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Alienware Aurora R10 Desktop Ryzen 7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 2TB HDD, RTX 3070 $2599 Delivered @ Dell eBay

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Pretty good (further) discounts on Alienware systems, Dell Ebay store.

Alienware Aurora R10 Desktop Ryzen™ 7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD + 2TB HHD, RTX 3070 - $2,599.00 after using Dell Coupon ($4099 on Dell's site) https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/393225738310

Alienware Aurora R10 Gaming Desktop Ryzen 7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, RTX 3060 Ti - $2,299.00 after using Dell Coupon
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/324545936490

Alienware Aurora R12 Gaming Desktop Core i7 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, RTX 3060Ti - $2,512.77 after using Dell Coupon
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/393228920110

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  • +29

    Thanks for the deal, but these R10's look like a non-buy based on Gamers Nexus' review.

    Note, there is genuine laughter at the product in the link I've shared so maybe don't watch if you have one.

    • +9

      All you really need to do is switch out the cpu fan cooler for a H60 Liquid Cooler - about $90-100 brand new on amazon - and that reduces the CPU temp down to about 60 degrees c with zero throttling under heavy load.

      I bought this model myself because the cost of a 3070 + Ryzen 7 5800, which I wanted for a gaming PC, is more than the cost of this machine as a whole if you try to build your own. I did my research and knew what I was getting in to, and I haven't really noticed any throttling myself. CPU temp does get up to about 85 degrees though. Playing Doom Eternal in 1440p Ultra settings with full raytracing at 100hz sees my GPU at 100% utilization and the CPU frequencies still around where they should be. I've ordered a H60 anyway, as that CPU temp is high, and the fans go bananas.

      For the price it's a great deal.

      • +5

        What about the issues with the VRAM and people burning out their boards under load? Would need more than a closed loop cpu cooler to fix that.

        • +1

          I wonder how common is the problem. So far mine is okay (touch wood) and have been stress tested.

        • +3

          Well mine haven't burnt out yet so I dunno. You could just buy the heat sinks that go on the VRAM if you're that worried.

        • +6

          You can contact Dell for the part numbers below and get them shipped to you for roughly $20. I’ve done the Corsair H60 upgrade and also changed the case fans to Noctua. Thing runs like a beast now. The stock air cooler was absolutely pathetic though and Dell should be ashamed of themselves for even providing it as an option.

          TOP HEATSINK part# 4D5V9 —-
          ASSY,HTSNK,VR,CPU,RYZEN

          LEFT SIDE HEATSINK part# J46J2 —-
          Assembly,Heatsink,Video Resolution,Central Processor Unit,95 W,R5

        • If you replace with a watercooled solution and have it mounted on the top, make sure the fans are drawing in that way when cpu ramps up that air gets moved over the m/b keeping the VRM's cool.

          I find that the optimal setup and one of the benefits of watercooling being enhanced m/b cooling.

      • +9

        A prebuilt shouldn’t need more, as they’re usually targeted to people who aren’t so hands on.

        • +3

          Agree. Dell have done a sht job with cheaping out on using 2x8GB (instead of a single 16GB) ram sticks and an AIO. I struggle why a company would tannish the "top of the range" line with marginal saving - $100 at most.

          • +2

            @[Deactivated]: AIO is not any better than an air cooler, but using a stock intel cooler is not what I’d pay to get an ‘Alienware’.

            • @ATangk: Yes, agree. Air coolers are great where space is permitted. Some years back, good old trusted Zalman done a great job at cooling the Intel P3/4s… As well Thermaltake used to have a giant passive air cooler that does the job "okay", I have pair it with a fan mounted to the "passive" air cooler, and it worked really well.

              In the case for R10, AIO is definitely better the stock Intel stuff due to design of the case. It will allow slightly more space for airflow, and the main component (CPU) that produces hot air is extracted directly to external of the case. Taking out the 3.5" HDD, replacing it with an artic 120mm PST sucking in air creates a nice lil wind tunnel through upper half of the case, and hot air out from the top. For size of the case, airflow is excellent.

              Probably a lil bit too much for target user… such a shame that Dell cheaped out on the AIO.

              Found it! Thermaltake SONIC TOWER https://tweakers.net/productreview/1179/thermaltake-sonic-to…

              • @[Deactivated]: Hahaa… I'm using a Zalman in my current setup, 5900x. Plus an overkill GPU killer + 5 P12 fans for an almost silent build.

          • +1

            @[Deactivated]: 2x8GB is better performance than a single 16gb stick, dual channel will always beat single channel so that's a good thing imo

            • @4foxache: Yes, was trying to say that Dell cheaped out and placed a 1x 16GB stick in there.

              • @[Deactivated]: Even my budget silent i5 build 5 years ago had a cooler bigger than that! Still going silently where no other Alien has gone before.

      • I'd probably be even more worried with a closed loop cooler in this system than the stock cooler to be honest. The stock cooler at least pushes air down and over the VRMs. Throwing a liquid cooler in there will mean they see even less air and run hotter as a result.

        The motherboard isn't going to last long, especially if you do anything CPU-heavy with a 5800.

        • I would disagree. The fan cooler blows hot air back into the case. - some dude on amazon mentioned his vram idles at 50-60C

          Replacing it with an AIO ensures hot air is directed out (AIO fan as exhaust rather than intake where front mounting is permitted). The large 120mm intake fan is enough to draw cool air in. over case temp is lower after AIO. My vram idles at 20C, and goes upto 50-60C underload.

          • @[Deactivated]: Plenty of stories from when liquid AIO coolers started to become popular about why this setup is problematic. It's part of the reason why pretty much every motherboard off the shelf these days has heatsinks over the VRMs. Feel free to repeat that history though.

            also VRM's, not VRAM, two very different things. VRM's dictate and supply the power going to your CPU.

      • +1

        you are still buying trash, no matter what u put in it, its made of trash. it will only get trashier. You cant change the fundamentally flawed design and components.

      • switching out the CPU cooler has no business being a necessity in a $2500+ prebuilt.

        • You're right, it shouldn't be - but with prices the way they are, it's a price many are willing to pay since it's still cheaper than building your own equivalent PC.

      • All you really need to do is switch out the cpu fan cooler for a H60 Liquid Cooler

        Then just buy the Dell Intle 11700 tower versions for $300-$500 less… just flip off unlimited PL2 if you're worried about power draw.

        AMD still uses more at idle these days.

      • Yup or
        buy it take the cpu/gpu/ and any other bits you want.

        Chuck in a 2nd hand cpu (2700/x/ 3600 etc) / any lower gpu and resell the whole thing.

      • Won't that void warranty though?

    • +5

      You have to understand Gamers Nexus’ target audience. They are PC system builders, of course they hate Dells.

      Since eBay was full of really cheap Dell G5 systems without videos cards I bought one for $720 to use as primarily as a media machine. 10700F, 1TB NVME SSD and 16gb RAM.

      I replaced the CPU cooler for $50 just for fun and the system cannot be made to overheat no matter how long you peg the CPU at 100%. Sure it has a proprietary mobo and PS but so what? So do laptops.

      The Dells can be fixed and make good sense in this GPU constrained market. The Alienware ones do have lots of unnecessary ornamentation though.

      I really like my G5, tiny and powerful.

      • +5

        I'd say the same thing about you and understanding Dell's target audience. Do you think a majority percentage of Dell pre-built buyers want to be replacing or fixing flawed CPU cooling systems?

        • +2

          Well said, and know-how to remove Dell's bloatware.
          And yes say you replace the CPU cooler, the vram, motherboard, disks all get hot. Airflow is below ordinary for something that sounds like a rocket.

          On a positive note, the GPU doesn't look half bad,

        • +1

          I used to work in IT, we use Dells, I like them.

          As far as the Dell G5 or XPS goes, the target audience of that for Dell probably wouldn’t notice the throttling. They wouldn’t notice or care about the 5%-10% performance drop they are leaving on the table.

          Horses for courses, not everyone has PC fixit friends they can call on.

          Also the only reason we are having this conversation is that Dell and Lenovo seem about the only companies not gouging their customers to take advantage of the GPU shortages. Dell should be given some credit for that.

          Up until recently almost the ONLY way you could get a decent GPU without being reemed was to buy a Dell.

          • +1

            @Grok:

            I used to work in IT, we use Dells, I like them.

            And they've been dining out on that for 20 years, much like Microsoft, HP/Compaq, Acer, Lenovo, LG, and IBM. Apple are in on that racket in their own way, with their own ecosystem. Google and Xiaomi trying to join in on the party.

            As far as the Dell G5 or XPS goes, the target audience of that for Dell probably wouldn’t notice the throttling. They wouldn’t notice or care about the 5%-10% performance drop they are leaving on the table.

            The noise and the heat is the problem, and that impacts lifespan. Unless you get the liquid cooling model (or fit one), they grabbed incorrectly-fitting Intel OEM coolers and smooshed them into these chips. Doesn't even cover the lid of the CPU properly.

    • +6

      Very biased points observed. Most of his comments are irrelevant.
      1. No hidden surcharges for AU - Dell AU is pretty good with no hiding charges.
      2. The site continue to promoted product it is associated to - well well well.
      3. The site criticised the locking mechanism. - Personal preference. I really liked the tool-less operation.
      4. No ram cooler? - Well, does have a head spreader. Not sure how many of us will install a cooler to the rams.
      5. Litigation? - US is notorious for civil law litigations, they sue for almost anything under the sun.
      6. A photo of burnt components on the mobo - hard to judge by just one picture. One of my old PC started smoking because there were alot of dust trapped in it.

      only valid point being
      7. shxt cooler (hence Cosair H60 is a necessary upgrade for ones shipped with air cooler) - can't argue… those coolers are rubbish at best. I am sure savvy owners already know about Corsair H60.

      other parts where he didnt mention (clearly he didnt care enough to do a meaningful review)
      8. proprietary ram - it will cause someone more grieve than any of the points above, because Dell AU ships a single 16GB ram stick with the R10 and it is almost impossible to pair it.

      Further comment
      9. One an AIO is installed, shifting the fan location makes a nice little air tunnel to draw hot air out of the case (well, only the ram that is producing hot air, so very manageable)… Def far from bad. The R10 with 5800 at home runs app 60-70C under heavy load…

      The "review" is good for a laugh, and should not be used as a reference.

      I do agree that for similar money, better customisation can be made, especially with case size for better and CPU cooling… I have picked up the R10 recently give the crazy GPU pricing, and the pre-build did save me some time. Not mention the legit Windows that came with it. I do also like the Alienware Centre software that updates drivers regularly.

      A disassembly afterthought on the R10 https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/626846

      • +1

        GN says VRM cooler not ram cooler? Usually mobos have heat sinks over it.

        • I see. Heard that when he was pointing at the rams.

          Mobo temp is currently sitting at sweet 20 degree celcius with min. load. Did manage to hit mid 50s whilst running CSGO in background, doing some lightroom work as well video on one of the screens.

          Didn't have any issue whilst stressing the machine for 24 hours too.

          • @Grok: Ta…

            One review

            Outdoors guy
            

            5.0 out of 5 stars Perfect fit for my XPS 8940. Temp dropped 10 deg C at idle
            Reviewed in the United States on July 9, 2021
            Verified Purchase
            Install took about a minute. Remove the protective tape first. Dropped VRM temp from 63 C to 53 C at idle. I didn't do any stress test temp monitoring, but 10 deg C at idle is a good indicator that this is going to help quite a bit. I have the i7-11700 (not the 'K') version. Will be upgrading the CPU heatsink soon.
            Only negative is that it is a little pricey.


            crazy to have idle temp at even 53…. Looks like cooler is the main problem.

          • @Grok: This won't fit.

            You're going to want heatsinks to sit over these areas and the mounting points won't line up.

            Going by some ebay listings for the motherboard there are some that get the vrm heatsinks and some that don't, so you may get lucky.

    • +2

      Wow. That HSF. Just wow. $2600? No thanks.

    • +1

      wow , thats even worse than my expectations. I alwys tell ppl to not buy ALienware junk. But too many fan boys.

  • +8

    Just leaving this here for anyone considering purchasing to digest….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ulhFi5N2hc
    (Gamers Nexus R10 review)

    • +4

      Opps me too slow :D

      • Was watching this morning so had it easily available :)

  • Are these any good for 4K video editing??

    • +1

      Probably need a beefier machine…

    • What are you recording that 4K footage with?

  • Mr. Alienware, if you're reading this, a laptop with 3070 under $2000 please!

    • +4

      I would prefer for $10.

      • Unrealistic.

      • +4

        I would prefer to be paid $2000.

  • +5

    It is simply unreasonable to not having SSD for everything based on their range

    • +2

      Agreed at RRP, at this price it's pretty standard

  • Someone is offloading Ryzen 5 5800 from this machine on eBay:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/144104927487?hash=item218d52b0ff…

    If 5600 non x can be under $300, it would be selling like hot cakes.

    • Some person had ordered a good batch in the last deal… saw the same person (or two ppl) selling GPU-less R10 5800 since April/May. Going for cir $1k

    • Was watching one of the tech review sites on this.

      Apparently it struggle to top 4GHz because there's not enough power going to the chip to meet the 65w TDP.

  • +4

    Is this the same model that half of the US can't get due to new power consumption laws?

    • Yep.

      • lol

        • ouch.

          Can I have that R10 with a 1000W PSU?
          No, sorry, sir. Need to comply with the law.
          But I am thinking of upgrading to an RTX3090.
          No, sorry sir. It is the law.
          What should I do?
          Well, I can upgrade your GPU to a GTX960. It wont stress out your PSU.

    • +1

      Is there a ceiling for power consumption for PC's now? What have I missed?

    • Yes, but not a fault with the product, just this spec has not been certified.
      Those laws relating to idle usage, these laws are confusing so everyone misrepresents them.

  • -6

    Wow, what a POS. I never liked Alienware gear because I found them way too gimmicky, very unattractive and overpriced for the hardware. This machine seems to be a big fat lemon.

    • What alternative is there, can you list?

      • The only way a prebuilt can be justified is when it's cheaper than a DIY build.

        • +1

          Or when they offer actual warranty, and come to your house to fix it. Also you get guaranteed results/benchmarks. Also don't need to pick all the bits ;-)

          I would pick prebuilt over custom every time if they were near the same price (coming from 15 years of building my own PC's)

        • +3

          And this is cheaper than you can buy a 3070 + Ryzen 7 5800 alone, and this is a full PC. It also comes with a warranty.

        • Looks to be sold out

        • That's almost $500 more expensive.

    • +3

      Pretty reasonable price in the current market, I'd probably take a look at it if there was an option to upgrade it to liquid cooling rather than do it myself.

      • +1

        The one linked in this thread is the lower spec model which is what GN reviewed which uses air cooling. I'm surprised though as up until now, I thought all the SKUs for Australia (or at least the ones posted on OzBargain) had the liquid cooling option by default… but that could just be the R11/R12 models which had 3080's.

        • Misleading marketing, picture of water on the box. Technically there is a drop of water in the heat pipe, so they are not wrong.

          • +1

            @UltimateAI: It's not misleading marketing, it's just they use the same box for all specs and all models. You don't get shown the box when you're buying them.

  • +1

    Dark Side of the Moon chassis with Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU Heatsink and 1000W Power Supply

    Hmm unlike the R11/R12s, doesn't have the liquid cooling in this one.

  • +3

    Bought the one with the 10700F and the 3080 when they were on special a few months back and absolutely love it. Zero issues observed so far.

  • +3

    These were a lot more tempting when the system was $500 more than the price of the GPU in it. At $1500 more it’s a hard pass for me.

  • +3

    This was a deal in may when gpu are on the moon, now that they are back to earth, this is way too expensive

  • +4

    $2500 look but $1000 components.

    • +3

      Sorry wait, where can i get the Ryzen 7 and RTX 3070 for $1000?

      • +1

        This is my thinking. Even with the cost of what I want to update, couldn't build myself at the prices I've seen.

    • -1

      More like $2500 with ~$3000 worth of components.

      A 3070 is like $2K, a Ryzen 7 5800 is about $600. Throw in 16GB of RAM, a 512GB NVMe, a 2TB HDD, etc, and it's actually a good deal for the hardware.

      • -1

        3070 is nowhere near 2000 with deals and considering this is a 'deal' too it's completely fair to compare the two. There was a 3070 (LHR) deal just last week for 1200 which it still displays as in stock (possibly outdated but website doesn't show stock).

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/641015

        That+5800x is 1800. There's no way the rest of the components+assembly is anywhere near the other 800 dollars.

        The 5800 is also the OEM version so it has a slightly lower clocks and is limited to 65w tdp so it can't be overclocked in anyway, even then it thermal throttles because it uses a 2 dollar intel cpu cooler in a 2600 dollar build. Also pre-installed bloatware.

        If you cbf making your own PC you'd still be better off with going for something like a techfast build.

        • 3070 LHR != 3070.

          • @MrFunSocks: You'll be hardpressed to find non-lhr in general since the stock is close to running out and being fully replaced by lhr.

            https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/641088

            1400 for non-lhr from last week. Please tell me how aurora is still worth 600 more for an inferior cpu. Can even find 3080s (non-lhr just for you) for under 2k on sale.

            • @JerraJones: What do you mean an inferior CPU? Inferior to what?

              • @MrFunSocks: Dell uses a 5800 (non-x) in this build which is an oem only cpu. It has lower base and lower boost clocks. It's only about 2-3% slower (in ideal airflow which you won't get here) but performance is performance..

  • I wish they had included this in the deal, at around $2700 this would be pretty solid value (admittedly its not far off that with the sale on Dell's website) https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/gaming-and-games/alienware-a…

  • +1

    Can this be used to fry eggs??

  • Cost of the machine should be +$100, as AIO is a must have for the air cooled R10…

  • Admittedly been out of desktop game for a while and back to noob. Looking at CPU and GFX card, seems like that its similar price as the whole system or am I missing something? The Youtube has the cheaper GFX version?

    I saw another review where it came with a liquid cool fan when he unpacked, but this may be a US Dell upgrade option?

    Is the Ram custom or can I chuck in 4 x 16 pairs (Dell site says 4 x slots)?

  • +3

    Negging due to these alienwares being the absolute lowest quality rtx 3000 prebuilds you can probably find.

    Seriously, youre better off with a techfast build.

    • +1

      Are you implying that Techfast is only slightly better?

    • +2

      Kind of depends - are you buying this because you have little no idea or interest about building your own PC? because Dell warranty and support is pretty handy if you're in that boat.

      At RRP you're right, discounted to this level with current part prices they aren't that bad, admittedly, however, if you lack the skill or interest in upgrading the cooling on this it might end up cooking itself.

      • +1

        Even discounted its not at a good price point considering half the parts are generic dell office pc components relabelled.

        DIY is always the best but techfast prebuilds are at least honest and say what brand components they use and are roughly the same price.

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