Thought I'd share these as I just bought a pair myself. Most reviews put them similar to the X2s but with a less bassy sound profile.
As Fyrelor said: BUY AT YOUR OWN RISK. The X1 non-Ses have been discontinued since 2015, and with no info on the X1Ses linked other than a spec sheet I can't guarantee these are legitimate.
anyone have the X2's and DT990 Pros 600ohms which have more (stronger) bass ?
For a bit extra, the X2 should be a step up.
…if you can find them at that price though. I'd consider them more to be polished X1s rather than their own new level. They have not glued ear cups, a less rigid headband, and a more warm sound.
AliExpress shipping could take anywhere 2-4 months now in covid
I have bought a few things of Ali this year and got them in 4-5 weeks. I bought a DAC and paid extra for DHL and got it 5 days!
That’s pretty amazing. I have been buying cheap crap that’s usually takes forever and comes in a crappy plastic bag
I've been getting stuff weekly ATM with shipping taking around 2-3weeks.
It depends heavily on the store, my recent fastest standard deliver only took two weeks.
Everything I have ordered with "Aliexpress Standard Shipping" has taken 2 weeks or less, just got a couple of packages yesterday.
Meanwhile, I have an order from Sydney that's just been sitting in the sorting center for 2 weeks.
I don't get how something from China would be faster, the last leg is Auspost anyway..
i had 2 orders from aliexpress one took 3 weeks the other one took 4 weeks which was just last week
What's the chance these are actually X1s?
Theres a post on this that seems to say they got dodgy stuff from this seller:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/absolute-best-budget-earbuds…
Pretty high. I was initially looking for SHP9500s and the people of reddit said they had good experiences with this AliExpress store, but then I stumbled upon these at the same store.
The difference is the SHP9500 would still be in circulation… but only just.
I paid $189 for a pair off Amazon in 2014, glad to see them holding their value
These have been discontinued for so long, that I am 99.9% sure they are fake. My recommendation, stay away from buying these, the X2's were an upgrade on them in every way that they were discontinued almost immediately after, and the X2's are still available from official stores as the rebranded X2HR.
I was under the impression that these are a China only model which is otherwise identical other than the S at the end of the model.
I will remove my negative vote and retract my opinion if someone who knows a lot about AliExpress can confirm that it is a genuine Phillips Store selling these. As far as I am aware, the X1s have been discontinued since November 2015.
I'll be sure to update this post if they're legit when they arrive.
As an x2hr owner i have no idea why anyone would consider this, even if it was real. The current model is often sold on Amazon for sub-$200
@Budju: As someone who has also used the X1, X2, and X2HR. I agree and that's exactly my point, no one should be really buying this even if it is genuine, which I highly doubt anyway considering it was discontinued 6 years ago.
@Budju: How often? I'm thinking about cancelling but don't wanna wait 3 months just to get a small upgrade.
@Void: @Void What do you want to use the headphone for? Tell me your uses. I can make a recommendation. I personally would cancel the order above for the X1, but at the end of the day that's your decision.
@ThatsCheap: Music and a bit of gaming. I don't wanna spend more than $200 and I only have onboard audio.
@Void: What do you have existing? When it comes to open-back headphones, believe me when I say keep saving for something better, and to improve your audio chain.
@jasswolf: I currently have HyperX Cloud IIs which are starting to fail. I'm not really an audio enthusiast, I just want good sounding headphones that will last me a long while.
@Void: Failing as in the pads are getting tattered? If so, for now, replace the pads, and add another $150-$300 in your budget.
Audio Technica ATH-R70X ($300-$360) or AKG K612 Pro ($190-$200) if you're competitive gaming leaning, otherwise the Sennheiser HD 6XX ($250-$280).
Small nod to the Sennheiser HD 560S and the HIFIMAN HE400SE Stealth Magnet but they make different kinds of tradeoffs (tonality and imaging versus the R70X and K612, timbre and resolution versus the 6XX) that don't quite pan out.
There are no interim lower-cost steps that will hold their own when compared to these 5. Budget open backs just plain suck, save for a couple of Koss offerings.
Dongle wise, it looks like the Tempotec Sonata series offers some interesting value, reaching up to legitimate desktop amp-grade performance. Just make sure you have an unbalanced option with what you buy.
@jasswolf: Welp… the X1s have already shipped so I guess I will have to wait and see if they're any good.
I really don't wanna spend more than $200 on headphones, as I said I'm not an audio enthusiast I just want them to sound decent.
The headband on the Cloud IIs is getting loose so they slowly reduce the tightness, and the driver sometimes rattles and I have to whack it.
@Void: Fair enough, but I strongly recommend demoing them against what's been mentioned when you get them.
@Void: No need for the Welp. You've already purchased and they have been shipped, enjoy your new headphones mate. No regrets now, they were fun to listen to, enjoy them :)
@ThatsCheap: I do use that word a bit more than I should tbh. I did a bit more research on the X1Ses, and it seems they are a refresh of the X1s with a larger headband and removable earcups. So maybe I've gotten more than I bargained for :)
Also, the top right corner barcode (snklj09e2) is a Samsung product code with Samsung product verification link under it…
Must be some sort of Samsung - Philips coalition…?
While this is probably fake, it's also the rare moment where I comment 'consider the X2HR instead'.
Would still recommend spending the extra $50 and go for the HIFIMAN HE400SE Stealth Magnet Edition or the AKG K612 Pro.
Are those customer reviews fake? The seller has been around for 4 years and the ratings are pretty good.
I was considering those two but I don't have an amp (which seems to be necessary for them) and that on top of the extra $50 is more than I'm willing to spend.
I've been looking into USB-C dongle options lately, and in the last six months it seems you can get desktop-quality audio for like $90 if you know what you're doing, so the amp isn't as big a hurdle as it used to be.
There's still value in climbing higher as you step into the best of mid-fi and above, but the barrier to entry is rapidly lowering.
Fake or not, wouldn't touch the X1 with a 10-foot pole.
I paid $177 for my X2HR. Just wait for another X2HR deal, probably quicker than waiting for the shipping from China
If 3camel is anything to go by that could be over 3 months away, and I don't know if I wanna wait that long for a slightly better pair of headphones.
yes if you are happy to take the risk on buying a discontinued model from a dodgy retailer at alibaba
The man is desperate, he gotta roll the dice
Ignore all the kind suggestions in the post, it is your money and your decision, ;)
Own a pair of these, though I only have a 58X to compare with I'm pretty sure they're real. On the other hand, I don't believe that they are brand new.
The pair I received had a bit of what looked like machine dust, otherwise they were in new condition. Perhaps a repackaged refurb?
Bass is great on them as you would expect from a V shaped headphone. If you were comparing the the 58x - 58x has less bass, cleaner at the top and more forward mids.
Good headphone. Work great with me from 2013.