My First Desktop PC ‘Build’ (or Buy) - Budget $1,500 to $3,000

Hi forum,

tl;dr: laptop died. Want a desktop to replace it.

Use cases:

Multitasking,
Video & image editing,
Video playback,
Some streaming,
Some gaming (mostly old school games, and/or newer games played non-competitively - currently - perhaps scope for future upgrade; I.e. frame rates and such not a huge deal),
Lots of tabs,
Support for my triple-screen display.

Budget: $1.5-$3K

I’ve been using laptops for my entire adult life, usually as a desktop replacement. For the past two years I’ve been using an XPS 17 docked with a WD19TB. This week, the motherboard died. Out of warranty*, Dell has advised a repair technician will contact me when the replacement part is available. Ballpark this week but who knows. Their service is generally poor.

Don’t really want to wait and also was planning to look at a desktop for my next system as I rarely use my laptop away from my desk. In any case I’ll hopefully have a repaired XPS and several other laptops if I need one. So I want a desktop with a bit more grunt. I do photo and some video editing, and often multitask with a browser open/YouTube playing, sometimes my music library or other miscellaneous programs. I also do some old school game modding and would maybe like to play some newer games in the future, but it it’s better to save some coin (I know parts are scarce) now and upgrade later, that’d be fine. Hopefully I could do some future proofing in that department. I even would like to look at streaming my games/making videos.

Not really sure where to start. I think I might be competent enough to build my own once I have the components, but selecting the components - I’m pretty lost. Happy to go prebuilt as well, or maybe a custom builder, though not overly inspired by the reviews of some of the companies that advertise deals here on OzB. Still, open to it.

Ballpark budget is $1.5K, but could spend more. My existing set up makes use of an OzB favourite, the Xiaomi Mi monitor, 1440p (DisplayPort from memory), as well as a basic Lenovo monitor in a portrait config (HDMI). Would be looking to add a 3rd monitor (in lieu of the former docked laptop) at some point - not necessarily straight away, but maybe something 4K with a good overall size - something ‘big’ but not wide. Any suggestions on that front would be awesome. In short, would need a motherboard/GPU/CPU/RAM capable of running those 3 monitors at a decent frame rate and also handle my multitasking. Too much to ask? :P

Any help would be amazing. Even point me in a good direction to read/learn. Unfortunately I’m in a crap position without the XPS available for my work, which I can put off short term but not for very long, and I don’t rely on Dell.

*In the future, on any tech/PCs/phones, etc., I’m ALWAYS going to spend the extra money on extended service/repairs warranties. I’ve had that many bad experiences/bad luck in recent years.

Comments

  • +4

    TechFast and BPC prebuilts are a great starting point. They generally cost less for a complete working system than buying your own and building; yes, the market is weird right now. Do note that lead times can be a significant issue however.

    I’m ALWAYS going to spend the extra money on extended service/repairs warranties

    Don't make that promise. Save the cash and replace the PC parts that you need to yourself where possible (obviously a laptop might be a different scenario). That $300 you save is generally best put towards a new system or component if/when it dies later.

    • +1

      Thanks switchblade. Yeah the lead time is a big concern with TechFast and BPC, more so than anything else about them. I’ll have a look at their recent deals and keep an eye out for others, though.

      Fair point about the warranties. Makes sense for a PC which I can repair. Not so much for laptops and phones, which are what I’ve had issues with. Food for thought.

    • +2

      I've shied away from these only because they are out of state and thus would need to ship the PC back and forth for warranty claims, though I guess you may need to do that with dell etc anyway.

    • So building a gaming desktop is cheaper than buying a pre-build gaming desktop?
      Is it easy to replace the motherboard if it is out-of-date?

  • +1

    1.5k to 3k is a pretty big range.

    If your budget is 3k it will be a much more powerful pc than a 1.5k pc would be.

    Maybe think about that for abit, 4k would pretty much get you a top tier pc that would last 3-5 years.

    I always extend warranty on dell laptops, they almost always have heat problems that cause multiple issues, and the motherboard dies on em way more often than they should.
    Out of 5 dell notebooks I've had 6 motherboard replacements in 10 years.

  • +6

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $499.00 @ Amazon Australia
    CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler $75.00 @ Austin Computers
    Motherboard MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $195.00 @ MSY Technology
    Memory Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $136.00 @ Amazon Australia
    Storage Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $289.00 @ BPC Technology
    Case Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case $159.00 @ PCCaseGear
    Power Supply NZXT C 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $183.79 @ Amazon Australia
    Monitor Xiaomi Mi 34.0" 3440x1440 144 Hz Monitor Purchased For $0.00
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $1536.79
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-03-31 11:27 AEDT+1100

    If you were to build it yourself, this is I think a rough guide for where I'd put the first $1,500. This does not include a video gard, so you'd have whatever amount you were comfortable spending over $1,500 to get a video card. You can get something similar pre-built but I think the main drawback for those is you don't get as many nice 'quality of life' parts. E.g. I picked out a very quiet, fully modular PSU and a slightly smaller case size. The RGB parts were cheaper than their non-RGB equivalent.

  • Merged from Opinions/Critiques on My Planned Build - Budget $3000

    Hi everyone,

    It's been a steep learning curve for me since my laptop died 2 weeks ago and I decided to replace it with a desktop personal build. Thank you to those who gave suggestions in my earlier thread! Choosing the parts has been a challenge, and some elements just have overwhelming amounts of choice. I may be going overkill for my immediate needs, but I'd rather spend a bit extra and future-proof, as well as something that performances awesomely.

    Here's what I've come up with. Still not very sure on most things.

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X [3.8GHz ;8-Core] $495.00
    CPU Cooler Cooler Master MasterAir MA620M [57.3; CFM] $89.00
    Thermal Compound TBA.
    Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS Ultra [ATX; AM4; Wi-Fi 6] $399.00
    Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64GB [2x32GB; DDR4-3200; CL16] $399.00
    Storage 1 or 2 NVMe sticks from my laptop, for starters; might later add another and/or some 2.5 or 3.5 drives Already owned
    Video Card Asus Radeon RX 6700 XT ROG Strix Gaming OC [12GB] $899.00
    Case NZXT H510 Flow [ATX; Mid Tower] $109.00
    Case Fans TBA. Definitely want at least 2; have heard stock fans are no good.
    Power Supply Corsair RM 2021 750W [80+ Gold; Fully Modular; ATX] $135.00
    Sound Card No idea if I need one! Would love opinions. Motherboard likely sufficient.
    Operating System Windows 10 Already owned
    Monitor 1 Xiaomi Mi 34.0" Already owned
    Monitor 2 Lenovo ThinkVision S24e-10 23.8" Already owned
    Monitor 3 Gigabyte M28U 28.0" [4K; 144Hz] Not owned; may purchase in the future as a third monitor
    Keyboard Corsair K57 RGB Wireless Gaming Already owned
    Mouse Logitech MX Vertical Advanced Ergonomic Already owned
    Running Total $2525.00

    Fairly happy with my choices for CPU and Motherboard; latter might be overkill but I like all the features it has for possible upgrades. Was initially looking at a 3070 but decided on the 6700 based on the extra VRAM, because I don't want to have to upgrade for a few years. Memory is a bit overkill as well, but happy to splurge on it. :P

    Not so sure about my CPU cooler. Obviously it's an aesthetic choice first and foremost. My priorities though are good cooling and quiet operation so not sure how it will perform. I don't intend to do any overclocking on this PC at all. Just want to run everything to spec, fairly coolly and quietly. Open to suggestions.

    For the case I prefer the idea of airflow as opposed to a solid front panel, whether it be glass or metal. The H510 Flow (in white) looks great IMO but I've heard from Gamers Nexus & LTT that the stock fans are insufficient, hence I'd like to replace them or at least add 2 more, if anyone has any suggestions! The other cases I mostly liked the look of were all Fractal Design: Meshify S2, Meshify 2 or Meshify 2 Compact. I'll look at a few more reviews.

    Power supply: Again, sooo many choices overwhelmed me. Heard that 15-20% headroom is wise, so 750W should be more than enough - I'm happy with that. Less sure whether there's better options for the price.

    I like listening to music but I'm not an audiophile by any means. Would anyone recommend getting a sound card? Haha. Or is my motherboard's capabilities more than enough.

    I've gone from having basically no idea 2 weeks ago to cramming a lot of info into my brain as I want to get this sorted ASAP. Hence, I'm worried I've overlooked and/or overthought things and hence I've come here!

    • +2

      First thing I would do is check out PC Builder on YouTube and watch a bunch of his stuff.
      https://youtube.com/c/PCBuilderChannel

      Any reason for going AMD (both CPU and GPU)?

      Another channel you might want to check out is gamers nexus (check for best/recommended cases and coolers 2021).

      Edit: I see you have mentioned gamers nexus!

      Also, check the PSU Tier List to make sure you get a solid PSU

      • +1

        Thanks Prickles! Will check PC Builder out as I get ready for the build and will definitely check out that tier list!

        Believe it or not I generally was not super interested in AMD before I began researching this build. I good friend of mine is Team Red and that may have influenced me a bit. The CPU was one of the first things I picked and honestly I don't remember what my considerations were (feel like I've been cramming for a high school exam lol). As for the GPU I liked the idea of a 3070 as I said, but as it only had the 8GB of VRAM, I decided to go with the 6700XT which is pretty cheap on Mwave right now. While the 3070 is probably the better card, this price chart from Hardware Unboxed was pretty influential in my choice of the 6700XT. Still open to opinions though!

      • +2

        30 series cards have come down even further since this video!

        Definitely reconsider the 3070 as well as the 12700K

        • +4

          Hell, save some cash and go 12600K to free up money for the 3070 if you need to - they're roughly equal performance to the 5800X generally.

          I have a 6700XT on a 10600KF in my daughter's PC and they're a great 1440p unit if you don't need RT, but with you going 4K you'd want the 6800XT (what I have with 5600X @ 1440p) or 6900XT from team red or go 3070 or better from team green. In general Navi2 is weaker at 4K and stronger at 1080p, Ampere really gets going at 4K but is weaker at 1080p, and for same tier they're pretty close 1440p if no RT or DLSS.

          With your 4K 144p (future) monitor selection, ideally you want team green

        • 12700K looks good at first glance. Can you tell me the benefit of integrated graphics on the board?

          • +1

            @Frunk: Allows for GPU troubleshooting, as well as can be utilised with video editing (someone correct me if I'm wrong) to speed up encoding.

        • I think I've narrowed down my 3070 choices to the TUF Gaming OC and the Aorus Master, with the latter the front-runner given the extra HDMI slot. It has a funky LCD too but, while cool, that's not really a factor at all. I'll put together a list with this and a 12700K and see how it compares!

    • +2

      Is there any reason you need 64gb of ram ?

      I would cut that in half and upgrade the cpu to a 5900x

      I would also upgrade the psu to a corsair hx model which is currently on special

      https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/power-supplies/atx/67605…

      also maybe sell your screens and get a Gigabyte AORUS FO48U instead, there are currently prices so good its hard not to get one

      • +1

        future proooooooooof bruthhaa 😂😂😂

        • +4

          64gb is not necessary unless you have specific software that requires that specific amount of memory use, future proof isn't really relevant as ddr4 is already superseded by ddr5. In a couple of years you wont even have new motherboards coming out with ddr4 memory capability, exactly the same thing happened when ddr3 was superseded by ddr4.

          • +1

            @garetz: I know, my 32gig rig never use more than ~65% of the memory and that is with multiple desktop sessions with tons of youtube tabs.

          • @garetz: That's a great point I hadn't considered garetz. I didn't fully grasp that DDR4 is on the way out in a sense.

      • +1

        I second this comment. I would also be looking at 3600mhz RAM instead of 3200mhz, as the 5800x and above are already box rated for that memory speed/XMP profile. You could also save a significant amount of money going a top tier b550 board rather than an x570 board. Potentially something like the MSI MAG Tomahawk ($170-$190 if you can find it on sale) which has excellent VRM (better than a fair few x570 boards). Given the voltage requirements of the 5800x and above, choosing a board with good VRM is crucial - VRM Tier List

    • Hurry up and make up your mind.. run the risk of not having a current build

    • -4

      AMD sucks

      • What makes you say that?

    • +3

      Fairly happy with my choices for CPU and Motherboard; latter might be overkill but I like all the features it has for possible upgrades.

      FYI, get a X570S rather than the X570. It's fanless is the only real difference but sometimes has other enhancements (like faster ethernet).

      But AMD isn't a good choice if upgrades matter. It's a dead end in terms of CPUs (next generation will switch everything) where as z690 should support 13th gen Intel chips. Z690 boards generally have 4 m.2 slots (that are all PCIe 4.0, that AMD one you listed is a mix of 3.0 and 4.0), supports PCI-e 5.0 and has 2.5Gb wired LAN (vs 1Gb on the board you listed).

      If upgrades matter, rumour is the next 4090 will need PCIe 5.0 (so it'll probably be a requirement in ~5 years for mainstream GPUs) and you can probably drop in a 13th gen i7 in 3 years or so as a boost. Plus you can avoid 2.5" drives and just keep sticking in more m.2 drives.

    • @Frunk, maybe add some of your planned uses of this machine into this post for context. A short summary from the linked thread?

      I would also question the choice of 64GB RAM - just use a single stick.

  • -2

    I would wait til my budget was $10k, then get the best of everything.

    3090 = $3k
    3970X = $3k
    64gb RAM = $2k
    Motherboard = $1k
    Monitor = $1k

    Everything else just get budget choice and that is a beast $10k machine.

  • Based on the insights shared here (thanks, all!) I've reconsidered going AM4, due to it reaching the end of its run soon. Still not entirely sure, but I'm now looking at parts list based around the 12600K, which is cheaper than the 12700K for not a huge performance hit (a performance hit I probably don't need at the moment anyway), meaning I can sort of spend a bit more on a 3070.

    Type Item Price
    CPU Intel Core i5-12600K [3.7GHz; 10-Core] $419.00
    CPU Cooler Arctic Freezer eSports DUO [White] $89.00
    Thermal Compound TBA.
    Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING [ATX; LGA1700; DDR4; Wi-Fi 6] $521.69
    Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32GB [2x16GB; DDR4-3600; CL18] $215.00
    Storage 1 or 2 NVMe sticks from my laptop, for starters; might later add another and/or some 2.5 or 3.5 drives Already owned
    Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 Aorus Master Rev 2.0 [8GB; LHR] $1099.00
    Case Fractal Design Meshify 2 [ATX; Mid Tower] $219.00
    Case Fans TBA.
    Power Supply Corsair HX Platinum 1000W [80+P FullMod|ATX|180mm] | $249.00
    Operating System Windows 11
    Running Total $3026.69

    The mobo might be overkill, but I found my options for a Z690 board to be a bit limited, and expensive regardless. The Asus Prime and TUF Gaming options are $100-$200 cheaper, but gotta be honest, I prefer the ROG Strix aesthetic and it inspired many of the other white-black selections. MSI MAG Tomahawk and MPG Edge also ticked most boxes. That's all I really came across, though.

    Decided on the larger (than the H510 Flow) case to give me more flexibility, and make the build easier. Not sure about the cooler. Gamers Nexus suggests it's fine for anything below the the 12900K as long as use case is normal (I don't intend any overclocking). Power supply is a whopper but gives me peace of mind. Downgraded the RAM as suggested, reluctantly. :P

    As always, love the feedback. Thanks again!

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