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Delonghi EC9665M La Specialista Maestro Manual Pump Coffee Machine reduced to $1444 use the 5% off code (only valid today 2/6/21) it reduces the price to $1371.80. Delivery extra
DeLonghi EC9665M La Specialista Maestro $1371.80 + Delivered (Free C&C) @ JB Hi-Fi
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LLombi56 on 02/06/2021 - 13:55 jbhifi.com.au (409 clicks)
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for this price better go with double boiler
Interesting, given it says it has a 'dedicated heating system for milk preparation' which kinda implies dual boiler so a bit misleading IMO. Think I will hold out for a good deal on the Breville Dynamic Duo.
It is likely dual thermoblock, rather than dual boiler.
For this price you can get a lot of things better than this. I had the cheaper la specialista and it was one of the most disappointing purchases of my life
Nice looking machines, and quite easy to use, but already seen some issues with them. For the price you can get European made espresso machines of higher quality.
Can you suggest some European models with an in-built grinder ?
For general home use, will you get any benefit from a dual boiler ?
Thanks
Have a Breville dual boiler at work, but that thing pumps out 10 coffees straight at times. It's handy being able to work on milk while someone works on the coffee. If you're at home by yourself it's probably over kill. If you are only making 1-2 you'd be fine with a single boiler but the delay still means your crema will dissipate a bit.
There is absolutely no advantage to having a built in grinder.
Unless you are absolutely desperate for space.
The Lelit Anita - PL42TEMD looks like a pretty good value to me.
I used to have a heat exchanger at home which can also brew and steam but over time it feels like an overkill so I sold it and got a single boiler instead. If you are on a budget, or you're just got into prosumer stuff, you definitely don't need to go for a dual boilerAs below, the Lelit Anita if you really want a built in grinder, but I always recommend keeping them separate whenever possible. The only reason I can ever see to get one is if you're low on bench space - but you can get some pretty compact grinders and machines anyway.
If you're OK with a single boiler, you could get a Gaggia Classic + Baratza Sette 270 for roughly the same price as this. To save a few hundred you could get a cheaper Breville Smart Grinder, or for a nice upgrade you could import a Eureka Mignon Specialita for a few hundred more (about $650).
Stepping up coffee machines you could get a Rancilio Silvia or Lelit Anna at around $1,000.
Next step up would be a HX machine like the Nuova Simonelli Oscar II - which would be my personal recommendation in the price range, at around $1450. Next step gets you up into the $2,000 range.
Advantage of HX & dual boiler machines is they can steam and make coffee at the same time. Steam on the Rancilio & Lelit is pretty good, but it's slower to make a coffee because you have to do one step at a time.
The Breville dual boiler machines mentioned here make a fine coffee too, and offer better value than the DeLonghi, but they aren't any better quality. Made to a budget, usually break down after 5-6 years, etc. I don't recommend them personally because I prefer buying a quality machine once, but they absolutely have a market, and you may be happy with the idea of it being disposable.
that's a lot of money for a thermoblock coffee machine. definitely go with the breville dual boiler which is around $1k
The only caveat to the above is thermoblock will warm up quick say 10mins, while a boiler will take >15-20mins (just turn it off beforehand, it's not a big deal).However, the breville or any other dual boiler is going to get you better coffee (taste/extraction)
I got myself a dual boiler (not breville) and haven't looked back, taste is levels above and already recouped cost from compared to takeaways during covid till now
Sounds good… Which model have you gone with ?
I actually went with a heat exchanger (single boiler) - my bad on the post above.
I went with the Lelit Mara X $2.2k - it was best bang for buck - two PIDs to control brew and boiler temp.
My choices were basically:
- Breville Dual Boiler ($1k) then
- Lelit Mara X $2.2k (heat exchanger)
- otherwise you'll be spending closer to $3k+ for traditional dual boilers
Be aware this machine's grinder does not have a huge range of grind settings.
In short - no good reason to buy this over a Breville. Either an Oracle (if you are willing to spend more), Dual Boiler (which will be about the same once you add a grinder, but lack some of the ease of use on auto tamping and milk frothing) or the Bambino Plus (again, no auto tamping).
DeLonghi advertisement department: lets' throw in as many Italian nonsense phrases to see if it attracts buyers.
For this amount of money, I'd get a separate grinder. Having a built in grinder is not an advantage, as when one part breaks, you'd have to service and possibly toss out the entire machine. This grinder is probably equivalent to the smart grinder in grind quality, which is regularly at <$200. A Breville dual boiler has better temperature stability and is also usually <$1000. For someone who cares for coffee and wants to keep a machine for a long time, get one with a copper boiler, eg. a single boiler Rancilio Silvia, or better a Nuovo Simonelli Oscar with a HX boiler. Both are > $1000 new, but also regularly available used at way less than $1000.
Just don't spend more than $1000 on a machine that uses a thermoblock / non-copper boiler etc. You will just have expensive repair costs in a few years time, or potentially just have to chuck the machine in the bin.
At this price point why not just get a Lelit Anita PL42TEMD? It's cheaper, made in Italy with quality material that lasts for years, it has a pretty good built in grinder, a PID to control boiler temp and an adjusted 9 bar OPV, and a 57mm portafilter that is more closer to a commercial size.
I got the original machine for half of this price and I can't see how they can justify the price increase for the "extras".
I have been very happy with the original machine. I really like the tamping station - it is so much cleaner and easier than a manual tamp. There was a leaking problem which is very common and was solved with a redesigned drip tray which they shipped out for free.
Sure there are machines with controls which have a million different combinations over all the steps of brewing but this (older) machine is easy enough for the mother in law to use if she needs to and gives a great coffee considering.
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I like the idea of the tamping station and I currently have a Delonghi ECAM.650.75 that has worked well for 4 years despite my neglect !! and keep thinking I may need to replace it one day
I wonder what the difference between this and the 9355.M model is as it's 1/2 the price ? 2 guages !! the Delonghi web site specs don't show much detail when comparing them
Just be aware this is not a double boiler and you cant brew coffee and steam milk at the same time.