Hi everyone,
I know this is not a new topic, but why do a lot of people look at options of moving to QLD?
To me the house market and job market doesn't seem to be too cheap either.
Just here to clarifications
Cheers
Moving to Queensland? - Why?
Yaren24 on 26/05/2021 - 09:27
Last edited 26/05/2021 - 09:35 by 1 other user
Last edited 26/05/2021 - 09:35 by 1 other user
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@darkmoss: Lived mostly inner-south my whole life, Woolloongabba/Annerley. Living in West End in 2016 I remember a specific Saturday where I had to find an open supermarket after 6 and we had to rush off to catch New Farm Woolworths before it closed at 7pm. Looks like they've pushed the hours out since then so most inner city supermarkets are open 10/9pm Sat/Sun but still a lot of suburban locations are closed at 7pm on Sundays.
@cheap what about Sydney ?
Can't comment on Syd
It's more than 4mths! I think from April to October the weather is great. Winter days are perfect.
I have lived in Bris for 19yrs. Grew up in Adl and spent a yr working jn Sydney. The traffic here is still manageable, can get to city in 15mins, gold coast in 40mins and airport in 20mins. Both of our work is <10mins drive from home…. not wasting hrs in commute every week.
There is a lot to do here, many places to explore and we are still finding new things to do. Gold Coast, Northern NSW, Sunshine Coast and out West are all close by. Try going to Great Ocean Rd during school holidays and it's impossible to get a booking but here, we have a lot of hotels and resorts enough for Qlders and Interstate travellers. There is a lot foreign investment still.
Soon Brisbane will have Queens Wharf which houses the Star Casino and Rosewood Hotel with a sky garden similar to Marina Bay Sands. The architecture is amazing.
If you love outdoors, there are plenty of nature explore, waterfalls, mountains, etc owning a boat is affordable here, a pontoon property in Jacobs Well can be had for $1mil. Can take the boat to Straddie or even Tangalooma.
The food scene is incredible. Can never keep up with all the new restaurants, especially all the amazing eats in the gold coast. Try Burleigh Heads, my fav beach.
We are going to Noosa for a weekend in a few weeks. Spending next school holidays in Evans Head.
I'm not surprise by the influx of migration
Glad you like it, it is a bit of varieties to live in QLD to expose a bit of everything.
Never was a fan of the heat, but having lived in North Queensland for the last 3 years I'd choose a hot humid wet season over a freezing cold southern winter. Your body acclimatises somewhat to the hotter weather…
Daylight hours depend on the season, some of the year we get daylight later into the evening than the southern states.
I found it way easier to handle the stable 30-35c weather of FNQ than the very unstable (one day 25, 43c the next) summers in Sydney.
And although im originally from a snowy country, I find Sydney winters much harder to handle, because you are cold 24/7 (indoors and outdoors), compared to being cold only when outdoors.Yep the wet season was surprisingly to acclimatise to, although I’m sure if I worked outdoors I’d think differently.
We are now already freezing when it’s averaging 25° each day, not sure how I’ll ever go back to Melbourne.
lol no heater?
and gets dark so early
It is so we can have longer night life hours !!
Only 24 in a day so make night life the longest!!
Plus we have Annastacia Pałaszczuk!
(Yeah, stay out ya bastards, :) )
:)
Probably the biggest reason I'm not moving to Qld.
Yeah I know what you mean but all the State Gruppenfurers seem cut from the same cloth these days.
Gladys seems capable of running a state with moderate covid numbers without shutting down.
But yeah.@reactor-au: Wasn't NSW locked up recently?
I try to avoid as much of the BS as possible so not sure who's doing what ATM.
@EightImmortals: I was there in quarantine at the time, it wasn't the worst of lockdowns nor the longest.
@EightImmortals: No; last NSW lockdown was restricted to the Northern Beaches. Nothing to the extent of Victorian lockdowns. The only recent thing that happened was BBQ guy and his wife got COVID-19, but that was it.
Source: NSW resident
@reactor-au: Uhh, don't forget the disaster that was the Ruby Princess. Also the whole passing the buck that happened afterwards. They did seem to learn from that though.
@cheng2008: TBF that was early days and did not result in the problems that occurred further south. Pout is NSW, unlike one of its neighbours, learned the lesson. If I was to rate capability re Covid, it would be NT, NSW, Qld, WA and then Vic, and no ones cares about Tasmania and mainland Tasmania anyway.
@cheng2008: Everyone forgot that already. Since Gladys been called world's best contact tracers for covid
@reactor-au: Also released a boatload of covid infected pensioners into Australia.
But each to their own.
Thank you staying where you are. LNP QLD is a absolute disgrace of a party in QLD, LNP is a far-right party and have a fetish for Joh Bjelke-Petersen dictatorship.
I'd take Joh back over the current clownshow (either party) any day of the week. :)
How…tribal of you.
I would recommend a good strategy is to assume any politician, regardless of affiliation, is a scumbag not to be trusted. You will avoid disillusionment that way.@entropysbane: Tribal? Can you tell me where the current PM, last 2 and the current premier in NSW sit? I am over east side of Sydney f——ts ruling this country. I don't want them coming to Queensland.
I would rather half of New Zealand live here than 1/32 of Northshore yuppies in Brisbane.
Good point, we have an incompetent state government but still miles ahead of the useless clowns down in Victoria.
They love lock downs =) more time for ps5
Honestly, the last time i played this much was back in uni
KFC hot n spicy any day of the year
/threadand MOS burgers!
So dose all other states only hot n spicy on promo? I personal have not KFC original in years.
Houses are way bigger, not shoeboxes. Weather is better. Traffic is better. PT is less packed and the train lines actually make sense (all lines meet at a central point). Less competition for IT based roles I’ve found and job prospects are less of a thing now that a lot of companies are taking on interstate hires with remote work now the norm.
The big one though currently is the fact they’ve cruised through the pandemic with minimal lockdowns. I knew a lot of people moved to the GC from Melbourne to avoid lockdowns. Also a huge proportion of inner city Melbourne residents are interstate transplants, a lot of those people went home when it became a better option or their work dried up and they were forced to return.
I look at the situation now in Vic, I forsee there might be more people moving to Qld, just my 2c
It's very tempting
Is this going to be like in the US where all the lefties from coastal cities spread their cancer to other states?
Melbourne and some parts of Sydney are already too much for this country to bear.
It's all going to be relative…
The question is so broad that you can point to almost anything and say that's the reason why.
Beautiful one day !
Perfect the next !
😂😂😂- Climate
- Climate
- Climate.
Housing market was/is still cheaper than Melbourne/Sydney.
Boomer's have squeezed every last drop of money out of those market via their investment properties and Queensland was the next logical step.good point!
Just leave a trail of mortgage stressed properties in their wake.
Ready to destroy another generation's hopes and dreams
Oh, you need a poll… Any how.
Moved to Brisbane in 2011, then Gold Coast in 2013 and bought a house in Burleigh in 2014.
Pros:
- Great weather in the cooler months
- you get more for what you pay for real estate. It’s not cheap but the land size, inclusions and location will be better than the equivalent $ in Syd/Mel
- potential for shorter commutes if you can find a job/house in the right spotCons
- gross weather in the warmer months, seriously humid and uncomfortable
- less job opportunities, particularly regional Qld
- commutes are still awful if going far eg Gold Coast to Brisbane
- more racism and general backward thinking
- less accessible entertainment, the arts etc
- more expensive and less diverse dining
- weird shopping hour restrictions on weekends and public holidaysAll becoz we always have a better arsekicking Origin team
I've lived Central Aus, Adelaide, Melbourne, pretty much all corners of Vic, Sydney and now a few spots in Qld. I've also travelled all the coasts except Tas.
Pretty much the second I got as far north as Noosa on my way up to coast to move for my first Qld job I realised it was the state for me. Compared to Melbourne and Sydney particularly, everyone seems in a better mood in public. I genuinely believe seasonal depression is a thing and in the southern cities it seems the majority of the seasons are sad lol.
Weather isn't everything though, as someone that loves the outdoors and climbing/exploring the aesthetics up here are really only matched (and beaten) by northern WA, which logistically is not an option to live.
The only real issue i have with qld is that once you get north of Rockhampton all the torturously beautiful beaches are pretty much off limits due to crocs and jellyfish. That said, the literally endless amount of waterfalls and creeks everywhere make it hard to justify complaining!
Finally, I see QLD as having perfect locations for each stage of life:
-In the young adult stage (me), the central and northern parts of qld offer easy access to high incomes via mining and civil.
-Young couples/middle aged would find Brisbane/Maroochydore area perfect as its got cheap and easy access to all the pacific islands and the standard city amenities.
-Finally, retirement in Cooroy type areas would be great as its got that sleep rainforrest/jungle and small town vibe with easy access to all the food etc. of the sunshine coast.Finally, looking at it from the opposite directions, the things I miss most about Melb and Syd are the food and cultural festivals. Personally, I would rather have continual access to natural beauty and keep fancy food etc as special events for when I do travel back south for family. Eg I will typically eat cheapily up north then go all out on fancy restaurants when I'm in Melbourne.
I don’t think it’s s.a.d. as what seems like half of Melbourne will act like overly-emotional douchebags even in the middle of summer. In winter you can head to a lot of the rural areas or a number of suburban areas and the majority of people are friendly and happy even if they do complain that it’s cold when it’s 9°.
I moved to such a suburb when forced to be a city slicker and when going for walks in reserves you say hello to most people you see and sometimes stop to chat about their dog or some other trivial local topic.Still cheaper easy just fly in Mel or Syd or brisbane for weekend enjoy bit come home to relax 20min city i live in north Queensland and love it.
Yeah agreed, that's what I do. That said my stint in central Queensland had expensive flights as mining towns always bump up the prices, eg 800 return to Melbourne by default
We were in Mlb recently and tried all the must eat places and I honestly found that it wasn't all that special.
There are plenty of fancy and non fancy options here that are not inferior to other States. I can give you loads of tips. I always recommend good eats to friends that visit and after tveir visit, they want to move here!
What you won't see here is a very busy CBD like in Mlb on a saturday night. It was like everyone was in the city, every where was packed to the rafters. Here, ppl like to congregate in suburbias. You need to know a local to find the hot spots. It's too widespread and too many options. Brisbane CBD area is very quiet on a sat night. Similar to Sydney.
Mate I'll take food tips for anywhere, anytime haha. A friend of mine got me onto the Good Food guide so I'm just very slowly working through that now when I do trips south.
Moved from Sydney to SEQ a few years ago. Sydney could never afford to buy a decent house and start a family. Brisbane is/was cheap to buy a nice place comparatively to salary. Plenty of good job opportunities in SEQ + less competition. It doesn't feel like a big city and while commuting can be a pain for some routes (e.g. Brisbane to GC), its nothing compared to the gridlock of Sydney and Melbourne. Its pretty much always sunny and hot (sometimes too hot but thats what the swimming pools are for). You also have Gold Coast and Sunshine coast which people travel from all over the world for their holidays.
The big win for me is that people here value their family time and time outside of work more. There are far less people who work the crazy hours and are in the rat race. It's probably not the place to be if you are in a younger stage of life but for those with families etc it suits well. Personally moving here was the best decision my wife and I ever made.
Moved from Melbourne to Brisbane in 2015 then back to Melbourne in 2020. Heres my feedback for Brisbane.
Pros:
* Housing is cheaper especially if you look out in the suburbs.
* Flea Markets galore
* Great weather during May - August - Mid 20's
* Salaries are the same or tad less.
* Close proximity to Gold Coast/Sunshine CoastCons:
* Groceries tend to be higher in prices compared to Melb especially seafood.
* Humid in Summer
* Expensive public transport.
* No free travel before on public transport.
* Distance to shops isnt always close proximity like Melbourne suburbs. (less developed)
* Some suburbs the infrastructure is terrible. Need a car to drive to train station or bus station.
* Not many jobs available so hard to move around.
* Everything is closed at 5pm except woolies & coles. 4pm on Sundays too.Fully agree, they just going to another 7 days of lockdown..in Vic
Any day I can go to work in shorts is a good day for me.
Id rather it be to hot than too cold, and love wicked storms in summer (until they hit your house)
Actually is handy in some ways having no day light saving, but either way this one doesnt bother me.Crows do suck though, but owl hooter solves this
A dog will solve the crows
My mate recently relocated to Brisbane, bought a $2M mansion. He can WFH so having a nice house was important to him.
$2M is a lot of money, wish I have the amount of money, it must be a beautiful home!
$2M is a lot of money, wish I have the amount of money
Very few have … for a house that is.
Most have a big fat mortgage instead …
Yes, it's good to be wealthy
I'm from qld moving to Sydney soon, not so many jobs here as an engineer.
It really depends what sort of engineer you are, what sort of work you want to do and if you are prepared to live regional. Lots of engineering jobs in mining, agriculture and heavy industry in Qld.
Depends what type of engineer you are. If you can work in the tech sector you would be in high demand at the moment.
Because they don't want to move to Perth, so they settle on Brisbane :P
why don't we have kingsland?
Where else would you go?
;-p
Queensland’s full though
Full? Have you seen regional Qld? i don't think they are all filled
Nah, whole state is full. Nothing to see here. No room for Southerners. Bugger off back down South… ;)
Pauline Hanson sign at border (profanity) off we're full
For Brisbane, these are my analysis why I should move there if I have family with kids.
1. I can afford a big house (~400m2) with a nice neighborhood (around North Lakes). The distance to city and airport is ~30km and house price is less than $1M. As a comparison, I have to go around Leppington or Schofields area in Sydney ~50km distance from Sydney CBD.
2. Private schools are cheaper than Sydney based on what I read in SMH article.
3. Gold Coast is nearby. Imagine buying a yearly pass to the theme parks and your children will be so happy.
4. Commute time will be a big item where you don't want to spend most of your life in commuting.
5. I believe you can save more cash with less mortgage.
6. Fresh produce is better and cheaper in QLD.
7. I love Southbank very much. Outdoor live music, water park/city beach, art market, river view. I can't find this in Sydney.
8. Free council parking in Brisbane CBD Roma Street on weekends :D
9. With $1M you can build a house with pool.
10. There is a 24 hour bar/restaurant in the middle of Queen St mall (Jimmy's On The Mall)In conclusion, this is all about how do you spend your TIME and $$$.
+1 :) Couldn't agree more, it's up to people to choose their pathways, $1M can buy you a really nice house. It is a booming city in the future
Don't forget 11. 24/7 Pancake's at Pancake Manor, they serve cheap drinks too but I mostly just remember the $5 nips of Tequila that a co-worker was buying the table.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1BZTmII60k&ab_channel=7NEWS…
7 News just said the best burger in Australia
re: #2 … yes private schools are cheaper but unlike Vic many of the state schools are actually half decent too.
Totally agree! Some QLD state schools are using International Baccalaureate curriculum.
Good analysis although not sure I agree on North Lakes (not really part of Brisbane) - there are Brisbane City Council suburbs that can still get a nice house in nice area for <$1m.
Interesting. Which areas?
I have taken into account of Costco North Lakes too (fuel and grocery). But I do hear friends in Brisbane, North Lakes is far away.
If Costco Coomera opens, maybe I will consider that area haha.
Northlakes? Nothing much to eat there. Sthside is way better. Nthlakes is nice area though. We have an IP there. Gympie road is a nightmare or alternative is toll rd.
I highly recommend Mt Gravatt area and for a nice estate, probably Rochedale Estates. Close to both the Gateway motorway to airport, Sunshine Coast, M4 takes you all the way to Sydney thru GC,and Logan motorway to Ipswich and out West. It's literally 5mins to each motorway and all the best food is here. You will get the mcmansions and higher quality living.
We live here on 750m block and I think 350sqm living gated house. Our kids go to private school. Cost around around $35k pa for 3 kids but there's 50% discount for 3rd child and 2 of them received scholarships. It's a beautiful prep to 12 school. We work less than 10mins drive from home.
There's really no way we would live anywhere else. It dawned on us that we are so blessed during this pandemic with Qld tough covid rules. We have travelled close to home and there are still so many things to do and new places to explore.
The only thing I really love that we do not have here are all the beautuful rock pools along NSW coastlines which is so unique. Otherwise we really do not lack anything.
What a life you have got there. Thank you for sharing.
The clientele / people. Living in sydney i find people have become less personable and more rude over the years. As well as the kinds of people i guess.
I'd say QLD is better when Victoria now - we are heading into our FOURTH lockdown!
But the job market in QLD sounds pretty terrible from what i hear
I dare say if it didnt have family in Melbourne i'd be moving to Perth over anywhere else - Good weather, Cheap housing, good wages, great beaches and F**k all traffic
Some sectors of the job market have crazy demand in Brisbane at the moment. There has been huge upward movement in salaries in the tech sector due to demand and it hasn’t shown signs of slowing down. Retail and hospitality are struggling to find staff too.
There has been huge upward movement in salaries in the tech sector due to demand
Really??? I need to ask for a pay rise!
Lockdowns are only a temporary thing, it’s not as if it’s going to be an ongoing thing. Seems odd to move your life just because of a temporary situation, unless you have no work of course!
I think it takes awhile to recover even after 7 days of lockdown, plenty of people moving to Qld for different lifestyles.
You might be in for a surprise re: lockdowns.
If you mean that lockdowns will go on forever, I can't see that happening. We'll ultimately get to a stage where if you're fully vaccinated and wearing a mask and follow all the guidelines (keep distance, sneeze into elbow, etc), then you can just go about your day. We have about 12 months to go until that can happen though, as some current variants partially escape current vaccines (eg Pfizer only ~75% effective against Indian variant), so we'll all need moderna boosters next year against variants.
And for people who refuse to get vaccinated & wear a mask, after all that time, I don't know what happens to them, and frankly I no longer care. I've already reached the "you do you" stage, so people who wilfully choose to not listen to the science, don't get listened to when exposed to the consequences of their choices.
If you’re casually racist and never quite fit in in other states, Qld might suit you.
Is this like real racists, like people who actually think lesser of other racial groups, or Is it a racist as in "that guy disagrees with me, he's a racist"?
Hard to tell these days.
Is thinking less of other people just because of their race not racism?
It IS. What I'm saying is that very few people who are called racist today actually think lesser of other races. In reality, racism doesn't even exist - thinking that other races are inferior human beings is more accurately described as stupidity. It's biologically, physically, scientifically, and medically incorrect. Race does not determine ability or intelligence. Everybody, except a few very dumb people, knows this.
What you'll find is that most "racists" today are not racist at all, they've just been called racists by those who scream the loudest.
This extends to systems or processes being called racist too. Eg - the police force is racist because Blacks are being disproportionately arrested. The criminal law system is racist because Blacks are more likely to be sent to prison etc. Verily I say unto thee, statistical disparity in outcomes is not racism either.
thinking that other races are inferior human beings is more accurately described as stupidity
I didn’t want to put too fine a point on it, but sure, Queenslanders are more stupid than the rest of the country. Queensland is the Florida of Australia.
@AustriaBargain: I'm assuming you mean to say that Queenslanders are, indeed, racist then?
Can you provide some specific examples of this racist behaviour? Having lived through intense racism and hatred during a war as a child, I would say I'm pretty good at spotting it to this day. But I've never noticed much racism in Australia. A few isolated incidents sure (like any country), but full-blown collective racism? I would challenge that. The only people who say this are the media, and I'm pretty sure even they don't believe it.
It's not Victoria!
They move to qld for the real footy.
If there’s job in Tasmania I would stay here.
But there isn’t, jobless since 2017
@Cheaplikethebird: That's not even remotely true. They're open til 9