Friend Harrassed and Scomo Bin Stickers Removed in The Night. Liberal-Led Council Threatens Not to Collect Stickered Bins

[Deactivated] on 22/03/2022 - 21:30
Last edited 25/03/2022 - 10:22 by 1 other user

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/676741
Did anybody use the stickers yet? What was the reception?
We live in a conservative area
I was not brave enough to put the stickers on the bin
My family friend was harrassed publicly
Bin sticker raiders peeled off the stickers painstakingly in the middle of the night
She does airbnb and stopped putting them on out of fear
Would this have happened if it was a Coalition supporter sticker?

Liberal-led council threatens not to collect bins with anti-Morrison stickers
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/liberal-led-council-thre…

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  • life is suffering on 22/03/2022 - 21:34
    +91

    wtf is going on in Aus. you cant speak your mind?

      • deme on 22/03/2022 - 21:42
        +51

        This isn't disagreeing:

        My family friend was harrassed publicly Bin sticker raiders peeled off the stickers painstakingly in the middle of the night

        • Clear on 22/03/2022 - 21:50
          +9

          Agreed. Now I'll wait for the downvotes for people disagreeing with my statement that we can speak our own mind. Which in itself is proof since everyone is free to upvote (agree) or downvote (disagree) me.

            • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 07:41
              +10

              @EightImmortals: Sup antivaxxer. The more downvotes I get the more right I am.

              • EightImmortals on 23/03/2022 - 08:41
                +2

                @Clear: Looks like I'm winning!

                • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 09:04
                  +1

                  @EightImmortals:

                  Now I'll wait for the downvotes for people disagreeing with my statement that we can speak our own mind. Which in itself is proof since everyone is free to upvote (agree) or downvote (disagree) me.

                  It's not a case of winning. It's a case of we're free to agree.or disagree with people. To deny that is simply delusional.

                  • EightImmortals on 23/03/2022 - 09:55
                    +7

                    @Clear: But we're not though are we?

                    We can talk about 'some' things that are allowed by government but if we talk about other things then the cops turn up on the doorstep, and they don;t care if you;re a pregnant mum in her jammies or not. And I'm not talking about inciting violence or making bombs kind of stuff either.

                    • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 09:57

                      @EightImmortals: You're referring to a few isolated incidents. That doesn't happen to every single person that disagrees with vaccines does it? No it doesn't. We're not countries like Russia where you'll get whisked away for talking against the invasion.

                      • EightImmortals on 23/03/2022 - 09:59

                        @Clear: I never mentioned forced vaccination, though that is a part of the problem, and the people I was thinking about didn't mention it either? Hard to remember after all the atrocities committed over the last 2 years.

                        • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 10:17
                          +1

                          @EightImmortals: Okay so I'm trying to understand what you're getting at? I'm saying we're free to agree and disagree with other people's opinions. Is this not true?

                          • EightImmortals on 23/03/2022 - 10:22
                            -1

                            @Clear: Depends who the other people are I guess. We can rabbit on all day long here and in other forums on most topics. There was talk last year of introducing legislation to ban criticism of government decisions. I'll see if I can find a link for you.

                            • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 10:24
                              +2

                              @EightImmortals: Free will is not bound to any specific political party. The Greens could be in power and I can still agree or disagree with someone.

                              Pretty sure that legislation didn't pass.

                            • BigBirdy on 23/03/2022 - 10:44
                              +4

                              @EightImmortals:

                              There was talk last year of introducing legislation to ban criticism of government decisions. I'll see if I can find a link for you.

                              Please do

                      • randomvis on 27/03/2022 - 01:46
                        -1

                        @Clear:

                        It only happened to a few people

                        That doesn't fill me with comfort.

                        • Clear on 27/03/2022 - 01:48
                          -1

                          @randomvis: Is that your opinion?

                          • randomvis on 27/03/2022 - 01:58
                            -1

                            @Clear: It should be your opinion as well.

                            It could be you one day.

                            • Clear on 27/03/2022 - 02:10

                              @randomvis: My original point was that people are free to have their own opinions. Glad to see another person who is capable of forming an opinion. Dozens can't.

              • AusGeno on 23/03/2022 - 12:45
                +3

                @Clear: "Upvotes mean I'm right. Also downvotes mean I'm right."

                Classic coping mechanism.

                • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 13:01
                  +5

                  @AusGeno: Nope you've completely missed my point. I'm saying we're free to have our own opinions to agree with and disagree with people. As evidence of that you're free to upvote me if you agree with "we're entitled to have our own opinions" and downvote me if you disagree with "we're entitled to have our own opinions".

                  By upvoting you're expressing your opinion. By downvoting you're expressing your opinion. The fact that people have to even argue that you can't have an opinion is their own opinion itself. How hard is that to comprehend? What's next, people can't even speak?

                  • Jackson on 24/03/2022 - 23:56
                    +1

                    @Clear: We are free until someone in power decides we are not. It was only 2 years ago that journalists at news Ltd and abc were raided for investigating Australian war crimes and increasing powers of the AFP, under the oversight of Dutton ultimately, and Christian Porter. Absolutely nothing happened to those guys, aside from Porter who became too on the nose to continue in politics when it came out his ex committed suicide due to her terrible relationship abuse she suffered from him (according to her)

                    • Clear on 24/03/2022 - 23:57

                      @Jackson: I'm saying someone can have an opinion. That's it.

                      • Jackson on 24/03/2022 - 23:58
                        +1

                        @Clear: Agree, but even that is something that needs to be fought for on a daily basis, just like Ops mate needs to fight for her right to be heard. The day we stop fighting is the day the scum like Dutton will get he better of us

            • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 23/03/2022 - 08:56
              +9

              @EightImmortals: "TyRaNny"

              lmao

                • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 23/03/2022 - 10:13
                  +10

                  @EightImmortals: LMFAO.

                  You were never forced to take the vaccine. This remains the case.

                  Rest of your post is rubbish too.

                  • EightImmortals on 23/03/2022 - 10:15
                    +3

                    @Typical16-bitEnjoyer: Yeah sure champ, it's not 'mandatory' we'll just keep taking away all your rights and freedoms until you comply….but it's not mandatory…and it's 'safe and effective'. Any other government BS mantras you'd like to chant?

                    • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 24/03/2022 - 11:55
                      +3

                      @EightImmortals: What rights and freedoms have you lost "champ"? Can't go to a cinema? Can't go to a restaurant and order a $60 steak?

                      Please tell us more about the tyranny you are experiencing.

                  • cookie2 on 23/03/2022 - 16:45
                    +5

                    @Typical16-bitEnjoyer: I was forced or I'd have no job and face uncertainty about how I would pay my bills. I'm not saying I wouldn't have gotten the vacine or not BUT i was forced.

                    • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 17:27
                      +4

                      @cookie2: You had the option of taking the vaccine and keeping your job or not taking the vaccine and losing your job. They didn't forcefully hold you down.

                      I'd argue it's more essential for some jobs than others. If you were a healthcare worker 110% gotta be vaccinated.

                    • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 24/03/2022 - 11:52
                      +10

                      @cookie2: My previous job required me to possess a DRIVERS LICENCE and show a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I had to give the government my details and give those to my employer. TYRANNNNNY.

                      • Antikythera on 24/03/2022 - 12:17
                        -2

                        @Typical16-bitEnjoyer: its legislated employers cannot discriminate on age.
                        most resume intentionally omit date of birth.

                        applicants / employees are required to show proof of vaccination certificate.

                        vaccination certificates have date of birth on them.

                        • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 24/03/2022 - 13:58
                          +7

                          @Antikythera: What's next?!? I'll need to have a bank account to receive salary? I'll need to report my salary to the government? Where does the MaDnEss EnD?!

                • 2ndeffort on 23/03/2022 - 10:16
                  +23

                  @EightImmortals: Some people have been coddled and protected by western freedoms for so long that their perception of tyranny has devolved to what those genuinely under the heel of tyrant would find laughably funny.

                  Salty Antivaxxers are upset that the combination of the relaxing of public health measures combined with the distraction of the invasion of a sovereign country by an actual tyrant combined with domestic laws that genuinely do fit the description of tyranny such as state banning and blocking of free press, imprisonment of political opponents etc, make their arguments about being forced to wear a facemask or being knocked back for entry to the pub seem ridiculous.

                  • EightImmortals on 23/03/2022 - 10:27
                    -7

                    @2ndeffort: OK, so your argument is basically some tyrants are worse than other tyrants?
                    Is that about it?

                    " state banning and blocking of free press, imprisonment of political opponents etc"

                    So what does Zelensky have to do with us here in Aus? Or is that just another comparative remark?

                    "President Volodymyr Zelensky issued a ban on the activities of major opposition political parties in the country after alleging that they have links with Russia. He also announced the merger of all TV channels in the country in the name of implementing a “unified information policy”, thus creating a government monopoly over the medium. "

                    https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/03/21/opposition-political-…

                    Or were you referring to someone else?

                • smartazz104 on 23/03/2022 - 19:18
                  +2

                  @EightImmortals:

                  and forced them to take a vaccine for a virus with a 98.8% survival rate.

                  Tell that to the dead people. Oh that's right, you weren't personally affected were you, so you don't give a shit.

                  • hothed on 24/03/2022 - 13:27
                    +5

                    @smartazz104: And just to back this up, at approx 1.2% of 26 million people in Australia, is 312,000 deaths.

                    Thats wiping out;
                    * Newcastle; or
                    * Sunshine coast; or
                    * Geelong and Ballarat combined.

      • Forkinhell on 23/03/2022 - 10:19
        +7

        Would this have happened if it was a Labor party supporter sticker?

        They are just as bad.

        It appears that you can have an opinion, as long as you don't voice it.

        • Clear on 23/03/2022 - 10:25

          You're on the money there. It's surprising how many can't see it that. Guarantee most of the neggers will immediately assume I'm pro-morrison.

          • andresampras on 23/03/2022 - 14:08
            +3

            @Clear: if you're not with us, you're against us!

            *rabble rabble rabble

      • frostman on 24/03/2022 - 14:56

        Why anti-Putin?

        For all I know, our ADF have been stationed and/or fought in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria

        As much as I am against Putin's dictator regime, given he was responsible in Syria too… this is the case of the Pot calling the Kettle black

        • Clear on 24/03/2022 - 15:19

          Why not Putin? He's responsible for an invasion of Ukraine. But the West is guilty too, like the invasion of Iraq. We can all put stickers on our bins and people can take offence to them. People can choose to agree or disagree with the stickers.

      • juki on 24/03/2022 - 23:26

        I guess we'll have to settle for Putin the bin (maybe for anti littering ) but its a bit late for Bin Laden.

        I'd say put stickers back on catch the culprit on camera and put a sticker of them removing the sticker

      • Clear on 26/03/2022 - 15:43
        -1

        negative Voted by 59 other users

        59 people and counting who believe it's impossible for people to have opinions. Research into this would be fascinating. Imaging interviewing someone who said "people aren't capable of forming opinions". Would be truly bizzare.

    • cfuse on 23/03/2022 - 08:16
      -1

      We have anti-discrimination legislation with clearly defined and limited exceptions. You can certainly choose to break the law, but you will bear the consequences of that.

    • netjock on 23/03/2022 - 10:53
      +2

      You need to hold the magic coal and then it is time for you to speak. Apparently.

    • gromit on 23/03/2022 - 11:30
      +3

      of course you can, but that doesn't give you the right to put stuff on council property (they are not YOUR bins).

    • Ultimate Gattai on 24/03/2022 - 01:02
      +12

      That's debatable since the LNP tries to shut down and silence any debate, they raided the ABC as soon as they won the last federal election, and they did take Friendly Jordies to court and sent the Anti-Terrorist unit to arrest Christo. It's starting to look real bad here for free speech.

    • frewer on 24/03/2022 - 10:32
      -2

      It's only beginning, since ( 2 years ago ) people ( the public ) allowed the government to dictate who/how/when/why you should/shouldn't lets other into your living room. It's a "consent" into " This is New World Order " said Kerry Chant & Brad Hazzard.

    • Dontdoit on 24/03/2022 - 17:11

      Yes, we must be careful with our thoughts and statements, you think I could go around saying I support what Putin is doing and keep my job? You think I could put a massive white Z on my car in support of Russian troops, and not have the windows of my car smashed?

      I cant say any of that without worse happening to me than stickers being pulled off my bin.

    • ribze1 on 24/03/2022 - 19:41

      Liberal voters hate free speech and democracy obviously.

    • ThithLord on 25/03/2022 - 09:43
      +2

      In a country where this is going on are you so surprised people feel they can shove their conservative views onto everyone?

    • cnrmlj on 25/03/2022 - 13:31

      You can speak your mind. Just do it on your own property rather than public property. It's a pretty simple concept.

    • [Deactivated] on 01/04/2022 - 08:38

      My exact same thought when Covid happened

  • Iwantthebestprice on 22/03/2022 - 21:41
    +15

    The same thing would happen if you put liberal stickers on a bin in a high labour area etc. I’m not sure if your trolling to make it sound like liberals are far right trump supporters but it goes both ways it’s just the area

    • deme on 22/03/2022 - 21:43
      +3

      I’m not sure if your trolling to make it sound like liberals are far right trump supporters

      CTRL-F "trump" finds only your comment. Perhaps a Freudian slip?

      • Iwantthebestprice on 22/03/2022 - 21:44

        Post created 12 mins ago… just give it time I’m sure more will appear ;)

        • deme on 22/03/2022 - 21:45
          +1

          your trolling

          You were accusing OP though.

    • [Deactivated] on 22/03/2022 - 21:48
      +9

      Can you please test your theory :)
      Put some coalition stickers in Newtown
      We need some A/B Testing on this

      • Iwantthebestprice on 22/03/2022 - 21:53
        +10

        Both labour and liberal promotional posters and boards are vandalised it makes the news almost weekly. Even in areas such as Hawthorn which is a very conservative, high liberal area has this happen. Could it possibly be that greens or labour supporters have some anti-semitism folk who spew hatred, of course not, that just wouldn’t be right would it??

      • Iwantthebestprice on 22/03/2022 - 21:53

        I was thinking more Cranbourne or Dandenong area to really test this theory out :P

      • RockyRaccoon on 22/03/2022 - 21:58
        +4

        But these arent stickers by a political party, its by a "charitable" organisation.

        And if you put a sticker up saying Albo is a "mean girl supporter", in Newtown, would that survive.

        Of course we dont know and nobody would be silly enough to try would they? So its not an A/B test as you should well know. Politics isnt B/W its multi shades of grey.

        • [Deactivated] on 23/03/2022 - 07:51

          I don't understand what mean girl supporter means
          Can you explain it?

          • [Deactivated] on 23/03/2022 - 08:14
            -1

            @[Deactivated]: a labour politician named Kimberley Kitching recently died (heart attack), she had accused 3 other labour politicians (Kristina Kenneally, Penny Wong and Katy Gallagher) of bullying and ostracising her, when questioned about this, Anthony's response was to focus on the language used ("mean girls") making it a sexism issue (how convenient) and deflect, thereby avoiding the question entirely:

            https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/anthony-albanese-r…

            No doubt he will change his tune, as usual, once he realises that the popular opinion is that this should be investigated, he is called each way albo for a reason, after all.

            • Krankite on 23/03/2022 - 08:36

              @[Deactivated]: each way albo? never heard that one

              • 82norm on 23/03/2022 - 11:08

                @Krankite: He’s an inner west, latte sipping, fence sitter. Uses his commission home, single parent upbringing as a labour man to sell himself.

                • Krankite on 23/03/2022 - 11:14

                  @82norm: Sure but that doesn't change the fact that I have never heard of "each way albo" before.

                  • Deridas on 23/03/2022 - 11:43
                    +2

                    @Krankite: Just Google "each way albo". There's at least a whole page of results.
                    It's a nickname certain media outlets have given Albanese.
                    You don't have to tell us at least twice that you can't be bothered Googling.

                    • smartazz104 on 23/03/2022 - 19:21
                      +9

                      @Deridas: Certain outlets = Sky "News".

                    • Krankite on 25/03/2022 - 08:55
                      +2

                      @Deridas: Ok I googled it and It's become clear why I haven't heard it 1st page results are 6 for sky news(mix of twitter, facebook youtube etc.), 1 2GB, 1 Adelaide now, 1 spectator and 1 Australian.

                      For the record googling isn't a very good way to see if a nickname is organic or manufactured since you can get a lot of results all coming from a single source as is the case here.

                  • ribze1 on 24/03/2022 - 19:42
                    +2

                    @Krankite: You're obviously not brainwashed by the Murdoch Media, that's a good thing.

            • BigBirdy on 23/03/2022 - 10:55
              +5

              @[Deactivated]: A few weeks ago, the Liberal’s media outlet (aka NewsCorp & Sky) were labelling Brittany Higgins and Grace Tame as mean girls. Now it’s these Labor MPs & senators. Seems a bit of political argybargy between girls is now worse than a rape in a Minister’s office

            • caitsith01 on 23/03/2022 - 12:32
              +19

              @[Deactivated]: Let me give you another version of that:

              The LNP government is getting absolutely smashed in the polls and has been frantically casting around for some sort of scandal or fear campaign to try to reverse that trend. Having failed with "China!" and "Albo has no personality!" and "Albo losing weight is weird!" they had the stroke of good fortune to have the random death of a Labor senator occur. Like vultures they have descended on her corpse to start implying that it is somehow Labor's internal culture that has killed this woman. The only evidence of this is perfectly normal factional brawling about preselection issues that happens in any political party.

              The LNP's right wing media mates have also grabbed hold of Kimberley Kitching's corpse to start parading it around with a series of "Labor is evil" news stories, doing everything they can to make it an election issue rather than, say, the government's massive corruption and incompetence.

              Meanwhile the same LNP and media are studiously ignoring a string of LNP MPs and staffers who have been accused of rape and assault in the last few years, including one who has been charged yesterday in NSW with sex offences against children. They are also strangely quiet about the leader of the Prime Minister's evangelical church facing legal issues.

            • [Deactivated] on 24/03/2022 - 10:17
              -3

              @[Deactivated]: I'm confused. Is Wong a girl?

              • [Deactivated] on 24/03/2022 - 10:33
                -2

                @[Deactivated]: Allegedly

                • ThithLord on 25/03/2022 - 10:08
                  +4

                  @[Deactivated]: Jesus Christ, is that how low you'll stoop? Misgendering a fantastic politician?

                  Grasping at straws, that's the best you've got?

                  You're an embarrassment. Seriously.

                  • [Deactivated] on 25/03/2022 - 11:49

                    @ThithLord: A "fantastic politician" who stands accused of bullying a fellow politician.
                    I seriously thought that Wong was a male until the bullying allegations became known.

                    • ThithLord on 25/03/2022 - 15:44
                      +1

                      @[Deactivated]: "Accused of bullying a fellow politician"

                      Let's not pretend give one iota of a sh!t about that politician, dude. No one is buying it. You don't care about it, you're just another minion who has answered HOW HIGH? when the Murdoch rags have asked you to jump.

                      • [Deactivated] on 26/03/2022 - 02:02
                        -3

                        @ThithLord: Obviously you didn't hear the eulogy given by the deceased politician's husband.
                        He is certainly "buying it". I don't read newspapers.
                        It appears that I have touched a raw nerve with you. Are you related to Mr Wong?

  • RockyRaccoon on 22/03/2022 - 21:42
    +6

    Are you really serious?

    Read the following if you were in ANY Party Political stronghold.

    1. Why bother. You would probably have to have a massive effect to see the area change political allegiances.
    2. You live in the area. Is your political preference more important than living with your neighbours.
    3. The council knows who elects them, so they take actions that will appeal to that group, thats how they get elected.

    Like going to a party where it's obvious they think one way on an issue. You listen, you drop a few comments, then you see they are set in their ways, you keep quiet and enjoy the company.

    Now if you are in a swinging electorate - post on every bin you can find if thats what excites you.

    People spent years and blood a few centuries ago to have secret voting and ballots, and others want you to declare what was a hard fought private right, on your rubbish bin?

    • caitsith01 on 23/03/2022 - 12:34
      +14

      My god that is a terrible attitude.

      Basically, "don't express political/social views because you will rock the boat".

      3 is also a very disturbing attitude, basically embracing corruption by local government.

      • andresampras on 23/03/2022 - 14:20
        +4

        not picking sides here, but some people prefer it when their boats sail smooth.

        there's a reason religion and politics are considered no go zones at (some) dinner parties.

        also some people may hold the view that putting a punny sticker on your wheelie bin is not a useful way to effect change.

        also some people prefer to keep their political opinions to themselves, to avoid being attacked by hardcore party supporters.

        also….

        • caitsith01 on 23/03/2022 - 14:49
          -3

          Right, all of that is personal preference. None of that justifies people who have a different philosophy being victimised for not keeping quiet.

          And you just know that the people doing the victimising would be the first to start up about free speech and how we don't live in communist China…

          • andresampras on 23/03/2022 - 14:53

            @caitsith01: I was responding specifically to your comments about 'terrible attitude' and 'rocking the boat', I didn't say anything in support of the vandals.

            • caitsith01 on 23/03/2022 - 15:01
              -1

              @andresampras: Well, it is a terrible attitude. OP literally suggest that you should "keep quiet" so that you don't annoy people who are going to act aggressively towards anyone they disagree with. Stuff that.

              • andresampras on 23/03/2022 - 15:04

                @caitsith01: different people have different appetites for dealing with different things.

                not everyone is interested in expressing strong political views if there's a high chance of having to deal with aggressive behaviour.

                politics just aren't a focal point for a lot of people, for a variety of reasons.

                it's like if someone passionate about something you don't want to broadcast your views on, comes up to you and accuses you of having a terrible attitude.

                • caitsith01 on 23/03/2022 - 15:10
                  +1

                  @andresampras: I would agree with you if the writer of the comment was speaking for him/herself, but the flavour of the post is that other people should also "keep quiet" for the sake of conformity, which is not a healthy attitude in my view.

    • moo on 23/03/2022 - 16:00

      The council knows who elects them, so they take actions that will appeal to that group, thats how they get elected.

      LOL. Council elections is the biggest farce since humanity. If this is keeping you awake at night, you’d seriously need to find a new hobby. I’d rather watch paint dry…

  • Benoffie on 22/03/2022 - 21:43
    +21

    Problem with having political parties in local government. Should be banned.

      • Benoffie on 22/03/2022 - 21:47
        +9

        What's your point? SA has thankfully avoided the ridiculous infiltration at local level and have even considered amendments to the Act to ban it.

        They ought to stick to waste collection, kerbs and libraries not political grandstanding and virtue signalling…

        • saltypete on 23/03/2022 - 07:57

          Not completely. ACC has had a Coalition voting bloc in it for some time.
          Eg. Much grumpiness about Lab planning Minister, all quiet (apart from blatant parklands development) for the last 4 years. Stand by for more disagreement now back to a Labour gov.

        • 82norm on 23/03/2022 - 11:10
          +1

          110% agree. Our Inner West council in Sydney went Woke, Lbgquti+X-. Stick with mowing the nature strips, pruning trees and fixing potholes.

        • caitsith01 on 23/03/2022 - 12:34

          No we haven't, the ACC has a Liberal/property developer 'party' operating within it.

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