Tyre Usage 2021 Audi SQ5

meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 14:27

Could anyone who also has/has had an SQ5 advise on how long their tyres have lasted?

We have a 2021 SQ5 with 15,000km on the clock, original tyres picked up the vehicle with 20km. Spirited driving at times but not anything too crazy.

The dealer has reported Front Tyres-about 3.5-4mm Rear- about 2.5mm, the vehicle is AWD with 700nm of diesel torque which I suspect is part of the problem (fun).

Not too concerned with replacing them as it is a corporate vehicle, but wondering if this is consistent wear with others experiences?

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Comments

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 07/01/2022 - 14:31
    +4

    Spirited driving = rapidly increase in tyre wear.

    • Nugs on 07/01/2022 - 15:06
      +3

      yep, I only got 20k out of a set of 165/70-13 retreads on my 180B SSS (was delivering pizzas back then), fun times
      .

      • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 22:58

        :p should have done tofu with an 86.

  • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 14:31
    +3

    Low profile tyres, sporty compound and heavy vehicle. I would expect 20000km if they are rotated frequently (every 5000km).

    • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 15:33

      That's a lot of rotating. I do it myself on my project cars but even then it's a PITA.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 21:26

        Low profile tyres require more maintenance than ‘regular’ tyres. And if they are fatties then any minor alignment bump or niggle is exacerbated.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 23:01

          Good advice.

  • MS Paint on 07/01/2022 - 14:37
    +5

    Sounds about right. When you are accelerating 2.2t to 100kmh in 5s something has to give.

    Awesome car.

    Keep having fun.

    Also - nice flex 👍

    • meowsers on 18/02/2022 - 09:43
      +2

      Just a random update if anyone is curious.

      Turns out when they did the last recall (axle nut replacement, they didn’t do an alignment, spoke to the dealer and these tyres will be free)

      Recall consequence
      Rear axle misalignment may cause premature or uneven tire wear, increasing the risk of a crash.

      Recall action
      Dealers will inspect the rear axle, adjust the alignment as necessary, and replace any prematurely or unevenly worn tires, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed March 25, 2022.. Audi's number for this recall is 42L5.

      • MS Paint on 18/02/2022 - 09:43

        Awesome

  • thatonethere on 07/01/2022 - 14:45

    What brand/model are the tyres? Some sporty tyres are really soft so they wear like crazy - they grip like crazy too but don't last long.

    • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 15:11

      Pirelli Pzero 255/40/21 RO1

      Not sure if the RO1 is just Audi specific like the TO1 for Tesla

  • Maglia Nera on 07/01/2022 - 14:48
    +1

    Think its a way of the dealer to make some extra $ - although mine were at just over 30K

    Got quoted nearly $3K to replace the 4 that I had on mine at a Sydney Audi dealership

    With COVID lockdown and all decided to wait - thankfully the half price Pirelli's came up, and got 4 new tyres for under $1400 with wheel alignent

    Pays to shop around..

    • MS Paint on 07/01/2022 - 14:57
      +4

      Only muppets get tyres via a dealership. I'm glad you're not a Muppet.

      • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 15:03

        Dealership wanted to rotate and balance them but I had noticed the wear ahead of time so declined as it would not be covered by the service package and what’s the point if they need replacing.

        Dealer wanted $670 per tyre fitted. Did you get the Pirellis with RO1 on the end? I think they have some foam piece in them.

        Will need an alignment etc but all handled through Orix so I’m actually not sure what the tyres cost through the independent shop as I don’t get told. But they have approved the Pirelli RO1s.

        I figured it was reasonable but google seems to have unicorn owners with 20-30k miles on the odometer which is obv like 40k km.

        • MS Paint on 07/01/2022 - 15:11
          +2

          unicorn owners

          Sissy sq5 drivers

          FTFY

  • bdl on 07/01/2022 - 15:19
    +1

    Give jandal = eat tyres

  • SF3 on 07/01/2022 - 15:31

    Spirited driving

    I assume with gripping tyres, would get you less kms, vs a hard compound tyres.

    but not anything too crazy.

    probably last even less kms.

  • phred on 07/01/2022 - 15:39

    That's about normal for an AWD and Pirellis - not a long lasting tyre by any means.
    And only muppets (thanks MS Paint) get wheel alignments done at the dealers. If you have uneven wear on the SAME axle tyres (front and rear wheel tyres) only then should you go to wheel alignment specialist and have the alignment checked (this will be done both for front and rear axles - especially important for AWD vehicles). For such low mileage as yours, mis-alignment could only have happened unless you hit a pothole or a curb etc. In most cases when fitting new tyres an alignment should not be needed - easy money for dealers.

    As for choice of tyre, this site is very informative - https://www.tyrereviews.com

    • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 15:42

      @phred

      Thanks for the site I'll have a look, I've seen reviews on the tyre seller's websites but don't really trust them.

      As far as the wear it's pretty even on both sides.
      There was a recall with the rear axle a while back (5000km) where they changed out the axle nut or subframe nuts etc. I think it's probably unrelated but the wear is predominately rear which makes sense given the rear bias on the AWD.

      https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/multiple-audi-models-r…

      • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 23:28

        At least they have kept the good old quattro on more expensive models than a front biased 'ultra' on the cheaper models.

  • aoeueoa on 07/01/2022 - 15:41

    ouch these tyres are $500 each!

    • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 15:45
      +2

      In before someone tells me to buy a Camry. In our defence also have a Corolla which is the other half's but just sits around. A constant struggle about who drives which car, after being told the SQ5 is exorbitant — guess who drives it the most haha (hint: not me)

      But the tires are dirt cheap for the Toyota. But it's like driving a Valium bottle around.

      • netjock on 07/01/2022 - 22:10

        Drive the SQ5 and you can't even afford laughing gas.

        • meowsers on 08/01/2022 - 11:15
          +1

          Speak for yourself.

    • ribze1 on 09/01/2022 - 16:27

      If you can afford a $100k+ car then shouldn't be an issue, and comes with the territory of owning such a vehicle.

  • brad1-8tsi on 07/01/2022 - 16:06

    Yep, it's around the money.

    It's very much driver, environment & tyre type dependant. I've seen the same tyre on the same car go anywhere from 20k km to 60k km.

  • JDMcarfan on 07/01/2022 - 17:20

    Other than further recommending tyre rotations and other advised actions by others, the fact that you have a few mm of tread should be enough for a further 5-10k km.
    Legal minimum is 1.5mm so you can push it a bit if you were worried about triggering people associated with a novated lease, but if its an all-covered corporate car then bugger it

    • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 17:52

      Well the only reason I was getting a bit worried, due to all the weather we’ve had here it’s been a little skittish at times throwing up the traction light.

      And I don’t mean putting my foot down or anything. Just going over speed humps etc and coming out of them. Even at 15kmh dry. Not sure if this is just an anomaly of the sensors or something though as I can’t actually feel any traction loss.

      • JDMcarfan on 07/01/2022 - 18:24
        +1

        its probably just limiting power based off the conditions to prevent traction loss and hence activation of the TC system (and throwing a light when going so). Sure tyres would help but with the outputs of the car I could see this being a somewhat common thing, esp in 1st/2nd gear.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 19:32

          Even my very underpower MX5 gives off that traction light if I step on the accelerator like a F1 driver, particularly on uneven road.

          When coming off a speed hump, there is a fraction of a second the tyre is not in full contact with the ground.

  • rulz245 on 07/01/2022 - 17:37

    Curious about your occupation to have a SQ5 as a coporate vehicle

    • MS Paint on 07/01/2022 - 17:49

      I'm guessing an accountant with style

      • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 19:19

        Works for Audi or VW? Real estate agent? Site manager? Car dealer?

        Many sales role either supply a car or give an annual expense betwee 5-15k for corporate vehicle.

      • netjock on 07/01/2022 - 22:16

        accountant

        Obviously not a cost accountant or a tax accountant

        • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 23:14
          +2

          Well. Or those dodgy as fc business owner that write it off as a business asset for daily school pickup/dropoff.

          • meowsers on 08/01/2022 - 10:42

            @[Deactivated]:

            Well. Or those dodgy as fc business owner that write it off as a business asset for daily school pickup/dropoff.

            Or those dodgy as fc business owner tradie that write it off as a business asset for daily school pickup/dropoff.

            FTFY

  • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 19:04

    Torque is the tool, driver is the problem for misusing the tool.

    • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 19:19

      Maybe I’m just a tool for enjoying cars.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 19:20
        -2

        Surprise a diesel SQ5 is the weapon of choice. Not very 'enjoyable' for 'spirited' driving by any mean.

        PS. Get a set of Cooper and will last for some time. Went on for 50000km on our old Q7. Managed to get almost 70000km on the old ML350. Both heavy and plenty of torque being a diesel.

        • MS Paint on 07/01/2022 - 19:48
          +2

          Surprise a diesel SQ5 is the weapon of choice. Not very 'enjoyable' for 'spirited' driving by any mean.

          Have you driven one?

        • meowsers on 07/01/2022 - 20:19

          Surprise a diesel SQ5 is the weapon of choice. Not very 'enjoyable' for 'spirited' driving by any mean.

          I would suggest you drive a new one (heck even the old one is okay but new one is the bees knees). It's quite enjoyable and spirited for an easy going daily driver, and gets fantastic fuel economy when on the highway. Around 5.8L/100.

          I've never run tyres for 70,000km on any car. You must be lucky or have a very light touch. Cooper doesn't make the right size for the car, plus the stock rubber (Pirelli) is very soft for performance on reading.

          Both heavy and plenty of torque being a diesel.

          Just as a comparison the ML350 (depending on the year) has around 300nm less torque than the SQ5 at 700nm, and about 100nm more than the Q7.

          • netjock on 07/01/2022 - 22:14

            @meowsers:

            I've never run tyres for 70,000km on any car

            On a set of Bridgestone B340s on a RWD <1T covertible. $70k still got probably 20k'kms on it to go.

            fantastic fuel economy when on the highway. Around 5.8L/100

            Wait until you see Corolla Hybrid Sedan 3.5L/100kms on E10

        • netjock on 07/01/2022 - 22:12

          Drove and Audi TT sport with diesel engine in Germany and it had some serious power. Lucky it was a rental. Wouldn't buy one myself, don't have enough cash in the pockets to want to burn a hole through.

        • bmerigan on 07/01/2022 - 22:19

          Cooper is more off-road than sporty and is not an appropriate tyre for this car.

          • [Deactivated] on 07/01/2022 - 22:54

            @bmerigan: It is a truck regardless what the manufacturer would like to market them. So Cooper is good.

            Whilst I havent driven the SQ5, I have had a similar 'truck' on the same platform running a twin turbo V6 for a weekend when a family member borrowed my sti for a weekend track day. Fast? - kind of, on a straight. Good for spirited driving? - well… Depends on one's expectation. On twisty bends, it cannot hide the inherent design flaw being a heavy car with high centre of gravity. (despite being well regarded as one of the most sportscar like SUV in market by journalist). Most people see flooring at traffic light as 'spirited' driving, I see that as reckless and see it frequent enough in local areas.

            Yes. 65000km (just short of 70000km) on mostly freeway driving without 'spirited' driving.

            That 100nm torque might seem like alot, but wont make much of a big difference on tyre wear when the Q7 being a good few hundred kgs heavier. If anything, the Q7 will wear out tyres quicker. All comes down to how aggressive it is driven, I have managed merely 10000km on a set of S001 on daily drive and 2 short track sessions - despite being a lighter car and 'underpowered'.

  • TruthNuke on 08/01/2022 - 11:46

    Imagine having $120k to buy a car and you get an SUV. Yikes.

    • meowsers on 08/01/2022 - 12:42
      +1

      Yikes indeed. It's a lot of fun. I've noticed you have a dispassion for SUVs. I have 3 of them. 2 of them diesels just pumping more smog in the air and occupying laneways.

  • skillet on 08/01/2022 - 16:29

    SQ5 is a heavy car. Heavy cars wear tyres quick.

  • mini2 on 08/01/2022 - 17:42

    Sounds about right. My other truck weights about the same as yours and was going through P Zero's at a similar pace.

    Solution? Swapped them with less grippy Scorpion Verde and they last forever.

  • meowsers on 18/02/2022 - 09:41
    -1

    Update on this:

    Turns out when they did the last recall (axle nut replacement, they didn’t do an alignment, spoke to the dealer and these tyres will be free)

    Recall consequence
    Rear axle misalignment may cause premature or uneven tire wear, increasing the risk of a crash.

    Recall action
    Dealers will inspect the rear axle, adjust the alignment as necessary, and replace any prematurely or unevenly worn tires, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed March 25, 2022.. Audi's number for this recall is 42L5.

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