I posted the 3050 deal last night but thought this 3060 deal deserved its own post.
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Acer Nitro 5 15.6-Inch i5-11400H/8GB RAM/512GB SSD/RTX3060 6GB Gaming Laptop $1287 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ Harvey Norman
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I have a 1660ti laptop and works decent enough for VR
I'd say so, maybe not high quality?
Going by the list on the below website mentioning some 1660s, 2060 Max-Q models and the link to 'cheap laptops that are VR ready' in the blurb all being 1650/1660, i'd say a 3060, even Max-Q variant, would handle it..
https://www.laptopmag.com/au/articles/vr-ready-laptops
the min specs mention a 970, granted desktop variant, but the 3060 mobile variants would start at about double the power of a 970.
https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-quest-pc-requirements-oculus…
I'm on a 1060 one with no issues…
Heyo, I'm currently running a R9 290 in my PC. In conjunction with a AX200 WiFi 6 card I wirelessly stream PCVR games to my Quest 2 at 66% percent resolution at 72hz. This is a very good experience imo. So if my 8 year old GPU that no longer gets drivers can run VR, it is safe to say that you would be able to run PCVR at a better quality, which is going to be a good enough quality. The Acer Nitro 5 also has the AX200 WiFi 6 chipset, which is very good for PCVR streaming to the Quest. What I do is have the PC running the game be a wireless hotspot and connect the headset to that, and then run ALVR. I've heard that AirLink from the company formerly known as Oculus works well, but alas I cannot run it as my GPU is outdated.
it's a good laptop, 3060 has a moderate TGP in these.
solid upgrade opportunities with 2.5" sata slot and 2 RAM slots and 2 NVMe slots
build is plastic but solid. keyboard is usable
where it gets let down is quality of the screen, and battery life sucks. also cooling is not optimal, gets loud
I thought I could live with a crappy panel, but no, it was bugging me
so I sold mine on, and found a good deal on Razer 17 Pro but that's a different story
Id love to hear the story of the razer 17
there's not much to hear, usual Ozbargain ways
was raking through StaticIce daily to see if there were any deals on Razer Blades (targeting 17's mostly since I know they have best thermals of the bunch, and I love extra screen real estate) and spotted a drop one day $2599 -> $1999 went to check it out and left with it
Interesting about the battery, I find mine much better then my old gaming laptop as it uses igpu unless dad is needed.
yeah before acer I had a Metabox and acer beats Metabox when it comes to battery life
then again razer 17 pro lasts 2.5 times longer than what acer did for me
What model and spec razor 17 pro?
I use mine 80% work with occasional night game on sleep over. I'm comparing work usage battery life if I game I plug in.
@Slippery Fish: yup, same. I only game plugged in, and do work on battery. and battery life of Acer sucks - I hardly get 1.5, sometimes 2 hours out of it
Metabox lasted 1 hour and a bit
Razer does about 5 hours, sometimes longer, depends on what I am doing, and screen brightness
@shabaka: I've had the polar of that. Sitting in bag for days pull it out and use for 2 hours put back with 30-40% left?
@Slippery Fish: YMMV probably, I don't know. maybe different kind of work? mine is a lot of meetings, remote desktop, a bit of office documents etc.
@Slippery Fish: I'll let you know if there's a good deal. a few weeks back there was 17 Pro 165Hz QHD with 3070 for $2400 from Microsoft eBay, that was a good enough deal. but I didn't want QHD
I would advise against getting Blade 15, since thermals are worse than 17. if you prefer 15" Lenovo Legion Pro 16 with 3060 130W is a great option. is probably faster than 2080S Max-Q in mine, and should have a good battery life. but it also had 165Hz QHD so I said pass
I play competitive so I prefer 300Hz FHD
Ah just realised you were the acer refurb guy! After advertising it so much on all the deals I thought you really liked the laptop - usually a crappy screen is something you would notice immediately.
I had to return my 2021 Blade 15 adv from the eBay deal becuase of the fan whine issue - made it unusable (headache generator) without headphones while gaming. Otherwise the thermals were fine even when pushed. I'm interested in trying again though with Blade 17 or 14 inch though since they both don't have the same whine. Which site had the sale on the 17 inch?
hey 👋
yeah I did like the Acer a lot, but you know I had good screens in laptops for a long time, so I just couldn't get used to it. it's still awesome value for money I think
but I essentially increased my budget and was tossing up between Lenovo legion pro and Omen, both with decent power 3060 and good screens, but the Razers attracted me the most for the build quality, and fantastic screens
What is the GPU wattage?
95w
There are 2 Acer Nitro 5 models (AN515-57-55R8 and AN515-57-54ZA) with exactly same spec on HN's web site. Both models are in stock. The latter costs $10 more. Does anyone know the difference?
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/acer-nitro-5-15-6-inch-i5-11…
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/acer-nitro-5-15-6-inch-i5-11…more expensive one has fool's tax included so you don't have to pay it somewhere else
sheer convenience
Oddly enough, the cheaper one mentions Max-Q where as the one for $10 more does not - probably means nothing, unless they have randomly released a lower wattage variant.
Thanks for the reply. I'm confused now. Max-Q is supported by all 3060 laptop GPU. So the more expensive one must support Max-Q as well. I have ordered the cheaper one. I will ask the staff about the difference when I pick it up. If the cheaper one comes with lower TGP, I will get the other one instead. BTW, the cheaper one cannot be found anywhere else.
Variances between the specs listed on HM website for the two models:
- Max speed 4.5Ghz vs 4.6Ghz;
- Cache 12mb vs 24mb;
- Description mentions Max Q for one and not the other.Does Intel have slight variations of the i5-11400H (e.g. ones with faster speeds and higher cache)? I can't seem to find any from my quick search, however, different sources seem to quote different speeds ranging from 4.5Ghz to 4.7Ghz.
Anyone who has bought one like to confirm their specs and model purchased?
Does Intel have slight variations of the i5-11400H (e.g. ones with faster speeds and higher cache)? I can't seem to find any from my quick search, however, different sources seem to quote different speeds ranging from 4.5Ghz to 4.7Ghz.
According to Intel the 11400H should only go up to 4.5GHz with 12MB cache
I have picked up the cheaper model and checked spec using the S/N. It also comes with 95W TGP. So there is no difference from the more expensive one. However, neither of them has Thunderbolt™ 4.
Processor
Processor Manufacturer: Intel®
Processor Type: Core™ i5
Processor Generation: 11th Gen
Processor Model: i5-11400H
Processor Core: Hexa-core (6 Core™)
Processor Speed: 2.70 GHz
Maximum Turbo Speed: 4.50 GHz
Cache: 12 MB
64-bit Processing: YesChipset
Chipset Manufacturer: Intel®
Chipset Model: HM570Memory
Standard Memory: 8 GB
Maximum Memory Supported: 32 GB
Memory Technology: DDR4 SDRAM
Memory Configuration: 1 x 8GB
Number of Total Memory Slots: 2
Memory Card Reader: NoStorage
Total Solid State Drive Capacity: 512 GB
Solid State Drive Interface: PCI Express
Solid State Drive Configuration: 1 x 512GB
Optical Drive Type: NoDisplay & Graphics
Screen Size: 39.6 cm (15.6")
Display Screen Type: LCD
Display Screen Technology: In-plane Switching (IPS) Technology
Display Screen Technology: ComfyView
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Screen Mode: Full HD
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Backlight Technology: LED
HDCP Supported: Yes
Graphics Controller Manufacturer: NVIDIA®
Graphics Controller Model: GeForce® RTX™ 3060
Graphics Memory Capacity: Up to 6 GB
Graphics Memory Technology: GDDR6
Graphics Memory Accessibility: Dedicated
GPU Boost Clock: Up to 1425 MHz
Maximum Graphics Power: Up to 95 WNetwork & Communication
Wireless LAN: Yes
Wireless LAN Manufacturer: Killer
Wireless LAN Model: Wi-Fi 6 AX 1650i
Wireless LAN Standard: IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax
Ethernet Technology: Gigabit Ethernet
Bluetooth: Yes
Bluetooth Standard: Bluetooth 5.2Built-in Devices
Front Camera/Webcam: Yes
Front Camera/Webcam Video Resolution: 1280 x 720
Microphone: Yes
Number of Microphones: 2
Finger Print Reader: No
Speakers: YesInterfaces/Ports
HDMI: Yes
Number of HDMI Outputs: 1
Total Number of USB Ports: 4
Number of USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A Ports: 2
Number of USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A Ports: 1
Number of USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C Ports: 1
USB Type-C: Yes
Network (RJ-45): Yes
Headphone/Microphone Combo Port: YesSoftware
Upgradable Windows OS: Yes
Operating System Platform: Windows
Operating System: Windows 10 Home
Operating System Architecture: 64-bitInput Devices
Keyboard: Yes
Numeric Pad: Yes
Keyboard Backlight: Yes
Keyboard Localization: English
Pointing Device Type: TouchPad
TouchPad Features: Multi-touch GestureBattery Information
Number of Cells: 4-cell
Battery Chemistry: Lithium Ion (Li-Ion)
Battery Energy: 57.50 Wh
Maximum Battery Run Time: 8 HourPower Description
Maximum Power Supply Wattage: 180 WPhysical Characteristics
Colour: Shale Black
Height: 23.90 mm
Width: 363.4 mm
Depth: 255 mm
Weight (Approximate): 2.20 kgHowever, neither of them has Thunderbolt™ 4.
How did you confirm this? 11th gen intel CPUs should support TB4. i5-11400H specs page states:
Intel® Thunderbolt™ 4: Yes
From the user manual. Thunderbolt is only available on AN515-56 and AN517-53. This one is AN515-57.
USB Type-C port (AN515-45/AN515-57/AN517-41/AN517-54)
USB Type-C / Thunderbolt™ 4 port (AN515-56/AN517-53)
@ruanjiangongren: Wow so even the i7-11800H variant doesn't have TB4 either! That's a potential dealbreaker :/
@CVonC: I have a AN515-57 from the deal a few weeks back.
11800H, 16GB, 512GB, 3060 95w.It does indeed have thunderbolt 4 - I used it as an additional video output port for a triple monitor setup.
You can also see the specs here where thunderbolt 4 is listed:
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/AE/content/model/NH.QCCEM.004Worth double checking to make sure the version advertised with 11400H has it on the spec sheet online.
I have a AN515-57 from the deal a few weeks back.
Are you talking about this one? If so shouldn't the model variant be NH.QDGSA.001 which is different to the Acer link?
But regardless, thanks for confirming the triple monitor set up! Are you able to see if g-sync works via USB-C DP? If not no worries!
Worth double checking to make sure the version advertised with 11400H has it on the spec sheet online.
Yeah it looks like unfortunately both the 11400H versions don't have TB4 according to @ruanjiangongren. Such a shame considering 11th gen should support it.
@CVonC: Only the HDMI 2.0 port is connected to the 3060, the USB-c port is connected to the intel graphic. So g-sync is not possible on this laptop as it only works on DP.
@Pewpew2020: Have you tried Type-C charging? According to this review, the Type-C port of AN515-57 does support DP 1.4 but it does NOT support charging, which is part of TB 4 standard. Unfortunately, I don't have a proper Type-C charger to test it.
BTW, the Type-C port directly connects to the Intel GPU.
@ruanjiangongren: i will be testing the laptop for thunderbolt but there is definitely a lightning symbol next to it so i am fairly certain it includes thunderbolt. i opted for the $1297 model as a search of that model i found on other websites referenced thunderbolt 4. i figured for the $10 there's no point risking not having it for the obscure other model that saves $10
EDIT: copy paste comment from another location here as well for clarity
i can open the intel thunderbolt control centre. i won't be able to test it until later today but i am pretty certain mine has thunderbolt. for reference i bought the 54ZA variant, for $1297@peter05: Thanks for the update. There is only a USB (data) symbol beside my Type-C port. It looks like we finally found the difference between the 2 models. I totally agree with you. There is no point losing TB 4 for saving $10. I did ask the shop staff about the difference before I picked up the laptop. He promised that the 2 models are exactly same. I will probably try getting HN to swap it. But I don't expect anything good out of it!
@ruanjiangongren: yeah i did try and ask some sales staff what the differences were and they just referenced the little spec sheet and obviously all those are exactly the same.
if it's the case that it's a difference of thunderbolt vs no thunderbolt, i think for the $10 for future proofing the laptop it's a no brainer. most people probably wouldn't use it but it's just something that's nice to have and guarantees a powerful laptop for many years to come
@ruanjiangongren: My laptop does not support USB-C Charging.
For reference, these laptops need beefy power supplies man.
The 180w supply it comes with doesn't sustain it under heavy gaming. It actually draws down on the battery % even when plugged in.BTW, the Type-C port directly connects to the Intel GPU.
Such a shame especially since the $1297 model supports TB4 (thanks for figuring that out btw). Basically completely rules out gsync over USC-C DP compatibility. Although gsync can run over HDMI 2.1, the Nitro 5 only has HDMI 2 too -_-
@Pewpew2020: Hey mate. Hope you can help me. I have the i7 11800 nitro 5. I can't get USB C to dp working with a hub. Just wondering if you can point me to a link to buy the cable. Is it connected to NVIDIA for you or just the igpu? Thanks
I have returned the $1287 model (AN515-57-55R8) to HN and got the $1297 model (AN515-57-54ZA).
The $1297 model has a Thunderbolt 4 port but it comes with a crap Kingston memory (ACR32D4S2S1ME-8).
The $1287 model has a data only type C port (No Display Port) but it comes with a good Samsung 1Rx8 memory (M471A1K43EB1-CWE).
Thx for confirming differences. That's nice that they let you swap after opening the first item. However, a swap is reasonable considering that the product description on HM's site for the $1,287 item mentions Thunderbolt technology. What magic words did you use to swap it so easily?
I'm curious, could another difference be RTX 3060 Max-Q ($1287) vs Max-P ($1297)? HM's online chat could not advise me of the product difference, however, advised me that the $1297 item is the newer listing of the two. I find it odd that the newer listing has over 10 reviews left by purchasers and the older listing has none.
@unobtanium: The Max-Q reference is the older name for the lower TGP versions. They're no longer referred to in the RTX 30xx series because the power limit is just all over the place depending on what the manufacturer set it to. The Max-Q/P reference is more suitable for the 20xx series as you'd know exactly what the TGP is. Can't see "Max-P" though for the $1297?
Also where does it mention thunderbolt for the $1287 listing?
@CVonC: Apologies, I had another look at the descriptions and it does NOT mention thunderbolt anywhere. My memory deceives me - I thought I did a Ctrl+F / Cmd+F at some stage. Good sleuthing btw.
@unobtanium: Actually I tried mining on both models. No difference at all. Both GPUs runs on 95W and around 35 MH/s (without OC).
I got one of these on the last deal. Rate it. Battery isn't great but I'm not an all day user. You'll want to plug in to game anyway. Make sure you flash the vbios to unlock 95w TGP. Recommend also adding a ram stick so it runs in dual channel.
Recommend a 27" screen, keyboard and mouse, have the 1660ti playing on 1440p apex legends low settings 130fps
I don't understand when people complaint about battery life on gaming laptops. You'd want it plugged in anyway, right? Right?
If you buy a gaming laptop it’s probably because you want one device to do both gaming duties and portable laptop duties. Why buy a gaming laptop if you also need a MacBook Air so you can work through the day.
it's a laptop you know, the word itself implies a sensible person would also want to use it on their lap, to type a couple of emails on the couch, or to browse ozbargain, or to watch a movie
so people do that, and they complain because battery life does suck in these scenarios. also they complain because gaming laptops with solid battery life actually exist, so there's that, too (not in this price segment though)
however it's ozbargain right? everyone should have like 20 smart devices at home (and a drawer full of eneloops, and a drawer full of crap freebies and SD cards), just check between couch pillows, sure there's an Aliexpress tablet you forgot about? just type emails or watch movies on that haha
so yes, don't listen much to "gaming laptop battery life sucks" people, it all depends on use case.
Is this deal worth the extra $300 over the Dell Laptop with the 3050 for sale on ebay?
3050 laptops should be avoided
3060 is much much more efficient and price difference is minimal
Purchased with 7% cash back. Cheers for the info!
miss the 1198 deal
This cpu is 30% better, so theres that.
that's true
i have this laptop. its good for mining. 40-42 mh. no need to flash bios like the $1198 deal (which is a 10400 4 cores 8 threads vs 6 core 12 threads).
This version also has thunderbolt port
buy with shopback 7% discount gift cards.
There is a 1287 one which seems to show max-q. lower power variant?
spec list says 3060 without max q
the spec list isnt accurate. because i bought this since i wanted thunderbolt. the spec list does not say it has thunderbolt but it does on description page.
the description has max q for the 1287 one while the 1297 seems to be just regular 3060.
curious Is your 40-42 mh after MSI afterbuner or native?
Native is 35mh. If plugged with egpu the msi settings do not get u 42 for some reason. Not sure why. Stays at 35.
Purchased - Any links on how to get started with mining will be appreciated :)
please update your post here with the exact variant/model number because you have caused some confusion for other purchasers.
the one linked in this post does NOT include thunderbolt 4
Just bought one for myself and my father setting his up now. Seems very nice.
Hn gepps cross had them in stock on the floor but not sure for how long. We also picked up some really cheap playstation games, theyre going on par with amazon
Hate gerry harvey and so do his staff but hey its a good deal.
Does anyone know of a successful refund method with HN? Looking to refund the 10th gen laptop from previous deal so I can grab this 11 gen.
You are what’s wrong with this world
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Change of Mind
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Can I connect 2 monitors to this? 1 via USB-C other via HDMI?
would love to know if this would work too! otherwise would a docking station be the next best thing?
Is product care (extended warranty) worth it?
Pricing is:
1 year product care is $196
2 years is $379
and 3 years is $549Is mining possible?
+1 would this be any good for mining?
Yeah, it can get around 40MH/s after 95w TGP unlock.
TGP unlock ?
VBIOS needs an update to go from 85W (I think) to 95W. :)
ow or gg price match?
This is cool
Recommend checking to see if your health fund or similar membership groups offer discount..
For example, the NIB rewards website currently offers an increased Black Friday discount rewards for Harvey Norman of 7%, minus 1% for credit card surcharge fee.
Purchasing a $1000 gift card/voucher would cost $939.30, saving $60.70.
Please note that once purchased it may take up to 24hrs to receive said voucher. In past instances, if purchased after hours the voucher would become available the next morning at 09:00-09:30 EST (accessing earlier would show a website error and to wait 24hrs) - may be an issue if you are purchasing an item that has limited or becomes out of stock quickly.
Just to add shopback HN giftcard is 7% cashback right now.
This or wait for a few more days for the supposedly good sales coming up? I can't convince myself to buy an Acer laptop, have heard horror stories on warranty claims and their monitor hinges always seem to break somehow?
I’ve had one for the last 3 years with a gtx 1060 in it and had 0 problems. Pulled it apart myself to upgrade hdd and ram and found they are easy to upgrade and really well built. I’m looking forward to getting this one later on today
Cheers, maybe those were the cheaper everyday ones that friends had issues with.
Yeah that could be the case, my 3 year old one is still in great condition. If this deal wasn't so good I wouldn't be upgrading
Thanks OP, just bought one, typing from it right now and have already done the BIOS update (will plan to switch the RAM out soon too).
Be sure to take advantage of Shopback gift cards for a further 7% off!
Any chance you could run this cmd in an elevated windows command prompt and let me know the output, I want to order some ram for it as well before I buy it, thanks in advance
wmic memorychip get devicelocator, partnumber
Output: Controller1-ChannelA-DIMM0 ACR32D4S2S1ME-8
Already checked it out, it is a 1rx16 stick (crap), so looking to replace it with a kit of 2x 8gb 1rx8 stick
Mine is M471A1K43EB1-CWE which is a 1Rx8 Samsung RAM. So it's not the same…
@ruanjiangongren: Didn't expect there to be variance in the RAM sticks being used, but interesting fine nonetheless.
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is a laptop powered 3060 powerful enough to satisfy the needs of an oculus quest 2 for PCVR duties?