Was looking at masks with breathing valve, as i need to wear 8 hours staright at work and came across this.
Rechargable Fan will work as valve and other benefits as below:
Reusable facemask with nano-filter technology
Rechargeable fan battery lasts 4 – 8 hours
Form-fitting, hand stitched design
3 adjustable fan speeds to suit your activity
Replaceable PM2.5 nano-filter
Compact, comfortable and ultra lightweight
Swivelling filter compartment
Thanks! I was about to order but I've had issues with many of the Asian made masks in that they feel child size on my big chin lol
If anyone funds a good mask with breathing valve designed for big faces please share!
this is not anywhere near the 'cheap' end of the scale, but they are comfortable, and the valves come with optional blanking plates for when wearing it where non-valved masks are required https://www.airinum.com/products/urban-air-mask-2-0-classic. also has an optional behind the head strap to save the ears. sign up to their newsletter for 15% off, or look for voucher codes on social media etc. Pretty sure I got mine in a 50% off deal from somewhere.
Why are people negging this?
They’re clearly indicating they currently wear a mask when necessary.
2 years.. and you still dont know how the masks work… Gezus..
Yes, merely repeating "masks work", without quantifying what makes actually work and the extent of their efficacy makes it true. You must have clear evidence that your disposable mask you throw on and off and carelessly shove in your pocket for next time makes a notifiable difference with the number of cases.
@[Deactivated]: https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/118/4/e2014564118.full.pdf
inb4 "It's too long. I'm not reading that. This is just one. You need to give me other sources to support this. This is Australia. This isn't an Australian study. This is not a study for Omicron. "
Listen to doctors and medical staff. They've spent decades studying medicine. I haven't. I trust their advice and it's worked out for me so far. How does lying about face masks benefit them? Masks are not for protecting you from the virus. Masks are for protecting others from you if you are a carrier.
Viruses need a membrane to survive. Masks are for stopping your droplets from hitting surfaces and other people.
The only ones that work are tinfoil masks
C'mon mate while non medical grade masks below n95+ are kinda useless if you are working with covid positive patients on a regular basis, if both parties are wearing cloth masks indoors while generally keeping a distance it reduces the chances of transmission rather significantly compared to people wearing no masks. No doubt it went a bit overboard at times with people wanting to be overly cautious but they still have their role to play.
Yea no worries i will be sure to tell all the elderly,disabled and Immunocompromised to just get healthy and to not worry about them anymore lol
People can still take steps to healthy relative to themselves in most cases. Social distancing and getting outside remains the best protection. Wearing a poorly fitted cloth mask is superstitious comfort at best, or dangerous misinformation at worst.
Tell them to take some personal responsibility and shelter in place.
Why should their problem impact everyone else?
Sooner the better, the right amount of government control in our lives, is LESS
Why the negs? Govern me harder, Daddy!
Fear of the unknown
What do you mean "we are done with them"? A lot of people don't want or can't expose themselves to COVID, so masks are absolutely necessary when there is community spread.
Get triple vaccinated, social distance, clean sterile environment, good personal habits, it's enough
I have to travel overseas in the next week, I absolutely cannot contract COVID otherwise I will be forced to cancel my flight. What do you suggest as an alternative to a mask which will allow me to board that plane without being COVID+?
Your response is fine if I was just living my daily life and not worrying whether or not I contract COVID, but for my genuine needs, what do you suggest?
@soundboy5010: Commercial travel you have no choice, it's in the T&C's
Certainly we can relax that now outside of travel
@8200: So wear your mask.
Don't just think about yourself. People out there like me have a requirement not to get COVID (as do those with compromised immune systems, people in high demand/essential jobs such as supply chain workers, medical staff etc…). There is no other alternative. Wear. Your. Mask. It helps everyone, not just protects yourself.
@Ghos7: i lost interest after a few questions. Was a cool game though - pick the line that's unlikely to be the answer and prepare to be surprised. Its almost like the questions were meant to show a specific narrative.
@Ghos7: So instead of me having freedom of movement wearing a slightly uncomfortable face mask, I should just stay at home and 'shelter in place' just so you can not wear a mask? If anything, that's selfish…
Sigh.
@soundboy5010: LOL you're literally on the side that locked people inside and you want to talk about your freedom of movement??
We went down the slippery slope of "safety first", "for the greater good" and "if it saves one life" and it destroyed lives. Get a clue
@Ghos7: I'm not on anyone's side, there is no side to stand on. We are both human, we both don't want to get COVID. I in particular, don't want to get COVID and ruin my plans for a holiday. If wearing a mask means I protect myself and others, then I will wear a mask and I hope you do too.
@Ghos7: Please don't do anything that may require you to take a hospital bed, taking it away from others. Like driving, mountain climbing, strenuous exercise. The problem is you spreading the virus, not others who you may be near. If you're a carrier, you are the selfish prick for not wearing a mask.
@bargainshooter: Do you have the same vitriol for fat people?
How about you let us know your BMI and that of your wife?
While we're at it why don't we allow people to opt out of paying tax for the state medical system? The reality is, you want to force people to pay for you and your health decisions but you want to decide what health decisions others can make. It's not only hypocritical, it's authoritarian.
Everyone who can remember that Feltchy said they don't work in 2020 and is aware that some years before described them as 'paranoid' has been done with masks for a long time.
You're ignoring the fact that early on Covid wasn't thought to be airborne. We had medical professionals in Australia who thought the same thing.
But hey, don't let an out of context quote and time get in the way of your desperate attempt at making a point.
Errr, you might want to check your dates. The mask flip flop was on April 3 and Feltchy was saying three months later that he didn't think covid was airborne. Emails show he was advised multiple RCTs showed they were ineffective.
Keep fellating the approved state scientists and pharma companies while they get seen time and again not following their own rules.
If you think you're such an expert maybe try this quiz and let us know how you go. From a PHD so don't write it off just because you haven't seen this guy on your TV. HONK HONK
@ihfree: LOLOL that's all you have? Looks like you're desperate to avoid the truth.
There are states in there that are right next door to each other, have similar demographics and had different mask wearing and the charts of cases are the same.
That's not good enough for you, you want an example from Australia where there is no control group?
You deserve all the government bullying that you get.
@Ghos7: Do you have any examples more relevant to Australia?
Are there any other metrics that you look at?
eg: Deaths per million:
USA: 2633.47
AU: 127.34
@ihfree: If you had any critical thinking skills you would see the relevance to Australia.
You seem unable to understand the concept of 'with all else equal'. The deaths per million doesn't even come close to isolating the variables 'mask wearing' and 'lockdown'.
I'm sure this sort of nuance doesn't help you because the man on the TV didn't tell you it.
@Ghos7: Fine, I looked into your stupid link a bit more.
Health Feedback have looked into claims by author of the book linked on that site.
Here's their review of the claims by the guy behind your quiz.
Here's the relevant quote which is basically what i've said to you.
Even if the figures supporting the claim are accurate, a lack of context and the cherry-picking of countries used in the comparison lead to misleading conclusions
Good luck to your work colleagues!
I was going to buy one of these with great intentions but then I read/watched some reviews and by the sounds of it it's a huge gimmick
These masks aren’t allowed at school or on planes. You’d probably be better off with normal surgical masks.
i would recommend N95 or equivalent for planes
In Vic masks with unfiltered valves aren’t legal in any situation where a mask has to be worn.
aren’t legal
I doubt you will get arrested for wearing the wrong mask considering how many anti-vaxxers are refusing to wear any mask at all…
@jv: Who are these smart people you speak of in case u haven’t heard it’s voluntary in australia
It’s people choice to not get it or they can get myocarditis
@Dex38313: You're right. We should get vaccinated to reduce our odds of myocarditis.
https://theconversation.com/myocarditis-covid-19-is-a-much-b…
@ihfree: blood clots are also a higher risk with covid compared to AstraZeneca, but let's not allow facts to get in the way of a good conspiracy theory…
@ihfree: The rate of getting it is 27 time more higher then a clean skin no unjabed has ever got Rona
No jab 100% safe from
Adverse reactions and the cold has a 99.98% recovery rate
@Dex38313: Right. If you think it's just a cold, how do you explain the hospitalisations? Why are the unvaccinated overrepresented?
@ihfree: Un vaxed never got it and people in hospital didn’t go in with covid they went for heart attack broken arm car crash n the like
@bargainshooter: At this point I just find the responses interesting. It's also a bit sad how many Australians are so wrapped up in American politics.
I've actually blocked most of the irrational people but Ozbargain's block is quite lite.
Link?
Zelda?
Can you take the fan off to wash it?
Yes
Yep. Wearing a valved mask is a dick move.
I wouldn't naturally assume that is a known fact, but if you know about it and still do it then yep.
2 years ago I wouldn’t have assumed that it was a known fact. Unless someone has had a serious head injury or been in jail without access to information about the pandemic for the last 18 months - I’d struggle to imagine a non shitty circumstance where someone still wouldn’t know that valved masks are problematic.
no serious person believes that most masks do anything to protect people from anything but government bullying.
Ok Mr/Ms my freedom is more important than public health
What are you talking about? There has been a massive spike in kids needing speech therapy because they can't see people's faces. You don't care about that public health??
@Ghos7: This "claim" has been fact checked and proven to be false. For your reference:
https://www.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2U62CO
But then again, freedom of speech right? Even if it's the spewing of lies and misinformation
@Ghos7: All this bullshit about people suffering due to masks. Sure it's hard for some, but give some consideration to people who have to wear them 8 hours a day in shops and a dick like you walks in maskless. No consideration, can't even bother to wear one for 10 minutes out of respect. You'd be the first to wave a white flag in war.
@bargainshooter: Nobody has to wear a mask just like nobody has to get the injection, right? It's all free choice.
Sure they may not be 100% effective but what's your alternative besides stamping your feet at the big bad government?
@hotphil: Do you think that most people in public follow the same mask protocols that surgeons do?
Your 'gotcha' is incredibly low IQ.
@Ghos7: lol, yeah nah my IQ is fine thanks. Certainly enough to wear a mask.
But I'm not sure OzB is really the best place for your trolling tbh. Seems more of a Facebook thing.
@Ghos7: Nah but the idiotic ones designed to provoke someone with higher intelligence than yourself is.
@hotphil: "Do you think that most people in public follow the same mask protocols that surgeons do?"
If that provokes you then you have some anger issues. The answer is very obvious too and invalidates the point you were trying to make.
Life must be difficult for you to navigate. Lucky you have the TV to tell you what to think.
@Ghos7: LOL dude there's no argument. You seem het up about something though. Maybe your mask is too tight, idk.
@hotphil: LOL there is an argument. You're just too dishonest to answer my question because it invalidates the point you were trying to make.
@Ghos7: Here's a review of the claims by the guy behind your quiz.
Even if the figures supporting the claim are accurate, a lack of context and the cherry-picking of countries used in the comparison lead to misleading conclusions
Do you have anything to refute the points made there?
@ihfree: Yes, the article implies that Japan is heavily masked and this contributed to the low number of deaths there (and presumably cases) but the charts from Japan show that immediately after this date the case numbers and deaths skyrocketed. It really invalidates their claim of cherry picking. Maybe they think maybe the population aging by two months was a major contributing factor and not the masking.
The same thing happened in South Korea.
And they really tried to validate their claims by citing the data out of China and some epidemiologists! LOLOLOLOL! I mean are these people even pretending to be serious?
"Furthermore, the graphs cherry-pick countries by excluding those with wide use of face masks but low death rates, like China, South Korea, and Japan."
@Ghos7: If you look at the total cases, especially prior to Omicron, It certainly looks like Korea/Japan did and are doing better than the USA.
Deaths per million: total/last 7 days
Japan 146.71/1.06
Korea 127.41/2.96
USA 2,633.47/40.63
@ihfree: That's why I prefer the examples where the states are right next to each other with similar demographics, climate and treatment regimes. They are going to be the best way to isolate masking as a variable
I don't know if SK and Japan are using remdesivir or not which would have a negative impact on deaths as it is doing in the US. The point of the examples is more that there is no demonstrable benefit to masking when you look at the macro level. Most of the pro-mask points have been trying to convince people that when a mask is perfectly worn it reduces viral transmission. Maybe it works in a perfect lab situation but when you take in all the real world realities of wearing a mask, especially multiple times I'm convinced they are of no benefit.
Have a good night. All the best to you.
yes, should keep away from someone take mask with valve especially with fan.
Second this. To my understanding, the biggest benefit gained from everyone mask wearing is to reduce the chance of infected people spreading it (from exhalation) onto people, surfaces, etc, rather than preventing you from getting it from infected people. Having what looks like an exhalation valve almost defeats the whole point of mask wearing at work (unless the requirement there for mask wearing is solely for non-Covid reasons).
If you find it uncomfortable wearing a mask for an 8-hour shift, consider a cloth mask, alternate brand, or face shield. Healthcare workers wear P2 / N95 masks for their entire shift, including lunch breaks between eating/drinking.
Sources:
Exhalation valves: https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2020/11/new-airflow-vi….
Face shields: https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020…
Masks tested by CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/respirators/testing/NonNIOSH…
Isn't there research and advice that came out lately, saying cloth masks are pretty useless at filtering and preventing covid…..
This is not a cloth mask, there is a whole KN95 later within the fabric. It is thicker than normal. It is so heavy that it hurts my ears.
Gee thats a significant price drop from the early 2020 days.
Word of warning, these masks are quite small, and the fan is quite loud when you have it on max. Its also quite warm unless you have it at said max.