Cheapest it’s ever been according to CamelCamel.
Almost $10 cheaper than current best deal
CamelCamelCamel.
yeah qhy not 40
Won’t pay more than 300
Give it 3 years or so and you should be in luck
It's showing $492.18 including tax and shipping for the heatsink model. Very tempting for the PS5.
I'm so entitled that I want it below $20.
You capitalist scum, pharcyde. How dare you let Amazon, [parcel shipping company], Samsung, the silicon refinery owner, the copper mine owner, the quartz mine owner, the bauxite mine owner, the (neodymium/praseodymium/holmium/terbium) mines' slavemasters, the Australian Border Force, ICE in the US, etc… exploit you for so much of your labour!?
Do you just let anyone seize you by the means of production like that?!
/s
User name checks out.
you do know last year this exact drive was 600 plus dollars right? this is the cheapest it has been for a 7000MBps drive. I know little minds don't understand what speed means but effectively it makes data transfer in big quailites alot quickly like seconds not minutes.
"This ain't some crazy new technology. It's rejigged ram."
Ahh it's so so simple is it, comrade? Then you should have a very viable business model pumping out wafers of NAND flash chips, building NVMe drives around them, and selling them to us at a discount to the prices we currently see here on OzB.
If not you, then surely there's many "older people" with the technical know-how and raw materials access in order to be able to exploit this opportunity and make a killing. Right?
I'm an ozbargain.com.au influencer.. I want this for free and in return, I'll mentioned this product in passing to all the 12 people that's following me.
Edit: 11 now
Cheaper recently via the UK - different item code. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/677699
Still very good.
Any 1tb deals about for the ps5?
Looking for advice. This or Corsair MP600 CORE for $259 ? Used for gaming. Is the extra stability / speeds worth it ?
What is the extra stability?
Cell technology. Samsung is TLC, Corsair is QLC. TLC offers better durability/performance. However, I am asking, does this really matter for say gaming usage when both options seems pretty good and one is a whole lot cheaper.
Nothing about stability….
@AndyC1: stability = resistance to loss in performance. TLC = better performance. Therefore, Samsung offers extra stability over Corsair.
@AndyC1: Performance does not just = data throughput. If you're going to jump on ozb to berate people of over minor language differences maybe you should save your time and do something productive. Everyone else here knows what huntsabargain is asking
Definitely not, the speed difference is almost irrelevant unless you're transferring extremely large files or many smaller files. While it has better nand flash and memory, it's only really relevant if you can utilise it all.
The main difference (imo) is the write endurance which is 400TBW vs 1200TBW. This is again something that's only relevant if you're going to do writing intensive workloads (Professional video editing, Data analysis..) as most consumers write nowhere near that amount. Unless you have some niche and relevant use case, I'd save the $178 and spend it on upgrading another component.
I'd chose the 970 Plus over the MP600 Core. Yes the MP600 Core has better sequentials but it's worse in nearly every other way especially with the Phison E16 which is minorly faster E12. That said the 970 Plus is currently a little dearer and while it has been $270 or something before not sure when it'll be again.
I'm assuming you mean general gaming not the PS5 which requires gen 4
yes for general PC gaming. Isn't the cache controller only for sustained write speeds, which is basically not relevant for playing games once you install them? I would think that read speeds and cost are the only two main factors that matter. LTT seems to think that MP600 core outperforms 970 Plus:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1092033-ssd-tier-list/
The LTT tier list is IMO a little questionable. For example it makes no consideration of size, yet size can actually make quite a big difference to performance since a lower sized drive may not have enough dies be able to saturate the controller. They treat the 870 QVO the same as the EVO. They put the P5 Plus on par with E16 drives which seems far from justified especially for the 2TB variant.
And while you're right for gaming write speeds don't generally1 matter and they're one of the biggest limitations of the MP600 Core; the controller (and I think the QLC flash) affects performances in more way than write speeds. 4k random reads for example. The MP600 Core's big advantage is in sequential reads (and writes to a point) but you can't assume that your gaming experience is mostly going to benefit from sequential reads, especially not if games start to move away from being designed to be read from HDs as may happen now with the new consoles.
I admit it's not something I've read a great deal about, since my use case is different, it won't only be for gaming but for other stuff including as a boot drive so both reads and writes matter. But I was thinking I'd get a E16 TLC instead of a 970 Plus since I thought it was surely better or the same until I looked into it and changed my mind.) And I'd note the reason I'd choose the 970 Plus isn't because of sustained writes, I'm much more concerned about mixed workload performance, 4k read and writes and other things. So I'm not confident in saying the 970 Plus would be better. I live in NZ so can't get the MP600 Core at the price you're looking at anyway. (But have considered it a bit in the past and decided I don't think it matters I wouldn't chose it.)
Assuming the price is more than $15 difference, I'd probably chose the MP600 Core for a pure gaming set-up simply because while the it's possible the 970 Plus is better, it's probably not worth the price difference even if it is. Although I'd also seriously consider the ~$200 PNY 1030 too since while it may be a fair amount worse I'm not convinced you'd notice it a lot of the time compared to other stuff you could spend the $60 on. (The biggest issue is probably being DRAM less IMO.) Mind you, this isn't unique to gaming either, I think a lot of users are going to barely notice the difference between a real low end SSD and a real high end one.
I did post more about performance comparisons on another deal with links but won't link to it since as said I wasn't considering a gaming only set-up so talked quite a bit about whole drive dynamic SLC etc. I mostly piped up here because having looked into IMO it's a mistake to look at the impressive sequential reads or writes and assume it's going to be better unless that's really all you care about (which is unlikely for most people) which is a trap I fell into and I think a lot of people do. I should have realised long ago this was foolish, I've been looking at benchmarks and computer marketing for long enough to know just because one stat is impressive doesn't mean it's better, but still managed to fall into that trap.
(Although the main reason I assumed the E16 was better is I thought with the age of the 970 Plus and with the E16 newer and targeting gen 4 they should be able to compete. It was after realising the E16 was almost likely an overclocked E12 that I began to understand better why. Combined also with stuff like realising why whole drive dynamic SLC is often not a good idea although again that's probably irrelevant for your use case. Also I know there tends to be a lot of hype around Samsung SSDs and thought this was the main reason why the 970 Plus was so popular but looking into it more realised they did seem to be better than a lot of the gen 3 competition.)
Just to show I'm not full of it, you can take a look at Tom's review of the Sabrent Rocket Q4 which is basically the same thing as the MP600 Core (E16 with Micron 96L QLC) unfortunately it's the 4TB variant, and see in the one gaming exclusive test i.e. loading times in one FF scene it did poorly and was slower than the 970 Plus although all were so fast it's irrelevant https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sabrent-rocket-q4-m2-nv… / And if you look at the wider review and also the Anandtech one which had both that 4TB and the 2TB MP600 Core https://www.anandtech.com/show/16577/qlc-pcie-40/2 which doesn't have the 970 Plus but does have the Hynix P31 which is another gen 3 drive: Sometimes the MP600 Core/Sabrent was better but not always, in fact with PC Mark's full test it was worse than the Intel 660p! Writes will come into play here but I doubt it's the only reason. SSD performance is complicated and depends a lot on what you're doing, and manufacturers make different decisions for a whole bunch of reasons including marketing which will affect how drives perform with different workloads.
Semi off-topic but as an example of why I take LTT's rankings with a grain of salt consider 2TB P5 Plus https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/crucial-p5-plus-m2-n… which while it may be worse in some areas than most of the ultra high end consumer gen 4 drives actually had the best loading times for that scene although again all are so close it's irrelevant. (Not sure why these times were different from the earlier ones, I assume a different system.) Maybe more significantly it also had close to the best PC Mark results. The Micron custom controller is maybe not the best, but with the Micron 176L flash IMO it makes no sense to say it's similar to the E16 + Kioxia 96L TLC drives, let alone the E16 + Micron 96L QLC drives. I suspect the maintainers focus too much on simple sequential reads and writes even though in reality for most consumers that's probably only a small part of what makes a difference to them. (Especially given Windows Explorer's current 2GB/s limit.) Combined with the problems you are always going to have when putting stuff into discrete tiers.
Although you should consider the negatives from when you first install the game which I think might last an hour or something, and also if you happen to be writing to the SSD e.g. recordings or games downloading in the background while playing if these might apply to you. ↩
@Nil Einne: Yea that's kind of what I think as well. I think that for gaming any mid tier M.2 NVMe SSD drive with a reasonable baseline (speeds/brand) will probably perform well and any difference will not be noticeable enough to care about when compared against top tier drives. It's not like anyone is going to time their load times to a ms.
If not in a hurry, I'd wait for the rebate closer to EOFY.
All people wanting SSD to be cheaper, aren't we going to see opposite due to that huge NAND contamination?
https://www.techpowerup.com/291899/nand-flash-pricing-set-to…
No one knows. Some people say there may be an increase, but it remains unclear how much this is going to affect things especially since prices were headed downwards again
$426 SN850 2T last week
Hi everyone
I found it ALOT Cheaper here in samsung
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-st…
279.99
That’s USD, and they only ship within US
But it's ALOT cheaper
Sorry i didnt notice that they only ship within us
I paid back in september 2021 $495 delievered for this exact Nvme drive for my Playstation 5, so this is a good price for this drive it works like a champion in my ps5 just make sure you buy a cheap heat sink that fits it and your golden have almost 3tb of ssd storage in the ps5 is so good.
Which heatsink did you buy for it?
this one but I remember paying about 15 bucks for it https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/324492200271
works great.
Thanks, mate.
hows the thermals on this…
does it run hot/warm?
Down to $433.82 now. Good deal!
Is there any way I can tell whether this would work in my Dell XPS 8930? Dell used to have a reputation for incompatibility with some things, I'm not sure if it's still a problem.
Waiting for below 400….