[NSW] Am I Allowed to Buy Something Essential from a Facebook Marketplace Seller?

FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 12:26
Last edited 14/08/2021 - 12:34 by 1 other user

Ok, so I found on FB someone selling some kid DVDs and cars. My kids need cars and DVD to remain entertained. I could buy from a shop with click and collect for 10x the price. Or from this person

I am not in a hotspot LGA.

This Facebook seller lives in my same LGA and less than 5km away. I can pay them with PayID prior to attending. They can leave the parcel in their driveway and I can pick it up contactless.

I am fully vaxed for COVID. Both doses.

In my mind, this is safer than click and collect anyway and it is something that I need for my children.

Thoughts?

Poll Options

  • 138
    I am fine
  • 407
    I could be fined
  • 21
    I should find the items in a shop, click and collect and pay 10x more
Health & Beauty

Comments

  • tsunamisurfer on 14/08/2021 - 12:32
    +240

    If you told me you need toy cars and DVDs I would give you the full $5000 fine.

    Come on man…..listen to yourself.

      • capslock janitor on 18/08/2021 - 10:57

        You have toys for them? Let 'em have endless imagination. That's what I did half my childhood.

        Could be easier too in theory, because they have each other to interact. Whereas I played by myself until my lil siblings came along many years later.

        • FoxJump on 18/08/2021 - 13:24
          -3

          Yes they interact with each other. Including fighting :(

    • bdl on 14/08/2021 - 13:47
      +30

      One of the DVDs is "The Muppet Show"

    • brendanm on 14/08/2021 - 13:59
      +17

      Scomo said it's fine and essential.

      • brendanm on 14/08/2021 - 20:44
        +11

        Lol negged for stating a fact šŸ˜‚

      • ThithLord on 16/08/2021 - 08:08
        +2

        Yep. OP just needs to bear in mind for the lockdown to work, it has to work. S*untmo can't be any clearer than that

      • sparkles on 16/08/2021 - 16:20
        +5

        It's only essential if it's a jigsaw puzzle. This I know for certain.

        • ATangk on 16/08/2021 - 19:09

          His wife again…

    • BreezyPalms on 15/08/2021 - 10:56
      +12

      I think contactless click and collect in this case is far less dangerous than going to Coles/Woolworths/Bunningsā€¦

      Just wipe down whatever you buy with antibacterial wipes to be safe.

      • capslock janitor on 18/08/2021 - 10:46

        /And quarantine the items from 14 days.

    • mincemeat on 15/08/2021 - 13:19

      ok.. and stand at the supermarket exits and fine anyone who buys anything thats not water

      • ozbargainer88 on 16/08/2021 - 08:12
        +14

        Weeb
        Low IQ

        Name a more iconic duo

        So far your advice has been lie to police and just carry a mask incase you need it.

        • Blitzfx on 16/08/2021 - 15:24
          +3

          Weeb
          Low IQ

          Name a more iconic duo

          Add people who use Runescape profile pics as well.

          • ankor on 19/08/2021 - 07:48
            +1

            @Blitzfx: Hey not all Runescape fans are like this!!

        • Deeseeee on 21/08/2021 - 17:41
          -2

          Oy vey don't notice anything goy!

      • gimli on 16/08/2021 - 20:18
        +11

        You are possibly legally correct but I think this fails the pub test.

        • Assburg on 17/08/2021 - 15:17
          +1

          Luckily one of the values of our country is the importance of an equitable judicial process.

          • [Deactivated] on 17/08/2021 - 20:21

            @Assburg: But if you fail this uphill battle, you get to pay extra

    • [Deactivated] on 17/08/2021 - 08:37
      +9

      This is exactly why NSW is in the position it is in.

    • T1OOO on 17/08/2021 - 23:28

      This has gone viral

    • Deeseeee on 21/08/2021 - 17:39
      -1

      Oy vey you must obey goy! Don't notice anything!

  • Platinumtelecom on 14/08/2021 - 12:40
    +21

    I am sure you have a smart TV. Netflix, Disney+?? They have free 30 day trial.

    Not essential!

    • snooksy on 15/08/2021 - 22:55
      +10

      Yes, petrol stations and supermarkets stock kids toys and DVDs. DVDs and toys can be delivered.

      I am in Melbourne under lockdown and I work from home. We get groceries delivered and we donā€™t leave the house until lockdown finishes. Iā€™m also in an LGA with no cases.

      Even if you are vaccinated you still can get and catch the virus and you will still spread it to others who may not vaccinated. Stay at home. Please try to think about the bigger picture.

      • capslock janitor on 18/08/2021 - 10:42
        -1

        What is an "LGA"?

        • resisting the urge on 18/08/2021 - 15:41

          Instantiated inside the fed.gov.au, is a state.gov.au and then a local.state.gov.au

          There are no FGAs and no SGAs. LGAs however, are super-important, as they correlate roughly to MVAs (Ministers' Voters' Areas).

          Essentially, it is the relationship LGAs have to MVAs that makes them count, especially whilst around room temperature*.

          NB. * This does not take into account the impact of federal, state, or local government-induced climate change, or the IQ of the essentially working, or the essential and non-essentially emplloyed others, in each MVA.

      • Krankite on 19/08/2021 - 09:27

        More importantly Delta affects children and no child is vaccinated. There is also 100% transfer within household based on QLDs outbreak so you don't want to bring this one home even if you are vaccinated so won't have a sever reaction.

    • FireRunner on 15/08/2021 - 23:10
      +1

      Actually, Netflix and Disney+ no longer have a free trial.
      Stan has a free 30 day trial and Paramount Plus is 7 days.
      Prime Video is included with a Prime membership which has a free 30 day trial

    • Oneguyinmelb on 16/08/2021 - 13:27
      +6

      There is also ABC iView 100% free (or at least paid with your tax dollars).

      Plenty of content on there and updated daily.

      • FoxJump on 16/08/2021 - 13:58

        :o
        I did not know about iView. Not sure if my smart tv has it. Is it part of the weirdly implented needs-tv-reception-but-internet-to-watch features?

        • Oneguyinmelb on 16/08/2021 - 14:04
          +3

          Most smart TVs allow the ABC iView app, or you can use ChromeCast and your phone.

          My Smart TV is nearly 8 years old (Samsung Series 5) and the app still works.

        • hullohullo on 16/08/2021 - 21:42

          SBS has free content too IIRC!

          • FoxJump on 16/08/2021 - 21:49

            @hullohullo: Yes. But in my mind sbs doesn't have child friendly shows. Maybe Southpark .. not.

        • SnowDragon on 17/08/2021 - 08:46

          Buy a Firestick for $59 and you won't need to use the shitty built in "smart" features.

          You can also download every catchup and streaming app. Even YouTube Kids (which I assume is good)

  • foxmulder on 14/08/2021 - 12:42
    +15

    I suggest to contact your local police station whether this is allowed. I do the same previously when I asked if I can drive wife to mall and wait in the car park (allowed by the way).

    • FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 12:43
      +4

      Good idea. Very good idea. Will do thanks

      • popsiee on 14/08/2021 - 12:47
        +41

        Seriously why would you waste Police resources for something like that ?

        • gimli on 16/08/2021 - 20:20
          +6

          because they are policing this. If they say you can't it saves you from being fined and means they get there job done of getting people to follow covid rules.

      • terrys on 15/08/2021 - 16:13
        +3

        I see no reason for the negs, there'll be a contact page on their web site surely?

        One thing though…

        <Hawtrey font>Do get back to us, won't you!<Hawtrey font>

        It's how the place works.

        • FoxJump on 16/08/2021 - 14:00
          +2

          I just rang the local police station. Theyre friendly. I once called them to report a car that was driving with a door that looked like it had been pried open. I asked to confirm whether the car was stolen or not, given the rego and car model. They checked and said no, so all was well that day.

      • poldy on 16/08/2021 - 12:14
        -1

        Can you record the conversation and post it on here. Could use a good laugh today!

        • FoxJump on 16/08/2021 - 14:00
          +1

          Cannot. Apparently i need permission from both people in a call to record. Plus it already happened.

    • HeWhoKnows on 15/08/2021 - 22:29
      -6

      Sorry but that wont work
      One policeman will say one thing then someone else something different

      DO NOT CONTACT OR INVOLVE THE POLICE!

  • dufflover on 14/08/2021 - 12:44
    +9

    Is that you ScoMo?

    • FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 12:50
      -7

      They're too young for puzzles. But its a similar scenario

      • morse on 14/08/2021 - 13:35
        +7

        Too young for puzzles but old enough for DVDs? Kids start with puzzles from around 12months.

        Anyhow, I agree itā€™s not completely absurd to get DVDs to entertain your kids, particularly if itā€™s contactless pick up.

        Thereā€™s also a fair bit you can stream for kids on iview if you donā€™t have any other streaming subscriptions.

        • FoxJump on 16/08/2021 - 00:31
          -3

          Well when I think puzzles I thing those 1000 piece things. They already have a a few of the put things into a cut out puzzle

    • websterp on 14/08/2021 - 16:17
      +4

      More like Pam

  • jjjaar on 14/08/2021 - 12:48
    +11

    Now, I agree with others that buying DVDs right now is not essential, so on that note I would not waste my time with this kind of purchase.

    But given you can buy from JB, this is where it gets really stupid around rules v logic.

    Yes you possibly could be fined as itā€™s against the rules. To both buy these items from a private seller, and then collect them.

    But logically there is very minimal risk of covid spread in these settings. Less risk than perhaps going for a walk with this individual, which is allowed under the rules, and being handed the items in the process.

    You just need to decide if itā€™s worth the monetary risk.

      • snooksy on 15/08/2021 - 22:56
        +11

        Wow based on this response we are totally screwed!

        • SF3 on 16/08/2021 - 00:06
          +9

          Thatā€™s the worrying society trend, people actions and decisions being driven by rules/law (e.g. saying it is above board), without consideration of a ā€œmoral compassā€.

          • ThithLord on 16/08/2021 - 08:10
            +2

            @SF3: It readily identifies LNP voters, gotta tell ya

          • Chandler on 18/08/2021 - 11:30
            +2

            @SF3: @Amayzingone and a lot of people in NSW need to consider the difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

            • HeWhoKnows on 22/08/2021 - 09:45
              -1

              @Chandler: No!
              You need to understand your RIGHTS and your RESTRICTIONS
              Spirit is NOT the law

              • Chandler on 22/08/2021 - 19:14

                @HeWhoKnows: And you need to understand your RESPONSIBILITIES!

                And not just the law - I actually read a comment on regards to COVID that put it quite well (in my opinion).

                Long story short - you have a responsibility to society. All you people clamoring about "MuH rIgHtS" are failing to meet those responsibilities.

                Do you really think that EVERYONE involved with EVERY level of government and EVERY level of healthcare, is involved in some conspiracy to strip you of some rights (rights that you don't actually have here in Australia) and give you your own personal radio transceiver?

                Stop encouraging people to break the law, stay the (profanity) home, and we all might get through this without losing too many people along the way.

  • iamherenow on 14/08/2021 - 12:55
    +16

    Not essential.

    • Mokr on 14/08/2021 - 15:25

      gonna be 2 months without dvds

      • smartazz104 on 15/08/2021 - 19:42
        +2

        Should be on blu rays or streaming by now.

        • FireRunner on 15/08/2021 - 23:12
          +1

          So it's essential if you're getting blu rays?

    • mincemeat on 15/08/2021 - 18:33
      +3

      Neither is deliveroo, Ubereats etc, people coming to your house.

      • BreezyPalms on 16/08/2021 - 19:02
        +1

        99% of deals on this site are for non-essential items that people will go and click and collect or get deliveredā€¦ is it really that much different?

    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 14/08/2021 - 14:15
      +5

      Doesn't mention the bare super bare Spartan necessities.

      You're reaching.

  • SF3 on 14/08/2021 - 13:09
    +15

    My kids need cars and DVD to remain entertained.
    it is something that I need for my children.
    Thoughts?

    Woah, troll factor level = high.

    Buy online and get it delivered.

    Videos, YouTube is ā€œfreeā€.

    • Goremans on 18/08/2021 - 06:11

      And have courier who's been all around town touching every door knob drop it off.

      • capslock janitor on 18/08/2021 - 10:51

        Courier ain't touching my knob that's for sure

  • o53djz7qTPY4der on 14/08/2021 - 13:11
    +7

    Essential DVDs and cars….

    it is something that I need for my children.

    Things you need for your children: food, medicine, and a healthy dose of reality not DVDs.

    • FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 13:13
      -6

      You also need a way to keep them entertained so that I can actually do some work and chores. I can't spend all day every day taking them for a walk around the block.

      • knk on 15/08/2021 - 19:37
        +3

        sounds like you need to find some alternate avenues to keep your kids entertained.

        The fact you think it's even remotely acceptable to leave your house and potentially spread this crap make you part of the problem.

        You can literally next business day order a bunch of shit from amazon for your kids to be entertained, you can download / stream shows for a negligible sum of money.

        If you really want the DVDs from this guy (who uses DVDs anymore?) have him send them via a contactless delivery service.

      • ChatCPT on 16/08/2021 - 02:11
        +4

        Get some DVDs on parenting!! That is essential and you need it!

    • HeWhoKnows on 15/08/2021 - 22:43
      -1

      Obviously coming from someone that doesn't have young kids driving you crazy at home.

      Anything for OP to keep their sanity and entertain the kids is more essential than " food, medicine, and a healthy dose of reality"

  • FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 13:15
    -4

    Thanks everyone for your opinions. It seems the majority of comments thinks what I am proposing to do is not essential yet the polls say I should be okay.

    Shrug.
    I will consider my options given your feedback thank you.

    • dust on 14/08/2021 - 13:26
      +3

      Looks like the people voting are a different group to the people commenting?

      • FireRunner on 15/08/2021 - 23:13
        +1

        The silent majority?

        • SF3 on 15/08/2021 - 23:47
          +1

          Or trolling anonymously. Canā€™t even tell who voted, unlike deals. Users could vote one way and say something else.

          I am fine

          Could be taking the p1ss with the connotation on this one.

          PS. I didnā€™t vote.

    • bdl on 14/08/2021 - 13:46
      +2

      That's great, when you get booked make sure you show the cop this Ozbargain poll and you will be fine.d

      • FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 14:01
        +1

        :)

    • JakeyJooJoo on 14/08/2021 - 14:19
      +7

      I'd say the people upvoting you are parents, that are too busy to comment. And the people that are commenting in outrage have never had kids.

      You've clearly thought this out, it is obviously a safe and fine thing to do.
      You are definitely correct that this is essential. Not only are kids hard to entertain while in lockdown, they also need stimulation through play to learn and grow.
      Geez, scomo even got on the news and crapped on about how buying puzzles was considered essential.

      I'd make the transaction without a second thought, and any decent cop wouldn't fine you. If you are unlucky enough to be questioned, and fined, then you would no doubt win the contest.
      Common sense says this is fine. go for it.

      • Archi on 14/08/2021 - 16:49
        +4

        wrong i'm a parent of 2 primary aged kids,

        scenario OP presented is OK… the problem most Oz bargainers have here is the Phrase,

        My kids need cars and DVD to remain entertained

        rather than i would like to get DVD's and cars to to entertain my kids.. the kids don't need cars and DVD's to be entertained

        • HeWhoKnows on 16/08/2021 - 00:07
          -2

          Sorry but with 100% agree with JakeyJooJoo though you both miss the crux of the situation

          People here should take the time read the law.instead of being self proclaimed legal experts (they would all fail dismally)

          The law makes no mention nor defines the word "essential"

          Hence OP is perfectly entitled to purchase the goods as long as he/she operates within the limits of the lawā€¦..

          QUOTE FROM NSW GOV COVID-19 WEB SITE:
          Reasonable excuse to leave home

          A reasonable excuse is if you need to
          obtain food or other goods and services

          within 10km of your home, or within your local government area or cross into another local government area if it is within 10km of your home (limited to 5km from Monday 16 August 2021) and it is not a local government area of concern (unless the food or goods or services or their equivalent are not reasonably available locally)

          for the personal needs of the household or for other household purposes (including pets)

          For more details see here (dont listen to the FAKE NEWS or "tainted" political speeches)
          https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#reasonaā€¦

    • Bristhrifty on 15/08/2021 - 07:10
      +3

      You should add a poll option "not essential, stay home", you'll get heaps of votes

    • HeWhoKnows on 15/08/2021 - 22:45
      -3

      My comment is the most useful one.
      The rest are just "opinions" from "self proclaimed" legal professionals without any legal qualifications and which are best ignored

    • Drakesy on 16/08/2021 - 09:18
      +3

      The polls definitely dont say you'll be ok

  • pao2x on 14/08/2021 - 13:26
    +6

    Though it is not essential if done properly can have less contact than going out for coffee. Tell them you are exercising and walking there has absolutely zero difference. So just exercise there if you want

  • FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 13:34
    +12

    I called the friendly police station. They said it's a Gray area and that they'd err on the side of caution so they advised me again it. So I won't.

    Meanwhile mowing the lawn in my recently purchased but unoccupied home in the same LGA is totally okay. So yay. I'll be doing that tomorrow.

    • bdl on 14/08/2021 - 13:48
      +16

      Get the kids to cut the lawn and they won't need DVDs or cars

      • FoxJump on 14/08/2021 - 13:52
        +12

        They're two years old. And there's two of them. And only one mower

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