nbn Pauses All HFC nbn Activations from February 1st 2021

jimbobaus on 03/02/2021 - 10:05
Last edited 03/02/2021 - 19:02 by 1 other user

NBN Co has previously announced (and now enacted) a freeze on all NBN HFC connections due to a worldwide shortage of NTD's

Anyone who is currently looking to connect to HFC will instead have to wait until the freeze is lifted.

If you move into a residence and the NTD has been left behind (like it is supposed to be) then you are fine and can activate the service.
If you NTD fails or needs repair you are fine (NBN Co is holding a small qty of stock for this purpose)

They are also looking at extending the time between an area's activation on NBN and the retirement of the old legacy network to allow people to connect to older systems in the mean time if needed.

This pause is expected to last "several months"

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-co-to-stop-taking-new-hfc…

We’re temporarily limiting the number of HFC connections

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Comments

  • Loot N Plunder on 03/02/2021 - 10:17
    +12

    Faster cheaper sooner

    We are absolutely confident that 25 megs is going to be enough on essentially a video entertainment system our NBN will be rolled out within three years and Malcolm Turnbull is the right person to make this happen
    Thursday, 17 September 2015 https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.…

    HA HA HA HA HA

    Reap what you sow Australia

    • jimbobaus on 03/02/2021 - 10:20

      This hold has nothing to do with the network.. its an issue of supply of a essential component of delivery

      • Loot N Plunder on 03/02/2021 - 10:25
        -1

        Overpriced, over budget, over time, on an under performing obsolete product

        Lets get some out of date lead acid subs from the french for an ridiculous price for the year 2050
        sound familiar

        HA HA HA HA
        reap what you sow Australia

      • Cheaplikethebird on 03/02/2021 - 10:36
        +1

        Think that fact's going to sail over most people's heads and we're just going to have another debate over what the NBN rollout should have been.

      • Chandler on 03/02/2021 - 10:54
        +5

        This hold has nothing to do with the network..

        True

        its an issue of supply of a essential component of delivery

        Is the supply issue because of something unforseen, or is it due to the component no longer being widely manufactured?

        How long has pay TV been around? (looked it up - 1995 = 25 years). We're using cable networks that are up to 25 years old. Manufacturer's move on. Parts get hard to find.

        You don't use old technology for "next generation" infrastructure.

        Was HFC a good idea to get people with existing connections onto NBN quickly? Yes.
        Was HFC a good idea for new installs? No. Not in my opinion.

        Most of the cost for NBN - as with most things these days, especially in Australia - is labour.

        Yes, fibre is more expensive, but in terms of it's cost component of the whole install, it'd be a fraction. It'd be an even smaller fraction if you include the labour cost of all the rectification work they've had to do to bring the existing copper/cable networks up to par.

        • Cheaplikethebird on 03/02/2021 - 11:16
          +1

          We're talking NTDs here, I'm not an expert by any means but doubt the components are a whole lot different between connection types. Most likely this is just the latest victim of the same supply issues that have caused multiple major automotive manufacturers to shut down production facilities.

          • Chandler on 03/02/2021 - 13:19

            @Cheaplikethebird:

            doubt the components are a whole lot different between connection types

            Probably not. But the issue is specific to HFC.

            There's presumably increased demand from Australia with all the HFC NBN connections, but where is the supply chain failing?

            • Is it "COVID"?
            • Has manufacture of the NTDs themselves not kept up with demand, and we're now seeing a shortfall?
            • Is it manufacture of components specific to HFC for these NTDs that has not kept pace?
            • Are the above items even being manufactured anymore? (which is what I was positing in my original comment1)
            • Cheaplikethebird on 03/02/2021 - 13:45
              +1

              @Chandler: Or it could just be that they have more stock of NTDs for the other connection types, there has been multiple pauses to the HFC already and I believe the future plan is for those connections to be FTTP so they were probably letting stock run out.

              Feel like you're clutching at straws here because you want it to support your claim that HFC was outdated technology. While I'm not trying to defend the NBN I think it's definitely due to the supply issues that are effecting all electronics manufacturers currently rather than not being able to source coaxial modems, pretty certain those are still being manufactured.

              • Chandler on 03/02/2021 - 14:07
                +1

                @Cheaplikethebird:

                Feel like you're clutching at straws here

                Well yeah, we have no idea why there is a supply issue with HFC NTDs, only that there is one.

                because you want it to support your claim that HFC was outdated technology.

                Yeah, my comment was biased due to my opinion on HFC. Doesn't make it wrong.

                I think it's definitely due to the supply issues that are effecting all electronics manufacturers currently

                Quite possibly. Which is what I was getting at with my first reply to you.

      • picklewizard on 03/02/2021 - 13:59
        +1

        A component we wouldn't need had we have stuck with the original FTTP plan.

    • p1 ama on 03/02/2021 - 13:57

      Reap what you sow Australia

      Completely agree, especially to those muppets who voted the LNP to hate the gays and prevent them from getting married have royally screwed broadband infrastructure in Australia for decades.

      And guess what, same sex marriage is legal now and we still have crap broadband. What did that LNP vote achieve?

  • apsilon on 03/02/2021 - 10:43

    That's concerning given my NTD has failed every 6 - 8 months since I had it installed 2 years ago. I'm due for another one any day now. How long is their supply for repairs going to last with that sort of failure rate? Come to think of it, that's probably why they're having supply issues.

    • jimbobaus on 03/02/2021 - 10:50

      My HFC NTD is coming on to 2 years and has never failed.
      knocks on wood

      Saying that my friend switched to HFC NBN a few weeks back
      His NTD lasted 2 weeks before needing to be replaced

      • apsilon on 03/02/2021 - 12:04
        +2

        Yeah TBH I've never believed it was the NTD that was actually at fault. NBN tech always goes to the pit out the front first then comes in and insists on replacing the NTD as that's the fault and magically it works.

        • trongy on 03/02/2021 - 12:53

          In my mind, I'm picturing the technician putting the old NTD into the storage bin in his truck that he pulled your "new" one from and it just gets given to the next customer.

          • apsilon on 03/02/2021 - 15:43

            @trongy: Definitely new every time. I really think it's there excuse instead of admitting it was shoddy workmanship out at the pit.

    • AntifaBriggs on 03/02/2021 - 13:28

      Mine has failed every 3 months, but I live in a valley and the power supply is not very good.

  • Gaz1 on 03/02/2021 - 12:09

    What is the common failure of the NTDs?
    Do they become slow or intermittent, etc?

    • apsilon on 03/02/2021 - 12:20

      Every time in my case I've just lost connection and the NTD has just constantly cycled through it's boot process.

      • trongy on 03/02/2021 - 12:51
        +1

        Every time I've lost connection and the NTD has boot cycled, the issue has been resolved without touching the NTD. To me this indicates that the NTD is designed to boot cycle whenever it loses the network signal and the issues were with some other equipment in the network.

        • apsilon on 03/02/2021 - 15:46

          NTD is designed to boot cycle whenever it loses the network signal and the issues were with some other equipment in the network.

          It definitely is but every outage I've had has required a tech onsite. ISP always tries troubleshooting and wiping and reconfiguring it etc but it's never been fixed without a tech coming out which is always a couple of days at best and I've always just left the NTD cycling.

  • mrhorse on 08/02/2021 - 22:44

    I will be moving into a newly built property next month. As the NTD will not be available for months, any suggestions for WFH + light Youtube/Netflix usage?

    Currently, I am thinking of a Belong SIM and buying hundreds of GB data from someone else.

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