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Gigabyte BRIX Barebone Kit - Intel Pentium J5005 $139 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Umart

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Gigabyte BRIX Barebone Kit - Intel Pentium J5005 $139 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Umart
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ricol on 04/03/2021 - 23:03 umart.com.au (2482 clicks)

Saw this from Umart email, seems a good deal considering NUC7CJYH is around $200 which CPU is J4005, this one has a better CPU.

Specifications

Intel® Pentium® Processor J5005 2.8GHz, 4 core (TDP 10W)
2‎ x SO-DIMM DDR4 slots 2400MHz Max. 8GB
HDMI2.0a 4096 x 2160 @ 60 Hz
1‎ x M.2 slot (2280_storage) PCIe X2/SATA
1 x PCIe M.2 NGFF 2230 A-E key slot occupied by the WiFi+BT card

Front I/O
1‎ x USB3.0
1 x USB3.0 type C
1 x headphone jack with MIC

Back I/O
1‎ x HDMI(2.0a)
1 x mini DisplayPort (1.2a)
2 x USB 3.0
1 x RJ45
1 x DC-In
1 x Kensington lock slot

Storage
Supports 2.5" HDD/SSD, 7.0/9.5 mm thick (1 x 6 Gbps SATA 3)

Computing Gigabyte HTPC

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  • Yanoflies on 04/03/2021 - 23:07
    +8

    I should have bought this instead of a Pi 4.

    • ricol on 04/03/2021 - 23:16

      good point, I was thinking about Pi 400.

      • tonyjzx on 04/03/2021 - 23:29
        +1

        Problem is a full Pi kit is overpriced.

        When these things are available for $139 then they make no sense unless you need some embedded type application but then you'd know what's up if you were in that position.

        • netsurfer on 05/03/2021 - 01:25
          +5

          You do need to add the cost of RAM modules (~$50) and delivery ($11). You need an SSD as well (though with Pi 4, you need at least a microSD card). The power usage, while low, is still higher than Pi 4.

          Wireless-AC 3168 is disappointing. It's Bluetooth 4.2 with 1x1 WiFi config. Don't get me wrong, it is much more powerful and most retailers are charging crazy price for Pi 4 kit (especially 8GB kit).

          • Indomietable on 05/03/2021 - 08:30

            @netsurfer: This also does not have HDMI CEC (~ $70 )

          • Bedgrub on 05/03/2021 - 08:38

            @netsurfer: Unless you’re running full embedded or off grid / vanlife, 10W is nothing.

            • netsurfer on 05/03/2021 - 10:01

              @Bedgrub: Idle: 8.8W
              Playing 4K HEVC video: 15.1W
              Prime95 stress test: 22 W
              Prime95 stress test and Cinebench OpenGL test simultaneously: 21.8 W

              That's quite good for an Intel based low power CPU. Pi 4, idle is 2.9W. It really depends on what you want to do. Is the limited CPU performance on Pi 4 enough? Both products need extra items before you can actually use it. Also, most sellers are charging a premium for Pi 4 (Pi 4 is really over-priced here).

  • pkh on 04/03/2021 - 23:33
    +1

    Anyone recommend this as a HTPC?

    • radiochaos on 04/03/2021 - 23:36
      +5

      J5005 DOSE NOT support HDR, so if your TV support that you might need to looking for something more powerful. Otherwise it will be fine.

      • daft009 on 05/03/2021 - 08:56

        So for HDR then the shield is the other low cost choice?

        • radiochaos on 05/03/2021 - 13:06
          +2

          shield pro is the best all round plex box imo

          • daft009 on 05/03/2021 - 13:16

            @radiochaos: thanks, have one for the projector.
            didnt want to buy another one for the downstairs TV.
            still rocking an old N2820 NUC for 1080p stuff. tv is old 1080p plasma which refuses to die

  • MSG on 04/03/2021 - 23:33

    Any deals for cheap SODIMM? Best I can find right now is $47.98 for 2x 4GB DDR4 2400 (Patriot Signature Series), not sure how good this is

    https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B074Q1LM44/

    • Yummy on 06/03/2021 - 12:59

      Missed out the sale, should have ordered them couple days back.

      I can only find this very cheap 2666 ver for $12 from Megabuy but the shipping kills it. Good for QLD local pick up though.

  • stephendt on 04/03/2021 - 23:46
    +1

    This CPU is not terrible, but not great. It's about on par with a 1st generation Intel Core i5 in terms of performance. If you value bang for buck you can get a refurbished desktop PC for about this sort money, which will include a Windows licence and a much more powerful Intel Core i5 quad core CPU.

    https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/16000172?baseli…

    • Oofy Doofy on 04/03/2021 - 23:52
      +20

      These are small footprint and low power use, something a desktop refurb can't match.

      • tonyjzx on 04/03/2021 - 23:57

        3.6?

        can you attach a desktop to a vesa slot on a monitor?

        to be fair, 8Gb max is kind of eh… but I would be thinking that the cpu would have an issue juggling more than an 8gb workload.

      • squidz on 05/03/2021 - 00:35

        what would be the idle consumption?

        • Oofy Doofy on 05/03/2021 - 01:19

          Less than 9w on 240v in Australia.

      • stephendt on 05/03/2021 - 01:42

        An Optiplex 9020 is still quite compact though I guess, which idles around 20w

      • desync on 05/03/2021 - 02:03
        +2

        ebay 2nd hand

        lenovo m92p, m93p m700, etc or hp mini g1, g2

        much better solutions

        ~6w

        • kehuehue on 05/03/2021 - 05:50
          -1

          Are these good for mining? Assuming i replace the power and add pci risers

          • killingtime on 05/03/2021 - 08:24

            @kehuehue: LOL

          • lorikeet on 05/03/2021 - 09:41

            @kehuehue: They usually only have have one PCI port in mini PCI or m2 format. So you can only have one GPU. And need a special riser for those ports.

            I used to mine with a Thinkpad X200 motherboard (laptop). It has 3 mini PCI ports so I could connect 3 GPU.

        • iceborg on 05/03/2021 - 09:16
          +2

          Agreed - just got an m93p tiny on ebay with the i7, 16GB RAM and 250GB HDD for $245

          • Nickools on 05/03/2021 - 10:19

            @iceborg: How'd you get one so cheap? Everytime i look there are only i5 and 8gb ram for that price.

    • OnlineShopper123 on 05/03/2021 - 01:23
      -1

      Wdym, it runs Cyberpunk at 120fps

  • Johnny-Kun on 04/03/2021 - 23:48
    +3

    Would this be a good Plex server, able to transcode outside local network?

    • [Deactivated] on 04/03/2021 - 23:57

      I think so. This CPU is faster than the J4125 in the DS920+.

    • azza10 on 05/03/2021 - 00:33
      +2

      Yes, definitely. I can do 4K on my j4105 using hw transcode.

      Actually am looking at this to make up another budget server.

    • toliman on 05/03/2021 - 01:43
      -8

      The UHD 605 set isn’t bad, but the RAM will be expensive (sic). It probably won’t be able to display 4K video or HD audio via HDMI, but connected to a NAS or NVR, or tie to a cloud storage drive via rsync, acting as a bridge and local cache/backup for media/security camera storage.

      As a media server, it won’t have a lot of throughput for storage, but it can transcode if there’s a split between file/media cache and working storage for the temporary encoded files.

      PlexDrive, Gooby, Cloudbox mediabox, or PGBlitz are services that automate a cloud plex system (after Plex Cloud was removed)

      As a headless server, it’s a good idea to have it tied to an automatic management and self-update system, especially because Plex can crash and become hard to reboot, or deal with data loss if the crash/update is a bad update/crash. You’ll learn quite a bit about the weakness of Plex once it breaks down IME, which used to be 3-5x a year, but is now around 2x a year.

      Especially if you add TV and PVR features (sic). Transcoding and TV can be seamless or just stop working, sic. So having a way to backup, reboot or restart Plex nicely is necessary, especially because the transcoders can crash separate from Plex, or the intel hardware acceleration can also fail to work if the transcode is still running or didn’t close properly.

      Plex, also tends to chew up/rescan cold storage to check the data isn’t damaged, which is a necessary evil for SSD, as the data can silently ‘rot’ over several months, which is typically hidden or recovered by rewriting data that was repaired and recovered in the background. This is normal for SSD, but it’s often forgotten or dismissed.

      Magnetic storage often requires a refresh and rescan for that reason, that it seems reliable until you have a ~20 year old drive that’s inaccessible or has hidden damaged files, even if unplugged.

      The advantage of a cheap 1/2tb QLC SSD is that the network cloud cache will empty the access cache slowly over time once it’s not being used, and run media services, as well as a backup for video recordings. You do have to tweak the rsync cache age, but it’s enough to cache 4k movies that are stored on a Google Drive (or other cloud storage) at a watchable speed throughput, emulating a mounted drive.

      As for the performance, here’s a review of a similar setup from asrock

      https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/a0w3aj/j5005_nuc_with…

      And a video review of the ‘cheaper’ J4005 and J5005 from LON.tv https://youtu.be/o82NWFnoDZw?t=182

      • cumova on 05/03/2021 - 06:57
        +2

        Can you do my setup please?

      • D3m3ntia on 05/03/2021 - 07:41
        +6

        Do you know why journalists add sic? (sic)

        • alcadive on 05/03/2021 - 07:52
          +2

          I don't think they do. (sic)

        • aoiro on 05/03/2021 - 08:45
          +3

          Because they are fully sic (sic), bro?

        • Paul B on 05/03/2021 - 10:44
          +2

          In Latin sic means "just as" - quoted verbatim including errors

      • deme on 05/03/2021 - 08:59
        +4

        This is wrong.

        Plex rescans for metadata changes, new files and to generate thumbnails. It doesn't do this to "refresh magnetic storage".

        Flash memory degrades predictably over time due to voltage loss. For SSDs this may be in the years. Not months are you say and having a device powered up is enough to let the drive do its job.

        SSDs do a whole bunch of magic behind the scenes like wear levelling, write whitening, and error correction due to the quantum mechanics involved the raw data you observe off a ssd can flip bits in adjacent rows, SSDs don't just return the raw bits read otherwise it you would get errors all the time.

        Just like ram you the OS doesn't need to refresh each cell the chips do that for you.

        For magnetic media the drive take care of most of the stuff just like a SSD.

        If you care about absolute data integrity keep multiple backups.

  • Morien on 05/03/2021 - 00:37

    So what extra stuff do we need to buy to get this working?

    HDD
    Ram?

  • kartoffelviking on 05/03/2021 - 00:55
    +1

    Price on website now seems to be $169.

    EDIT: My bad. $169 seems to be "special" (SA) Croydon price…

  • raging on 05/03/2021 - 01:32

    Could some wizards confirm if this is suited to be a pc for my meeting rooms at work to use with a 4k TV?

    • netsurfer on 05/03/2021 - 01:38

      HDR is not supported, but I doubt you need to playback 4K HDR in a meeting room. The included WiFi chipset isn't good (speed wise).

      Personally, I would get something better for a 4K TV (unless that TV doesn't support HDR). Laptop might make more sense (are you going to get a wireless keyboard and mouse for this?).

      • raging on 05/03/2021 - 01:58

        Yup. It will be standalone to each tv. The small size makes it less noticeable which is a plus.

        There's are lan ports so wifi isn't a big concern.

        Would be interested in a decent wireless 4k option if it existed.

    • Morien on 05/03/2021 - 01:40

      What will the workflow be? What will you do on it?

      • raging on 05/03/2021 - 02:00

        Browser based interaction, teams, video and PowerPoint's?

        Legit business use during meetings only.

        • DingoBlue on 05/03/2021 - 07:31
          +1

          I’d just use a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter.

    • toliman on 05/03/2021 - 02:39

      As a display/streaming box or “browser” PC ie running zoom meetings or loading PowerPoint, sure.

      Compared to a 6-8 year old NUC Desktop, it’s arguably better. Not a fast workstation, but it can single-task well enough. The Chipset is probably used in AIO or budget thin PCs and it shows with the lack of options and expansion slots.

      Video camera /conference performance would be iffy due to the low RAM, but it would be reliable enough to share the 2-3Gb of VRAM for a 4k30 or 4k60 TV display.

      It might be possible to load it up as a client display / digital signage or kiosk client for streaming video/web content, for security cameras or websites, server stats, advertising etc.

      But I can’t find out if gigabyte added the HDMI CEC that is on the intel NUC, it probably won’t have CEC if it’s not explicit, or it doesn’t have an adapter port.

      That would make it a useful kiosk or signage client, since it could turn the TV on and off with a schedule, or sequence of IR commands (via a broadlink wifi IR device or Logitech harmony sic.) which can be set to switch hdmi inputs etc.

      • deme on 05/03/2021 - 09:05

        the 2-3Gb of VRAM for a 4k30 or 4k60 TV display

        You don't need even 512mb of ram for your gpu to decode 4k you'll just need an IP core in your gpu/soc to do hardware decoding and it'll be fine.

    • slimpickings on 05/03/2021 - 03:04
      +1

      A few years ago I used lenovo m93p's for the same thing at work. Fine with 4k screens, same form factor. If you're willing to spend $200+ on kitting out one of these I'd pick up a lenovo tiny a generation or two newer than mine.

      • ashanrath on 05/03/2021 - 09:49

        Problem is the hardware encode/decode support on the newer Intel chips. Even the Celerons are hardware accellerated for 4k x265. Doing that via software is just not practical on these cheaper chips, new or old.

  • desync on 05/03/2021 - 02:00

    just buy a m92p tiny 2nd hand off ebay

    so much better than these gimped nucs

    • raging on 05/03/2021 - 02:07

      Can you please show me the way sense I!

    • ashanrath on 05/03/2021 - 02:49
      +1

      Depends what you want to use it for. As a media server these are much more efficient because the newer Intel chips support hardware transcoding, while the older generations had to rely on software which takes much more grunt.

      • [Deactivated] on 05/03/2021 - 07:21

        These kick ass for home assistant, and they fact they run off DC is convenient too.
        At this price I’m upgrading my old J1900 to get NVME and more than double CPU performance

  • Felixrising on 05/03/2021 - 02:02

    I'm currently using a rpi4 as my main Citrix workspace client. Perfect for work! The main advantage of this device looks like the m.2 storage. The SD in a rpi4 is painfully slow.

    • azvc on 05/03/2021 - 02:15

      I’m running a similar setup, you could consider putting the Pi into an Argon M.2 case then boot from m.2 ssd.

  • Wonderfool on 05/03/2021 - 02:15

    I wonder why no one is using the athlon 3000g for these nuc like machines. Vega 3 is nice for things like multiple screens or 4k tv playback.

    • tonyjzx on 05/03/2021 - 02:44

      isnt NUC an intel abomination?

      Asrock X300 is close I guess and the Asus PN50? But a lot more money?

      • Wonderfool on 05/03/2021 - 14:34

        Sure, it's an Intel decision, but imagine how easy it is to suggest pc builds for moms and pops if you can have an athlon nuc fully built for 300? The size and low tdp allows it to be used everywhere. Allow it to be powered by battery through pd and you can easily mass sell it to countries like India.

        And for me, 4k tv box lol.

    • killingtime on 05/03/2021 - 08:26

      You can get Ryzen for nuc

  • drearyFalcon3 on 05/03/2021 - 06:11

    Any idea if the cpu supports hardware en/decryption? Might use that device to act as an openvpn client. Pi sucks at that.

    • drearyFalcon3 on 05/03/2021 - 06:13

      Looks like it does..🤔

      • Philthy Phill on 05/03/2021 - 08:36

        It does, it supports Intel® AES New Instructions (AES-NI) which is used for encrypt/decrypt.
        I had the same thought as you, using it for an openvpn server

        • drearyFalcon3 on 05/03/2021 - 08:41

          how's the openvpn performance?

          • Philthy Phill on 05/03/2021 - 13:38
            +1

            @drearyFalcon3: I'll let you know once it arrives ;)
            From what i've read online, people have had these pushing VPN connection into the 500mb/s+ range, depending on your specific encryption settings.

    • deme on 05/03/2021 - 09:08
      +2

      Try wireguard

    • pyr0 on 05/03/2021 - 11:41

      Definitely try wireguard… Its very impressive.

  • almostfrench on 05/03/2021 - 06:17

    Can I use it as a PC mainly for internet surfing for Dad?

  • drearyFalcon3 on 05/03/2021 - 06:28

    How's ubuntu or other *nix support? Any hardware compatibility issue?

    • [Deactivated] on 05/03/2021 - 07:50

      Home assistant treats it as a NUC

  • Mobe1969 on 05/03/2021 - 06:44

    Hmm. Are these fanless?

    • [Deactivated] on 05/03/2021 - 07:50

      Should be with that TDP

  • eccles30 on 05/03/2021 - 09:40
    +4

    If you missed out on this and really wanted one …. catch has it at a fraction of the price:

    https://www.catch.com.au/product/gigabyte-gb-blpd-5005-pc-wo…

    @$45 delivered.

    • Logical on 05/03/2021 - 09:53
      +1

      Just over $41 delivered to BNE… possible price error?

    • ashanrath on 05/03/2021 - 09:53

      Holy shit, that's gotta be a pricing error. Ordered two!

      • Logical on 05/03/2021 - 09:55
        +1

        5 minutes ago 18 in stock.. now 9 left

        • ashanrath on 05/03/2021 - 09:58
          +1

          Fingers crossed we get them. Tempted to sell one for SSD and RAM lol.

        • Logical on 05/03/2021 - 10:01

          4 left now

          • yaaNaa on 05/03/2021 - 10:04

            @Logical: managed to get 1 :D, should be 3 now

        • Logical on 05/03/2021 - 10:05

          none left

    • MSG on 05/03/2021 - 10:02

      Sold and delivered by JW Computers Online

      Are they any good?

      • Logical on 05/03/2021 - 10:04
        +2

        bricks and mortar store…. we can send bikies there if not honoured

        • MSG on 05/03/2021 - 21:11

          Order got cancelled. Time to summon bikies

        • Logical on 05/03/2021 - 23:34

          my order got cancelled too. I made a call to the Rebels and it is on for this weekend.

    • Leonidas on 05/03/2021 - 10:04
      +1

      lol just impluse bought

    • Bold Eagle on 05/03/2021 - 10:06

      Sold out for that one

    • Morien on 05/03/2021 - 12:28

      Could one of you all please share your invoice? Would like to lodge a price protection claim.

      Thanks

    • Leonidas on 05/03/2021 - 21:00
      +1

      cancelled, was too good to be true

    • anfuni on 05/03/2021 - 22:06

      Received a message from JW via catch messaging.
      They advised they was some product linking error and the item should of been a keyboard and not the nuc.
      They told me to reject the delivery via the courier then they will refund.
      They haven't even provided a tracking number.
      I call bs

      • Leonidas on 05/03/2021 - 22:19

        Interesting, i just got refunded. Did you pay will Paypal or something else?

        • anfuni on 05/03/2021 - 22:21

          Yeah paypal

  • Bespoken on 05/03/2021 - 09:44

    Looks like a SCAM to me.

    Add item to your cart, they make you register an account for processing, then item is deleted from your cart because of no stock.

  • ratoloko on 05/03/2021 - 10:09

    It is cute but I am not so sure.

    That is the thing, for this price you buy a Pi 4 4GB ready to be used. Almost anyone has a decent microSD around.
    Adding the memory and SSD to this one won't be less than 200 total and still and such a "restricted" upgrade.
    With that price, you can buy some mini pc or even barebone for the same price with a better setup.

    I bought a Zotac i5-2400 8GB(up to 16GB) 120GB 2x NIC barebone for $249. Company ex-lease devices.
    It is my new router/Firewall running OPNSense. You can find some decent Dell, Lenovo with way better setup, 16GB, etc.

    This is mainly recommended if you have already memory and SSD around. You can have a better option for the same price.

    • McFly on 05/03/2021 - 10:39

      8GB + 128GB M.2 is more like $100, so same price as the Zotac.
      As usual, it's horses for courses…

      • ratoloko on 05/03/2021 - 11:00

        Not really, water and wine.

        This J5005 has a base frequency of 1.5GHz with a boost speed up to 2.80 GHz.
        Cool, DDR4 but limited to 8GB. Intel doesn't even mention CPU bus speed and memory bandwidth.

        While the i5 is up to 3.4GHz, 5 GT/s (Giga transfers per second), memory bandwidth up to 21 GB/s
        So no, it is not the same. You can play but do not expect miracles.

        Suit yourself: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/128984/…

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