working for Vic parks.

      My 6yo has been attracted by volunteers, they are play uno card games together. The little 6yo girl fully filled with energy. No more tears and complain.

      Amazing kids

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  corgicorgi on 17/04/2022 - 08:35

  All poly material vs down which is better quality

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    ky0j1n on 17/04/2022 - 08:43

    +2

    It's a trade-off. Down is lighter for the same warmth rating, but more expensive and requires specialty down-safe detergents to clean. If you're car-camping, the advantages of down are pretty minimal. If you're overnight hiking, you may be able to justify the cost of the lighter down bags. Once they're on the ground, only the warmth rating matters, and you can get equivalent warmth ratings for down and polyfill.

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      OzBragain on 17/04/2022 - 08:55

      +2

      My preference is for down but my bag is around 30 years old and I haven't been keeping up with newer fills.

      Keep in mind that down is useless when wet.

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        ShipShapeRC on 17/04/2022 - 09:22

        Newer down has water treatment. I was in my new one last week and it was visibly damp after my mates annex on his roof top tent leaked. Warm as still. My 30 year old down bags have all lost their loft and don't work anywhere near as well as the once did. I reckon they worked great for 10-15 years before any loss. They were store in the compression sacks sometimes, which is not good.

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    ShipShapeRC on 17/04/2022 - 09:20

    +1

    Depends heavily on what activity you are doing. I even have some really light weight tents that are colder to sleep in than heavier ones, so which tent I am using changes the mix. Huts are notoriously cold unless you have a fire going all night. I have slept in my tent inside huts; it's warmer AND keeps spiders, rats etc off you while you sleep. I have been woken more than once with spiders crawling over my face in huts. Car camping is different too, weight is not so much of an issue, however down packs much smaller and I find my 4x4 with wife and kids is pretty darn tight on space - even for an overnight. I prefer down, even though it's more work to maintain. We have about 10 sleeping bags and as many tents. My favorite is my -18C down bag (survival -37), I dont mind unzippering it a bit on warmer nights (like 0 to 5 degrees).

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      corgicorgi on 17/04/2022 - 09:35

      Which sleeping bag do you have for the -18 degrees? I got a custom made down bag from Nepal for like $100 and allows -30 maximum and it’s the best sleeping bag I’ve ever had

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        ShipShapeRC on 18/04/2022 - 17:10

        +1

        It's a sea to summit - crap load more than $100, but so well made.

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      jamesorion on 17/04/2022 - 10:33

      I'm lucky that I do really well in the cold and even in the snow or with the temperature around 0 I'm fine in t-shirt and shorts, provided I stay active. It carries over into the night as well, and even using a 0 degree bag wearing minimal clothing, I need to have it unzipped some at -5 because I get too hot. Having a -18 bag would be a nightmare to me!

      I agree with using a tent inside huts, I tend to as well, depending on how it's constructed. I'm not too worried about the spiders, but yeah keeping the rats off you and your things is a definite bonus.

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  corgicorgi on 17/04/2022 - 09:04

  +1

  I bought one anyway to try. They all seem to be around the same price. The BCF brand wanderer and mountain designs and mountain warehouses. Shouldn’t go wrong with Marmot stuff. I had their jacket for about 10 years and still using it.

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  Farmos on 17/04/2022 - 09:21

  +1

  Says $136 for me

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    Grunef on 17/04/2022 - 09:33

    Me too.

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    corgicorgi on 17/04/2022 - 09:36

    +1

    Oh wow! Sold out already. I just bought one half an hour ago and said in stock. Might be a price error