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Order total is already including the GST portion, otherwise the total would be $82.
It's just a display error.
Tell the government you feel that way; they sort of HAVE to charge it.
At least it's included in the price. You're not getting away from GST being acceptable if you're buying on-shore.
That brand tho.
Agreed
Whats wrong with Skycomp
No good?
Was interested if this was better than asus rt-ac59u
Who is that member again, ccpspy1 I think, recommend Huawei brand.
It's like fishing, these Chinese companies try to lure you in with cheap hardware, and then steal and redirect your traffic to their server.
All Australian traffic is directed through Prism which is owned and operated by USA capitalists.
Do you have a source for this?
I'm a network engineer with a HUGE interest in security, and there's a pretty big group of us who packet sniff basically all of our data.This accusation gets thrown around a LOT, but nobody has been able to produce evidience yet.
There has been a few instances of routers phoning home themselves; usually to an update server (which we all agree COULD include a few packets of DNS entries or something you willingly give google, and is anonymous anyway), but nothing that suggests an internal static route to some secret chinese spy.I'd like to learn more, because I hear people say this a lot, and as it's sort of my job, I just can't reproduce that problem on multiple products.
@sk3iron: The "secret proof" was in relation to enterprise level routing equipment, like 5G towers. Valuable market research, if true.
Considering other nations did extensive testing after that, I doubt that proof, else why are they not sharing it with allies?
That makes some level of sense; to learn how a nation conducts business to better tailor your product.
Doing so at a consumer level though? The junk data would be phenominal.
People also lack basic network understanding. You literally can NOT vpn your traffic through china, globally, and not have netflix throw their arms up about IP. Even if it were just a reporting service running, users would still be able to record an additional packet stream (even if it were encrypted, it'd still be there, visible, but unreadable) or measure increased jitter.
Im honestly keen to see where a company as big as huawei has decided that "the west is no longer a market we want to sell to", and has done what they're accused of.
Im also very excited to learn how.
But nobody can ever direct me to the proof, and that upsets me. Nothing to research.
@MasterScythe: conspiracy… conspiracy theory…believe or not, it's all to yourself. If some experts said they monitored and discovered Huawei device sent some "extra package" then I believe them. I also believe all are equally evil. Facebook, Google, etc.. are selling our information for years, so do you think Huawei is different? By judging the Chinese government acts and how they manipulate, bully and play victim like to other countries for years, even to Australia I won't trust anything from them and minimise to use their stuffs as much as I can, I'm still a tightarse and an ozbargain member too
If some experts said they monitored and discovered Huawei device sent some "extra package" then I believe them.
Interesting mentality.
What about the thousands who monitored them and they didnt?
There's thousands more of us professionals who cant find evidence than can.
Most of the people who have (apparently) found things, have not submitted proof, nor disclosed their purchase location to ensure it wasnt tampered with.
Just trying to get my head around it.
What makes the minority, whos proof is 'word of mouth', so much more credible to you, than the majority who can provide evidence to the contrary? Why believe "some experts" over "most experts" ?
At least its bound to be better than the usa cisco flaws found…. Chinas track record on international monitoring is worlds better than USA's at least. What brands are left?
Interesting mentality
Sitting there waiting for some experts to publish or share some results is "Interesting mentality" too.
Well.. everyone is innocent until proven guilty as in someone opinion. But let's think this way: If people consume some food/drinks and have some symptoms but manufactures/corporations say it's fine and "completely normal phenomenon", I won't wait until something really bad happen mate.
I still believe your tech knowledge is way better than men, but are you that good to prove it's nothing to worry about?
Sitting there waiting for some experts to publish or share some results is "Interesting mentality" too.
How so? If there's no evidience, no symptoms, no proof, then its just fiction.
I dont think there's much thats 'interesting' about waiting for fictional stories to offer anything before they get credit.
A conspiracy should have at least a modicum of evidience, dont you think?are you that good to prove it's nothing to worry about?
Not alone, no. But with my literally tens of thousands of fellow engineers worldwide who have looked into it? Id say its a fairly confident 'yes'.
So, I ask again:
Why believe the minority who cant offer anything but word of mouth?
Why not believe the professionals who can offer proof?Especially since most nerds involved are just having fun hacking firmware; they're not 'bound' to anyone or influenced.
@MasterScythe: My opinion is very clear as above. I won't trust a China gov funding company and I use my common sense, even though not everyone has the same common sense.
I don't know what security information governments want to share with you, nor what you are waiting for your thousands fellow geeks and engineers. It's pretty clear not only the five eyes want to play safe. but also a communist state country like Vietnam ban Huawei too.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/us-finds-huawei-has-backdoo…
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/technology/huawei-ban-vie…
Anyway you or anyone is more than welcome to use it any day, in the end there is nothing black and white and only the future has the answer.
I won't trust a China gov funding company and I use my common sense
Then, how are you accessing the internet? The routers at your ISP's wholesale level are almost certainly Huawei.
You're using them now, and paying for internet that flows through them.I use my common sense, even though not everyone has the same common sense.
Ah OK, I've never been a blind faith type of person. I place my decisions on evidience, data, and science.
Your description of common sense, would suggest people should believe me if I told you I was a dragon.
You have an equal amount of evidience that I am (some bloke talking at you); so thats proof, right?Both of those articles are media spin, by the way, and both sources are American.
I'm bored, so I'll break down one part for you:"Huawei can reportedly access the networks it helped build that are being used by mobile phones around the world. It's been using backdoors intended for law enforcement for over a decade"
- The USA intended the logging to be used by police (and they didnt, else access audits would be obvious)
- Huawei are able to see usage data on their enterprise equipment. (I actually don't doubt this, this is common, and likely an oversight by whomever signed up to use them; basically market research of 'what part is used the most'.)
- Report: Feb. 12, 2020, "US had noticed access since 2009" - Translation: Whatever they were allegedly doing, wasn't important, because the US government were cool with it for 11 years.
The fact that a government is aware of something, and a company is allowed to continue it for 11 years, is more proof to the mundane nature of the activity, than any sort of damning discovery.
It was just convenient anti-china media spin.
I've never been a blind faith type of person. I place my decisions on evidience, data, and science.
same as proving someone guilty in court, if you commit a crime but they can't prove you, are you innocent?
would suggest people should believe me if I told you I was a dragon.
I just don't blindly believe someone if they just saying one thing, I see what you did, your behaviour, your purposes, etc. to understand who you are.
I don't say other network devices from any countries are not evil as above, maybe you need to read again
If some experts said they monitored and discovered Huawei device sent some "extra package" then I believe them. I also believe all are equally evil. Facebook, Google, etc.. are selling our information for years, so do you think Huawei is different?
Anyway if you're supporting Huawei or not, it's all up to you. You're somehow either selling your information to China or Australia/America/Europe countries. Although their prices are very attractive and hard to resist, I try my best not to use anything that can fund the CCP, as much as I can. As I know a lot of fellas here from China, neg all you want, I don't care.
@ntt: False equivalency.
Historic fact: China only started to "bully" (Australia according to the press) after Australia made a lot of accusations on China and siding with America to attack them on Foreign policy basis. Before this, we had a very good period of almost being best friends with China with lots of trade exports, business ventures and dealings that strengthened both economies.The Chinese reaction is a normal International diplomacy tit-for-tat. The Government and the Press are trying to change the narrative on things, when they started the whole issue in the first place.Ask any of the previous PMs - Turnbull, Rudd, Gillard and they will tell you exactly that the people instigating this are the current heads of Government along with News Corp with information readily supplied by ASPI - who are out to make money for their war manufacturing donors.
@bchliu: if you think they started to bully to and only Australia after that, you need to wake up. CCP is doing for decades to it's surround neighbours. Go ask any countries surrounding it. If you believe in it, you're either from China or too naïve. and yes, Australia, especially the government "love China", because it gives money. Look around to see how China traps other countries using it money.
@ntt: Lol.. I think you're the deluded one if you think that China traps other countries. You do realise the whole entire premise of Western Capitalism in the past few CENTURIES is literally to see how they can trap, enslave or subservant other countries into doing cheap labour whilst they get filthy rich from it all? Who you think made your Nike/Adidas/Reebok gear other than some poor person in some poor country that is paid 50c an hour?
@bchliu: Western capitalists are doing outsource to other 3rd world countries, China too. Don't you think they are not doing that?
no need to insult me, just Google "debt trap diplomacy" and see. Someone need to wake up.
@ntt: So.. it's ok for the West to do this, but no.. not China? LOL.
Not insulting you.. but just calling your hypocrisy here.
The whole "Debt Trap diplomacy" is what Wall Street and US Govt is slandering Chinese Foreign Policies to be when it comes to helping African and Middle Eastern nations. Rather than bringing WAR to most of these areas - like US, Australia and UK, they want to help these areas with economical recovery and using their resources to bring forth a "Win:win" scenario. They're supplying Chinese goods at reduced rates, with low interest (much lower than the World Bank) and trying to help with alleviating poverty as such.
I don't know about you - but this sounds a billion time better than the "Hey if you don't hand over your resources then here's our drone strike.. eat this missile, Civilians in the name of FREEDOM" diplomacy that the West is doing. The same diplomacy that secures resources for America to continue to plunder..
@MasterScythe: Well, I don't know whether Huawei actually does that or not, but obviously US did that and is still doing that via equipment from US companies i.e. CISCO etc. The emerging of Huawei threatens US supremacy in communications and gradually competes US companies out of the market. And thus US' reaction is predicable: it will do what ever they can to maintain their current status and of course, eliminating the challengers is the most direct and efficient way. And Huawei, happens to be that disrupter and thus it does not really matter it does it or not, current drama is always going to happen.
Put all those non-sense aside, I have an AX3 pro and I'm pretty disappointed about it. Speed is good but it's not like Huawei enterprise products, AX3 pro is not very stable and I had to reboot it every a couple of weeks, sometimes even a couple of times a week as internet drops out for no reason, it simply disappears from the network. Now it just sits somewhere collecting dusts.
Well, I don't know whether Huawei actually does that or not, but obviously US did that and is still doing that via equipment from US companies i.e. CISCO etc
Thats kind of the point I'm making, they're using a company with the most zero day exploits in existance, but they've banned one with a near faultless record?!
The president at the time was very much focused on increasing local production and wealth.I get the idea behind it: Since a chips firmware is relatively closed source, the theory is that if there is a kill switch inside the communication chips, a untrusted power could just say 'nope, no more data for you!' and switch off all the equipment.
But thats possible for ANY company.Optus did it to us in 2019 remember? They accidentally blocked all foreign IP ranges for 24 hours (called it an outage, but it wasn't)
Facebook did it to us too, remember? When they banned news here? And shut down domestic abuse help lines and COVID reports? That was only months ago. But they didn't ban facebook.
Samsung and their leaked smart TV's recording lounge room convos? Didnt ban Samsung.
Google\Alexa and triggering assistant recordings without the keywords? Didnt ban Google, or AmazonUntil anyone can show any sign of Huawei doing wrong, it's just more misinformation, and I hate misinformation.
The 'trusted' brands have made MORE misteps than huawei, but we still trust them. It was a scapegoat thing.
Don't fall in their lying trick, when you see these peoples always claiming/accusing without proof, you can tell they all are horseshxt ppls who only lie. For tech guys like us, scientific proof is more important than conclution, always validating the proof before accepting is embeded to our brain, which lier will never give it to you.
Lol. I remember talking to someone working for our Feds about this and they were adamant Huawei and the CPC were aligned and stealing data. I questioned them about the evidence, they assured me the evidence is there. I asked for information on this and they said it's top secret, and that no public can get this information as a result.
Other than being a total waste of time, it was a great laugh. It seriously is just projection and diversion that the "Five Eyes" and PRISM were already doing this on a much bigger scale, yet hey.. "Squirrel!" Strawman..
@bchliu: Oh look, I don't doubt they're stealing data.
What I doubt is the impact of said data.Lets spin up our own theory with no proof but, something that's actually very likely.
The probably DO have plenty of ways to log, say, MAC addresses of things connected to my router, and share that during an update… cool…..
With a MAC address, they can locate a distributor of the WiFi chip…. neat….
Sooooo….They now know that "Samsung" sells the most phones in the world…. ok?Fine, Fine Fine; I'll stop being facetious.
The Business value to that? Vast. VERY vast.
The Personal Invasion level though? Minimal to Zero.The ease at which you can check what people own online, is laughable, I dont doubt there is a report-home-brand-names script or something sales focused. Its just likely.
But there are impossible-to-hide symptoms, of intercepting live user data that just aren't there for anything malicious.Live user data is what people want to protect.
And for any of the paranoid out there, no, there's no way to 'leverage' technology like that to steal your passwords or hack your PC, it's just not how technology works. They're on different levels of the TCP\IP stack to start with….
@MasterScythe: Pretty sure that IF they are stealing data, then anyone within the industry can prove it downright by putting man-in-the-middle between any Huawei and whatever the upstream is and start doing a packet sniff.. shit, in fact, any modern firewalls/WAFs can detect this stuff.
But this controversy has been going on for years.. almost three years, with many many installations around the world, you'd think there'd be many cybersecurity "experts" coming out with real substantive evidence. Data HAS to travel somehow - through the mediums it is connected to. Any data can be picked up and shown if they have physical access to the ports it goes by.
Unless of course, Huawei managed to be the first in establishing quantum tunneling and being able to leak data without the establish mediums (if this was true, then they really are truly impressive).
Pretty sure that IF they are stealing data, then anyone within the industry can prove it downright by putting man-in-the-middle between any Huawei and whatever the upstream is and start doing a packet sniff.. shit, in fact, any modern firewalls/WAFs can detect this stuff.
If they're stealing live data, correct.
The baseless assertion\theory I make above could easily be acomplished via any of the hundreds of end-to-end encrypted protocols that exist now.
In fact, I'm using one now, called HTTPS, as are you, to view ozbargain. It was used to securely tunnel your username and password.If I let you on my network, you could see I'm sending data….. you'd have no idea what it is though. You could guess based on port, but you can't see it.
Thats why I don't doubt their ability, and the common (business) sense, that would exist in mining data from something like… brand names.
The data is tiny and the data is mundane enough to downplay 'if you get caught'.
But being a government company, they could use that data to know which chip manufacturer should be up-scaled next year during budget.The conspiracy theorists use the fact that encryption exists to keep their fire running "MY MODEM SENT DATA TO HUAWEI!"
Yep, you probably have automatic updates turned on, or a VOIP feature, or InternetTime servers, who knows.The thing is that that data COULD be anything (it's most likely a version tag, for updates).
What it CAN'T be is live data, nor data that was sent encrypted (which is almost everything….).Thats what us Engineers would look for.
- Is there a constant stream, that suggests live data is leaking?
- Is there enough encrypted data (in size) sent to huawei during updates or such, that it could be user data?
Both are quite firmly planted in the 'no' camp right now.It's not like the old internet days anyway; even if they stole all your DNS traffic, thats almost the only thing not encrypted anymore; so they know you went to bustylatinas, but they don't know your login or your favorite actress.
As I said, useful market research, near zero personal intrusion.
Because 99% of it are Alex Jones conspiracy theories. If it was true the data packets would stand out.
I would be more concerned with tech companies (Facebook blah blah) selling our personal information or data breaches from our incompetent government, medical records of example.
Is it AX3 Pro?
Not found now
What's this like compared to the tp link archer ax20?
I was wondering the same.
With bundled unlimited cloud storage in China.
And free web traffic monitoring for your protection
All traffic routed through China for additional protection from google, apple and facebook. And passwords safely backed up in case you forget them.
Do you have any evidence of this?
And wait there's more! Simply use this device long enough and you'll also go in the draw to win free remote access to your computer from the CCP :P
Funny that the fact is that Huawei probably is the cleanest company of any others eg Facebook, Ericsson etc.
Nobody is clean.
They've come under so much scrutiny and checks and nothing has been found. The reason they are banned is that by Chinese law they have to have over information when requested by the Chinese govt.
@The Hobo: I don't think you are a tech guy as your logic is weird, yes the goverment order huawei to hand over data, but it's proved no sencetive data has been send back by Huawei then how do they get our data? For a tech guy's logic, we don't look at who want the data send back, any network gear send data back without our tech guy's consent is a breach of security, no matter who made it or who want the data.
If a camera has a cloudy lense, all the pictures it shot are cloudy.
@AussieGargain: This can be applied to any arguments ;) People's data/information is power. If you feel that companies are not harnessing it, you need to clear that cloudy lense of yours. OH BTW, I use a huawei phone myself if you think I am a fan boi of some US company.
@[Deactivated]: By evidence, companies harnessing private data have been exposed by evidence. Huawei went through vigorous investigations, which have found nothing. I’m not supporting Huawei per se, it’s the principle we should all stick to. See this thread, joke started about Huawei privacy, and jokes followed. Enough jokes lead to “truth” to believe. What’s the root of issue? - loosely regulated media. That clouded our “lense”.
@AussieGargain: Agreed,
People like to point to the so called CIA proof, which is "secret" so we can't see it.
If its not a lie, why are the US not sharing this information with allied secret services?
And if they are, why are those nations not worried?
When a country stands alone, there's very rarely a positive reason for it.
@MasterScythe: The proof is soooo secretive, no one is allowed to know about it. So proof exists, just believe in it like a good Australian citizen you should be.
@bchliu: Hey look, don't twist my image; I don't think the government is out to get us.
I genuinely believe things can be secretive, I don't think we have the right to know everything.But the fact that all the allied nations didn't ban them instantly, and the fact that their products are still for sale at all, speaks louder to their safety than any supposed 'leak' they've found.
Also, the fact that the accusations are easy for the average engineer to check themselves, is pretty damning (in a postive way, for huawei).
I said it before, but I'll repeat it:
When an allies nation stands alone, it's rarely for positive (or genuine) reasons.@MasterScythe: The US government has cisco under its thumb, they want a backdoor in all their enterprise gear they get one no questions ask. You think Huawei will answer to the US government?
Same applies to Ericsson, if the EU wants a backdoor in there it won't be an issue.
They understand the chinese government will do the same thing as they have done with cisco, your be stupid not to. Once your devices in every edge network across the globe you can do whatever you want.
haha, a simple fact in IT world but the public still believe horseshXt lier other than tecvh guy.
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And cuts you off after three hours of video gaming a week if you are under 18 or a girly man.
Lol
Must be sold out, link goes to an empty search now
must be a weird company who instead of just marking that its sold out, they just delete the page
what is that?
Following what JB does. lol
Maybe they are planning to not get any more stock.
Don't have this but have the ax3pro which is quad core. Amazing kit for the price (around $90)
I got 2 of these with the intent on mesh, only needed one as the range and coverage is quite good. I can recommend them.
Prob the best value for money wifi 6 router on the market at the time when i bought it.If you miss out on this, Xiaomi has a similar model for similar pricing. https://www.dicksmith.com.au/da/buy/xiaomi-mi-router-ax1800-…
From the quick review search that I did, it has similar performance to the Huawei.
Yeah I'm totally confident in buying a device from Huawei that transmits all of my information over the internet.
Yep, me too.
I've logged them extensively and can't find these connections people speak of.
Good router.yeah, in the past year with all these ransom attack, most US company went to crazy tie on security messure, which affected AU a lots because many if not most of our big firms actually owned by US. And with all the left over huawei gears, it prove no problem for security and work quite well.
Bought 3 of theses, don’t care if CCP monitoring my YouTube history.
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no gst isnt acceptable