New Electric car hitting the market in the 'green revolution' the world is going though.
I reckon the next car i get will be an EV personally i think the 'cost' of point of sale are simply still to high for me but according to the website it can be charged in less then 4.5min which could solve distance travel issues as more charging stations are increases in population across the country.
nope, rarely take breaks. 2 mins to pee, quick refuel.
just because you like to dawdle and dick around doesn't mean the world should for your beliefs.
BEWARE …
Mercedes EV owner ‘horrified’ new battery will cost him £15,000 – more than the car is worth
Ranjit Singh believed he was doing his bit for the environment when he bought a second-hand Mercedes Benz hybrid car four years ago - thinking its lower CO2 emissions meant it was greener than the alternatives.
However, he was stunned when the battery on the eight-year-old car failed recently and he was quoted £15,000 for a replacement - more than the current value of the car itself.
Ranjit, 63, who lives in the Knighton area of Leicester, bought the vehicle at a Mercedes Benz dealership for £27,000. An avid Mercedes fan, he was convinced he was doing the right thing by choosing a more environmentally-friendly car.
At the time of purchase, the car had done 49,000 miles and worked a treat until this year, he told Leicestershire Live this week.
He says he got the car checked by Mercedes Benz and was told that the battery had come to the end of its life after just eight years of motoring.
The car owner claims he was quoted £15,000 for a battery replacement - excluding labour costs which he was quoted would be roughly around £200 an hour.
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/merce…
So you literally had to go to the other side of the world to find your scare story. I reckon I could find a story of a neglected used Mercedes ICE engine blowing up and needing that sort of money to fix much closer to home.
In fact it indicates how incredibly reliable EVs are - as you'd expect from them having around a tenth of the moving parts and not having a thousand or two explosions a second stressing those moving parts..
Yes the future is EV, a full and proper EV (no hybrids)
However, as you are Trying2SaveABuck get a normal, modern and efficient internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle instead.
The price differential is astronomical and any savings on fuel and (no)servicing are "pre-paid" when buying a spanking brand new EV.
The future is EV but the present is still ICE … I'm very much afraid … can't wait but figures are cold and cruel.
The future is hydrogen. EV is a fad.
Those new fangled internal combustion engines will never replace proven steam technology …
Only by some Miraicle
Hydrogen is too inefficient to create and store. Sure, it’ll be used but a battery vehicle is a lot more energy efficient. Besides, hydrogen vehicles are EVs with a different energy storage system.
Maybe in long haul trucks.
You mean long haul spaceships
The future of EVs is dependent on Australian govt and some cash grab state treasurers.
I dont believe that. If Labor get in I would think they have some EV incentives.
Not that I agree because I'm not a fan of that govt. money going to Tesla or MG etc.
I'm of the opinion that a stamp duty exemption PLUS a 0.5c per km levy is about as good as its going to get.
That's it.
why?
aren't evs competitive? then why waste government money on them.
if you want one, buy it and buy full freight.
frickin leaches
Maybe EVs are your future, but for millions of people across the world, EVs are the present.
It's going to be the same as when the first smart phones came out. The first iPhone came out in 2007, and now dumb phones pretty much don't exist. The transition will likely not be quite as fast, but it'll be similar.
Maybe EVs are your future, but for millions of people across the world, EVs are the present.
And it sucks that this backwater country’s government doesn’t have the balls to tell fossil fuel corporations to shove it and make EVs more attainable here.
We’ve got massive capacity for solar and wind power, but a government that is sticking its head in the sand and telling us that EVs will ruin our weekends.
If they helped promote them we’d be much further along, and getting our city runabouts to eV quicker cleaning up the smog the majority of us breathe. We can still keep an ICE SUV for family weekend trips for the next few years.
How long until EVs are capable of towing caravans around Australia?
Rivian and F150 lightning can do it now. But we don’t get them yet.
Once they are imported it’s not the vehicles stopping a round Aus trip, it’s the fast charge infrastructure. if you travel a suitable distance for your range and stop for a few days you can charge off standard power points overnight (or two nights if the battery is large enough and empty enough). Potentially you could get enough solar panels to charge within a few days too of going really remote.
Not enough infrastructure to support charging caravan towers, and probably won't be for another 10 years.
Not enough fast chargers. Also not enough vehicles available and probably won’t be for at least 5years either.
Unhitching a caravan each time you want to charge is highly inconvenient. There are no drive in chargers as far as I know unless you count the ones in shopping centre carparks.
@THICKnSLOW: we didn’t build service stations s to the current standard straight away either. Chargers will be built to suit the market, including drive past bays so you don’t need to unhitch a caravan.
They need to be able to carry canoes first.
I think people in this thread are forgetting that the EV6 is a larger car than the Tesla Model 3. I know it's not here yet, but you're meant to see it as a Model Y competitor, not a Model 3… So I assume Kia is trying to capture that market where Tesla couldnt bring the Y.
I also think people forget that the Telsa is a software driven car. Everything goes through the screen to keep prices down. It also makes the manufacturing process simpler and creates a smaller parts catalog.
Telsa is also a more desirable and a cooler brand then KIA. Even if the KIA is a nicer place to be and better to own/operate. A more desirable manufacturer needs to match Telsas price/performance, then include a normal car interior. Then it could knock them off their perch.
Might be slightly cheaper to control everything through the screen but touch screen isn’t great if you need to scroll through a couple of options to get to the setting you want. Too much distraction from driving. Needs to be either tactile buttons or voice control. Adding a button near whatever you want to control isn’t a massive cost.
"I need to emergency brake!"
Starts scrolling through the Tesla control panel to find the right setting…
I think KIAs shift to EV is going to kill the Stinger soon.
Stinger wasn’t long for this world anyway. It’s a niche product.
the stinger is dead without the influence of evs… by its own design 2 ton asian perfomrance sedans that do 15lt/100km for $60k isnt a thing here or in the US or anywhere
How about a mild hybrid stinger?
its too late
the cancelled the whole platform, production line whatever… for Kia
they are saving that platform for the Genesis brand
And if it was a similar price it would but it's WAY more expensive. I have a Stinger on order and if the EV6 GT-line AWD was maybe 10% or even 15% more I'd swap my order over to the EV6 in a heartbeat but it'll be over $90k on road, way more than the Stinger at $67k, would takeover a decade to make that cost back in fuel costs.
Heaps better looking than any tesla.
Not sure why arguments against EV are being negged heavily but as an PHEV owner, my opinion is if the price premium is too high it will wipe off the savings that you would desire from having an EV which are getting small and smaller as Govt wants the slice on your savings (2.5c per km VIC ZLEV tax)
This is a fact that people must know.
People who owned PHEV or EV pre 2014 would have got their savings and profit by now. Think of those Leafs or Outlanders back then when they were not that excessively expensive.
I know mine wasn't expensive.
I will always prefer ICE cars. However, I did see an ad for the EV6 the other day and I thought, If I had money to burn for a daily, I would definitely give this a go.
I mean if they ever make a manual electric car, I may completely convert.
f they ever make a manual electric car, I may completely convert.
They barely make any manual cars these days EV or not. So don't hold your breath.
Manual cars are disappearing fast because it’s so much harder to add safety things like effective radar cruise and auto stop-start, things where the engine speed is controlled by the computer which may lead to stalling etc. So called essential safety and fuel consumption reduction features.
They were already starting to disappear before those features were added for the simple fact that a significant number of people don't want manuals. Even some of the people buying them were purely buying them just because they were generally cheaper or the auto was a crappy 4 speed slug box.
If you look at used car prices, it's also clear that even used car buyers for the most part don't want them unless it's a niche car.
Manual gear driven electric cars would be inefficient to use, however, if manufacturers want more people to adopt electric cars then they should consider having Dynamo charging circuit in the form of pedals for drivers and passengers to 'generate charge' as well as exercise in the car.
Unless you're a fat lazy bastard not interested in fitness, of course.
Don't be lazy and get a Flintstone car.
You can make manual electric car. Classic car conversion keeping the gearbox.
I’ll agree I much prefer a manual with a clutch, but at the same time I’d prefer the efficiency of an EV and the reduced servicing and ability to charge at home. Never visit a servo again, except for expensive ice cream.
Anyone that went to the Aus Open get a chance to look inside one of these?
The interior and build quality of the new Sorrento is a huge step up from Kia and I wouldn't be surprised if they do it again with the EV6.
Too expensive. I don't like Tesla and find the model 3 hideous but just can't justify the kia being 10-20k more expensive.
If it wasn't for the global supply issues I'm not sure the EV6 would have looked like the sell out success it is. Not sure if I could even call it a success based on such a limited sales volume either. At least they should have matched the ioniq 5 pricing
I'm sold to model y. Just waiting for pre order
Serious question. When your EV battery does encounter charging problems down the track (I'm guessing 5-10 years minimum?) Will the manufacturer replace them at a reasonable cost?
no
throw it away and get a new one.
Cool just chuck in a eneloop and away you go
The problem with that is that lithium battery life is limited by how many charging cycles it has undergone. So a small battery charged often loses capacity faster than a big battery charged less often. Fully charging and fast charging a lithium battery also decreases its life. Both of which you'd have to do if you were trying to do long trips with a small battery.