38% off the usual price and IMO a good price for a 65W USB-C charger from a respected brand. Can be used to charge any kind of USB-C device and comes with 2 years warranty.
Not sure how it compares to Ankers quality, but seems pretty hard to beat value wise.
Please note: The USB-C cable is not removable from the brick.
Not the Ozbargain way
It's a power adapter, what support do you need?
Also, that few dollars is a good saving for a $40 item.
My XPS 13 PSU has failed 3 times literally every year… but Dell always sent me a new one via FedEx, the last time was a bit of a struggle but XPS was >3 years old.
@raybies: my refurbished xps lasted for 4 years+ and never had a issue.
and it's been heavily used, quite some time. maybe it's a hit and miss case ?
Yeah the "support" I got buying direct from Dell was for the monitor I ordered to take 90 days to arrive and in that time they offered the same model cheaper.
What a shermozle
If you can document the price difference and delay (eg a screenshot of the cheaper (current price), and provide your order number (which will have the price you paid and delivery status), I don’t imagine that you would have a lot of trouble receiving a refund for the difference in cost.
Dell "support" is basically dogs*** and/or non-existant!
Stupid q, can I use this to charge an Xiaomi phone (USB C)? Or will it actually damage the phone with the higher wattage?
USBC has built in standards that prevent it from damaging your device with too much power. As long as it's a quality USBC (which this Dell one is) you should be fine.
Agreed. Once charged my pixel with a 65w USC from Lenovo and the phone seems to be OK.
I charge my phone most nights with my Lenovo 65w. No troubles at all and kinda prefer it as it doesn't fast charge which isn't needed over night, less heat = longer battery life. But the point of my reply is, it's perfectly fine to do.
@Sfh1975: No, it's 40W but it has proprietary charge technology in it (Huawei) lacking in the Lenovo laptop charger so despite being 65W v 40W, the 40W still charges my phone faster. Generally speaking if I'm not in a hurry to use my phone (ie overnight) I'm happy to slow charge it, even though phones have tech in them now to protect from overcharging, old habits I guess.
@Sfh1975: No worries, and yeah heat is the enemy of all batteries, one reason I don't like to wirelessly charge my phone much. There's some good information on this if you want to look into it further. MrWhosTheBost on Youtube took a look at it about a year ago.
I frequently charge my phone with a 100w charger. No issues at all, power draw is limited to 18w.
The only chargers that you may need to be careful of are chargers which fall outside of the spec, such as the Dell 130w USB-C charger which uses a proprietary tech. Even then, it's probably fine.
I use my Lenovo laptop dock or a separate Lenovo laptop charger all the time to charge my USB-C phones.
Fun fact, the dock even works to duplicate my phone's screen on the monitor!
There is a negotiation phase with usb c (power delivery) charging. The phone will ask the charger what it can do, and then pick the most best option that it wants. Here the Dell charger will offer everything up to 20V/3A and the phone will ask for (I guess!) 9V 2A.
There is a slight complexity with PPS but that gets more fiddly haha.
What if the negotiations fail? War?
On a personal note though, I should probably learn the art of negotiation from USB C. Have never been able to hook up a date!
USB PD chargers are smart enough to do a handshake with the device to negotiate an appropriate charging current.
They discuss how much power the source can support, as well as how much power the device being charged can handle. The standard for USB-C devices without PD is 5V/3A, but the voltage is configurable depending on the device and can go as high as 20V/5A (with an EMCA cable). Then they settle on a compatible rate which both the supply and device support and the charging (or discharging) begins.
Not anymore. They only do elbow shakes due to Covid.
at worst it would end up charging in one of the default lower power modes so may not get quick charging, depending on what they can negotiate.
Your phone dictates the max voltage, and if it matches the charger it will charge at that rate. Otherwise the charger will output at the next available mutually agreed rate. But it will never overcharge.
Your phone dictates the max voltage
Not in a democracy!
Pros: Dell chargers are really well built, and almost always comes with earth pin, so your metal-shelled devices won't shock you when picking it up
Cons: Dell chargers usually don't have 12V or 18V outputs - Only 5V/9V/15V/20V. Some phones need 12V to achieve fastest charging speed (such as iPhone with USB-C cable). Also many new phones support PPS charging (variable voltage). Dell chargers don't support this feature either.
It doesn't mean it won't charge, you just might not get the fastest speed.
P.S. Note the size of the charger - it's a lot bigger than a normal phone charger.
This charger doesn’t have a detachable cable so it’s useless for charging an iPhone anyway.
I have a female to female adapter handy since I actually need to charge my iPhone from time to time. Pity it doesn’t fast charge.
Thank you all for your responses.
Basic electronics,. as long as the charger delivers more amps then its required for the device then its ok, it's when its the other way around you'll have problems, I.e powersupply will burn out example PC powersupply setup,.. but like above mentioned there are standards for USB devices, USB chargers and USB cables, The powersupply won't let devices overload it (basically protecting itself) so one can use a very low wattage powersupply with a high end phone that usually requiresa more powerful powersupply all what will happen the time to charge will be longer,.. the standard voltage for USB starts at 5 volts then goes higher depending on protocols used for example fast or super fast charging etc
Edit: great term used above two devices say mobile phone and charger "handshake" between each other deciding what various voltages, Amps to use while charging,. Volts × Amps = wattage (Power), though no form of handshake happens with PC power supplies, wrong one for your PC you can damage it, same applies with one's DC modems, routers, PVR, if by accident you mix the powersupplies between these devices (if they plug into each other fit) not enough power will damage the piwersupply or even wrong voltages mixing say DC voltages like 3 volts, 5 volts, 9 volts and 12 volts or positive negative the wrong way could damage the device
That's my basic knowledge of electronics 👍😁
You'd assume a laptop charger would be built to have a 100% duty cycle even at 100% load. So being asked by a device to output its Max power wouldn't be an issue.
Usb has standards that negotiate the voltage to be delivered. A device wont ask for more amperage than it can handle, unless you have a thermal Runaway situation Eg. Led lights heating up and asking for more power to maintain its brightness which causes further heating hence more power drawn… Loopty loop (that's why they use constant current psu's)
It won't damage the phone. PD chargers don't actually initiate charging at the highest wattage level, they actually start at the lowest 5V. Then, through negotiation, ramp up to the desire voltage and current level. They will be changes throughout the charging (just like phones). Laptops cannot constantly charge at 65W. Like phones, they do drop to slow charging as the battery is close to fully charged. The fast charging is also mostly at less than 50%.
I have verified this with a USB-C meter and I actually do use a laptop USB-C charger to charge my iPhone and my Android phone from time to time (Apple USB-C charger).
So, it will work with Xiaomi phones. However, laptop chargers generally don't support PPS, only PDO, so if you have one of the newer Xiaomi phones which support PPS, then there won't be PPS support with this charger I reckon.
I think one of the GAN chargers which have recently been on sale on OZbargain offer more flexibility with additional ports and removable USB C Cable.
If you want to trust your expensive usb c electronics with an el cheapo generic Chinese charger….
emotional damage….
electrical damage…
I think you don't get their are well known brands in China
Like their are bad brands in aus
There, not their. Both times.
their are well known brands in China
There's not denying that. Decent chargers still cost more.
I generally look for a review and tear down. I definitely trust original chargers more than any third party chargers and use them for any longer use(eg: at my desk or heavier workloads).
I won't rehash the argument here, but here's a thread with a user's argument for original chargers.
What brand exactly?
Heymix
https://www.amazon.com.au/HEYMIX-Charger-Adapter-Certified-C…
Ilepo
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001604199907.html
Power Rider
https://shopee.tw/PD652CA-65W-3%E5%AD%94-PD%E5%BF%AB%E5%85%8…
Its a generic Chinese charger with a badge slapped on. It might be from the same OEM, it might not, who the hell knows exactly.
man, you get upvotes just for the username!
Thank you Pam.
+1 for the profile pic too
Jesus Christ, that's JSON Bourne.
That JSON Bourne?
You can try to work out the figures in this blurry image.
The best I could find
https://www.acadaptervendor.com/images/65W-Dell-20V-3.25A-HU…
I own one..
Input: 100-240V AC @ 1.7A 50-60Hz
Output: 5V/9V/15V/20V DC @ 3A/3A/3A/3.25A
hope that helps :)
using this charger to charge my docked switch…
Better quality, more flexible and (almost) equally priced.
yeah, Switch's charger is 45W and this one is 65W and i've been using this for a few weeks now…
It looks like a big power brick
The actual powerbrick component is the size of an older Xiaomi 10000mAh powerbank (with 3 x 18650s in it)
Disclosure: I work for Dell EMC not Dell, and definitely am not an official Dell store rep, so I can't help anyone in an official capacity either (sort of like working for Big W but commenting on Woolworths posts)
still looks bulky to me
That's the 90W charger, and it looks bulky next to a latitude laptop (because the recent few generations are not thick)
Same shape but longer
90W charger is 13cm in length
65W charger is 10cm in length
Both are 23mm thick and 68mm wide
I don't have a banana for scale
The 90W charger is slightly shorter but a little thicker than a standard scientific casio calculator
Disclosure: I work for Dell EMC not Dell, and definitely am not an official Dell store rep, so I can't help anyone in an official capacity either (sort of like working for Big W but commenting on Woolworths posts)
Tip. Get the Lenovo 45W probably lighter than this one. There is a 45W travel charger (transformer and plug is one unit and just USBC cable that is very long). I got it for $30.
Dell also produces a 45W charger
I've also seen an even smaller 30W usb-c variant for older XPS laptops
Different use case I suppose, personally I think 65W is a pretty all-rounded charger, but with the lower wattage ones, sometimes the laptops can throw a "slow charger detected" warning (the unlucky colleagues who were allocated a tiny 30W charger with a latitude 7390 experienced this issue)
FYI these chargers (including the detachable power cable) weigh 291grams
I have these for work (and also a personal laptop)
Disclosure: I work for Dell EMC not Dell, and definitely am not an official Dell store rep, so I can't help anyone in an official capacity either (sort of like working for Big W but commenting on Woolworths posts)
Couple of these in our house. Can confirm all USB-C devices charge happily. Runs cool and no noise whatever - we have an early GAN charger which has a low level audible screech.
Just wondering how long this charger is ?
Power cable is 1m how long is the USBC cable part ?
Probably a good meter plus, maybe 1.2 or 1.5 or there abouts.
Just measured mine for you
Flexible cabling from the power brick to the actual USB-C plug is approximately 175cm
The soft part of power cable measures just over 80cm (+5cm to account for the 3 pronged plug into the power brick and the actual wall socket plug)
10cm length for the power brick
Disclosure: I work for Dell EMC not Dell, and definitely am not an official Dell store rep, so I can't help anyone in an official capacity either (sort of like working for Big W but commenting on Woolworths posts)
Just measured mine for you
Thank you!
Welcome!
Disclosure: I work for Dell EMC not Dell, and definitely am not an official Dell store rep, so I can't help anyone in an official capacity either (sort of like working for Big W but commenting on Woolworths posts)
FWIW, these Dell USB-C chargers were amongst the few tested (by users, not Nintendo) to work with the Nintendo Switch Dock back in the day, and while expensive, they were probably the most compact option (at the time, at least).
If this deal had come 5 years ago, I would have bought one for sure! lol :)
Even now, this would probably make a decent option for a Switch travel kit. (I haven't really payed attention to the recent options, as I have about 20 chargers for my Switch already!) Lol
Switch dock takes any 15V PD chargers. The reason most 30W and lower charger doesn’t work because they go up to 12V, or lack of 15V setting.
Many early Apple chargers lack of 15V, while most 3rd party chargers, like Anker’s, provide almost all voltage settings since they have the incentive to be compatible with as many devices as possible.
Yes, I know.
(Switch Dock needs 15V 2.6A = 39W, so 30W chargers won’t work even if they do have the 15V profile. The 15V profile is a requirement, but not sufficient by itself.)
Something interesting for what its worth that I have noticed, all my devices accept all brands of USB C charger, except my Dell laptop. It only seems to work with a Dell brand USB C charger. when using my lenovo USB C charger on the Dell laptop, the keyboard lags out and takes like 20 seconds to register any keystroke. I know this sounds crazy and unrelated but its true!
Would this charge a 2020 Intel MacBook Pro?
Yes
They should make these with 2-3 cable ports
OP please add mwave link too in the post as it's a few dollars cheaper at mwave.
For wonderers, I tried charging my S21 ultra with this 65w charger but that won't enable the superfast charging, only fast charging.
No PPS - will be limited to fast charging at 18w.
Comment please. Why get this instead of a power bank, which'd be probably twice the price but way more flexible in use cases?
This is needed if you have a laptop that requires strict PD charging. The circuit design should be at least decent. The embedded cable is e-marked, rather than most of the cheap USB-C cable without e-marking chip.
It's an overkill if you plan to use it mainly for phones. Powerbank, you still need to charge that powerbank regularly.
Thanks.
Did you really just compare a powerbank to a mains charger?
Pretty sure the obvious answer would be because your running a laptop 24/7 on it, hence the main purpose of the product? It just so happens to be usb c, which makes it more versatile at charging nearly everything and being made by Dell, would be less risky than buying no name gan chargers of the same wattage.
Well most laptops would come with a charger. A power bank can be more mobile. Plus I am assuming most power banks will charge and get charged at the same time.
Not all power banks have pass through. The ones that do won't be charging anywhere near 65w. It takes a heavy toll on batteries.
And every phone comes with a charger (well used to) yet there's a whole market of PD chargers out there, what's your point? People need replacements or extras for other rooms. By your logic, we should all just get powerbanks instead of wall chargers as they're more versatile
@Sfh1975: They are basically two completely different products that achieve the broadly similar purpose (charging your device) in different ways.
If you were to find a powerbank with the exact same power specs (ie. 65W, with the same profiles) then sure, you could use a powerbank instead of a charger. And yes, if the powerbank has power passthrough you could even plug them both in at the same time.
But this charger is probably A LOT smaller than the brick that came with your laptop. It's would DEFINITELY be many many many times smaller than a 65W powerbank with enough juice to extend your laptop uptime by a significant amount. And obviously it would be significantly smaller than carrying BOTH of those items! ie. For portable use, a smaller charger like this might be far preferable.
If you need the flexibility to use your laptop for extended periods without being tethered to a powerpoint, then sure, a powerbank would be a better option for you. But if you are going to have access to a powerpoint, this charger will provide you with unlimited power (uptime).
It's a trade-off between (limited/unlimited) capacity and (limited/unlimited) mobility.
-small charger like this: by far the most compact option, and provides unlimited uptime if you have access to a powerpoint.
-powerbank: provides flexibility to use away from a powerpoint, but gives limited uptime. Space and weight very very high!
-powerbank AND stock powerbrick: flexibility to use tethered to a powerpoint (for unlimited uptime) or not (limited uptime, but rechargeable when you are at a powerpoint). But takes up the most space and weight.
Ideally, if you have significant portable computing needs, you would have both a high capacity powerbank AND a compact charger. You would use one or the other, or both, depending on the situation.
Also, many people leave their bulky power bricks in the office (or at home), and buy a second one for home (or the office) / portable use.
Hope that helps!
Plus I am assuming most power banks will charge and get charged at the same time.
That depends though, most powerbanks can't output 65W PD, they're normally designed for phones and tablets in mind and also when plugged in on both ends (assuming it has 2 x USB-C PD ports then? One for input and one for output? I don't know of any powerbanks that have two PD ports) it would most likely do pass-through charging (it won't charge itself until it detects there are no devices draining power)
A powerbank vs a laptop brick, both have their uses, but it's like comparing a water outlet in a house (connected to municipal water supply) vs large water storage (variable, both in storage capacity, pressure & output)
Also a "big" powerbank is normally 20,000mAh, laptop cells are generally much more. A powerbank's use case is more like an extended battery than a "charger" (sort of like a jerry can for a car)
Disclosure: I work for Dell EMC not Dell, and definitely am not an official Dell store rep, so I can't help anyone in an official capacity either (sort of like working for Big W but commenting on Woolworths posts)
Seems to be available again for those that missed out..
Did anyone buy this from mwave and receive their order? I ordered on 4/2/22 and it's still in "processing"
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/dell-e5-65w-usb-typec-ac-ad…
Cheaper at Mwave with pickup options or $6 shipping.