10 Year Lithium non-Removeable Battery & 240 Volt Smoke Alarms are available.
All can be wirelessly connected to each other and a smoke alarm wall mounted controller via an RF Module.
Also available is a Smoke Alarm Controller, which can be mounted on a wall in easy reach.
Qld new rental laws in jan 22 also need to be installed in houses that go up for sale.
1st Jan for Rentals
I think only for new leases, too. I'm not sure if it applies when an existing lease is renewed, or if the date applies to ongoing leases.
@mduncan2: From 1 January 2022, landlords must install interconnected smoke alarms in residential rental properties.
When one goes off, they all go off, giving everyone extra time to escape.
All other dwellings must transition to full compliance by 2027.
Good deal from what I can see. $680 to have 7 Lithium detectors installed by Real Estate agent, $390 from this deal Inc the controller.
Thanks OP.
Any alternatives around this price point?
Quell $89 each from Bunnings not including controller. These smoke detectors are also RF controlled.
Most places you'll pay $200 more to get the same product. Smoke detectors rarely on sale as you need to have them. Only thing is I wish these had 10 year warranty to match the battery instead of only 7 years.
Hi OP, do these have always on green light?
What is the Smoke Alarm Controller for? Is it needed in each home?
Could you please advise under what part of Clause 3.7.5.2 of Volume 2 of BCA 2019 you are allowed to use lithium powered smokes?
Your site states:
To recap, this legislation includes that the smoke alarms :
Powered by the mains electricity supply or a non-removable battery with a 10-year battery life.
But the BCA states:
Under Clause 3.7.5.2:
(c) be powered from the consumer mains source where a consumer mains is supplied to the building.
Negged for adding on the “or a non-removable battery battery with a 10-year battery life”, citing legislation without referring to the actual legislation itself, and confusing people.
I constantly have to deal with this at work with new installs that are not hard wired. It drives me insane having to get people to do the right thing.
Why? Because people hate the look of conduits connecting the smoke to a light mains or the like.
Even when there are hard wired smokes with relay bases providing wireless connectivity, people still don’t want hard wired smokes.
Plus there’s no redundancy with these units. With a normal smoke you have two power sources. If the power goes out you have a battery backup. That’s why it’s called a battery ‘backup’.
With these units there’s just a battery. That’s it.
What’s another reason they have to be hard wired that they don’t really tell you about? It’s people are unlikely to rip smokes off the ceiling when there’s live electricity. Different story with self contained units that people rip off the ceiling because they keep going off ‘because they burnt their toast’ (somethings being burnt but it ain’t toast) and it was too noisy.
Edit. From an A1 Unrestricted Accredited Certifier with 25+ years experience.
They’re likely talking about QLD legislation for existing dwellings which is basically what they’ve outlined. Lithium is fine as a primary singular power source in this instance.
They should be clearer on what legislation they are referencing.
Yes NSW rushed that same bullshit legislation through a few years back as the government wanted to look good and save people after a recent spate of house fires with no smoke alarms which unfortunately caused a number of deaths.
NSW ballsed this up as they took it upon themselves to give the ok to battery smokes without even looking into the requirements of the Building Code of Australia or now known as the National Construction Code.
I agree that any smoke is better than no smoke but do it right.
Seeing the BCA/NCC is Australia wide hence the ‘Australia’ and ‘National’ references, any new install should comply with this requirements.
Yep. And if someone needs to comply with BCA they already know code and have suppliers for suitable products. I doubt they’re hunting OzBargain for deals on smokies to save a pineapple.
Everything is fine. Move along people.
@Rambler If you're an " A1 Unrestricted Accredited Certifier with 25+ years experience" you should be more than capable of looking up the legislation yourself which I posted the link to a few hours ago in a post above.
https://www.qfes.qld.gov.au/prepare/fire/smoke-alarms
Negged because you do not seem to understand that a 10 year Lithium battery is sufficient for existing dwellings and is perfectly safe with yearly testing and alerts to tell you the battery is going flat.
Whatever you think is ok by me buddy.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you make an unsubstantiated comment about someone being “capable of looking up legislation” you really present as an asshat.
It’s dealing with people like you day in day out that makes my job hard.
I’m not here to debate the matter as it’s black and white it’s in legislation I’m citing.
If you have some spare time and I hope you’re capable of doing so, have a look at the BCA/NCC on the Governments Australian Building Codes Board website https://www.abcb.gov.au/.
It may be sufficient or as an absolute bare minimum, but it’s not complying with a Federal building code.
Do you know that residential dwellings (Class 1a) have never been subject to yearly testing nor has there ever been a legal requirement to do so?
You probably didn’t.
So who’s going to test smoke alarms in homes on a yearly basis?
No one.
Good day to you sir.
They are if they are a rental property which is what we've been talking about the whole time. Every year smoke detectors have to be inspected. Ask any real estate agent.
It's why I get a bill each year for $99 simply so I can pay to have somebody spend 15 minutes in my rental properties and change a 9V battery.
On your website you keep referencing legislation, is this federal or state (which state)?