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Hillsong God Is Able Live Deluxe Album CD + DVD $8 (+ $3.50 Shipping) from Koorong

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Hillsong God Is Able Live Deluxe Album CD + DVD $8 (+ $3.50 Shipping) from Koorong
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sportivocamry on 14/12/2011 - 19:16 koorong.com (754 clicks)
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This is a great Hillsong album and very cheap, the normal edition without the extras costs $24.95, it is less than half the price downloaded from iTunes store $20.99. Should be available in store but shipping costs $3.50 extra.

Recorded in November at the Sydney Entertainment Centre, God Is Able is Hillsong Live's twentieth album. This Deluxe Edition comes in a fold-out slip, and features the album CD - same tracklist as the standard CD (#322441) with two bonus tracks - plus a DVD-Rom, containing exclusive bonus songs, concert videos, chord charts, video song stories and much more.

Tracklist:
1. Rise
2. With Us
3. Unending Love
4. The Lost Are Found
5. God Is Able
6. The Difference
7. Alive In Us
8. You Are More
9. Narrow Road
10. My Heart Is Overwhelmed
11. Cry Of The Broken
12. Go
13. Awakening

Mod: If you are not interested in this deal, then move on. All off-topic/trolling comments will be removed and users banned. Respect each other's beliefs and opinions.

Mod: Thread has spun off into religous discussion. Thread closed

*Mod: Updated price 15/12/2011

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    • berger on 14/12/2011 - 19:28
      -8

      this is not a bargain, its just to encourage people to be part of hillsong, thats my view..

      • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 19:32
        +26

        http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bargain

        bar·gain

        n.
        3. Something offered or acquired at a price advantageous to the buyer.

        " the normal edition without the extras costs $24.95, it is less than half the price downloaded from iTunes store $20.99. Should be available in store but shipping costs $3.50 extra."

        Therefore = bargain. Not going to purchase…but still counts as a bargain to me.

        • kwchaz on 14/12/2011 - 19:55
          +11

          I think a lot of the negatives are voting like that because even if it was being sold for less than $5, the content is still not worth it.

          I personally think the content isn't worth any amount of money and would not upvote this submission…

        • bargrin on 14/12/2011 - 20:06
          +11

          Some people value their personal beliefs and some dont, diffrent strokes for diffrent folk.

          Be like me saying discounts at asian restruants are worthless cause we know they all eat cats over there.

          Live and let live

        • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 20:26
          +12

          @kwchaz - I don't think the Asus Transformer 32GB with dock is worth $300 yet when there is a sale @ ~$370 it gets over 100 +ve votes. If people vote based on how much they think the stuff is worth instead of how much it is actually sold at …this entire website is screwed. Half the time I think stuff posted here should be given free. =D

          Like I said..I am personally NOT buying this..but plain fact and simple math tells me this is a bargain. This is a 50-60% discount on normal price.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/12/2011 - 20:28
          +26

          Maybe in the sense that those shitty 'sounds of rocks falling' meditation CDs you find in JB bargain bins for $5 are normally RRP $29 but still not a bargain… I'd say this safely falls into the same category.

        • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 20:49
          +12

          @FerretalliA - Those CDs you find in JB might not be a 'bargain' to you (I definitely won't buy them myself)..but it might be to someone else..either way..if someone posts them on OzBargain.. you don't vote negative..just comment.

          Unless you can find this exact product elsewhere for cheaper than $10..then it is by definition a bargain. So if you don't want to vote positive, then don't vote at all. It is certainly not deserving of a negative vote.

        • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 21:02
          +1

          @lmh86 - Nice find! Giving you a +ve for that! Unfortunately expired…haha..but there you go..you can but it from bandit.fm @ $17..so this is only a 41% saving as opposed to a 50-60% saving. Still a bargain tough. =D

        • phobaphobic on 14/12/2011 - 21:07
          +10

          I think bergerberger is arguing that the price you pay (enslavement into a Megachurch) is far greater than $20.99, and therefore to little or no advantage to the buyer

          and therefore not a bargain.

        • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 21:15
          +6

          @phobiaphobic - I am not going to buy it..but by definition, the price is a bargain..hence it gets my positive vote.

          Find it for a cheaper price elsewhere…then it deserves a negative vote. Like lmh86 posted..if that deal was not expired (meaning you could get the album for free)..then yeh..this would get a negative from me.

  • figarow on 14/12/2011 - 19:45

    nice find op!

  • giggles on 14/12/2011 - 19:49
    -7

    GOD rocks. Not too sure about Hillsong however.

  • stiiky on 14/12/2011 - 19:59
    +5

    I'm sure the RIAA will have something to say about this. Is The Man getting his royalties from all these songs? Quick IP lawyers! Attack!

    • phobaphobic on 14/12/2011 - 21:09
      +18

      If by "the man" you mean the government, then no. Hillsong pays no taxes, and it's management rakes in millions.

      • BertTom on 14/12/2011 - 21:20
        +34

        They are basically Australia's version of Scientology, before Scientology got ground here. This isn't a bargain it's propaganda.

  • bargrin on 14/12/2011 - 19:59

    Yeah we should be more insulting to peoples beliefs and cultures and disregard discounted prices here.

    • voteoften on 14/12/2011 - 22:00
      +4

      bargrin, you say:

      bargrin 1 hour 49 min ago new ¶
      Some people value their personal beliefs and some dont, diffrent strokes for diffrent folk.

      Be like me saying discounts at asian restruants are worthless cause we know they all eat cats over there.

      Live and let live

      I take exception to your assertion that:

      "Some people value their personal beliefs and some dont"

      I am basing this on the assumption that you believe that those who vote negative do not "value their personal beliefs".

      I assert that they DO value their beliefs and therefore they vote negative. I further assert that they value their beliefs more than those who are voting positive based on economics.

    • dopefishy on 14/12/2011 - 20:10
      +16

      Rather than one sided reports from the church? :-p

    • TimeOrMoney on 14/12/2011 - 20:42
      +9

      Funny how people who criticize Scientology / Khmer Rouge / The current Syrian regime don't know anything about it apart from sensationalist reports from current affairs shows and one-sided newspaper reports. :)

      FTFY

      • eug on 14/12/2011 - 21:42

        scraping the bottom of the barrel there i see, trying to link a local church to the current syrian regime. And I don't see anyone here criticizing scientology here, do you?

        I bet hillsong has helped the poor and disadvantaged a lot more than you have. Am I right? It's easy to criticize from a keyboard isn't it.

        • TimeOrMoney on 14/12/2011 - 22:11
          +3

          scraping the bottom of the barrel there i see, trying to link a local church to the current syrian regime.

          Nah, just further effecting the fallacy of your earlier statement.

          And I don't see anyone here criticizing scientology here, do you?

          No.
          OH WAIT! On this page alone, there are 5 references to Scientology, all negative. First I had to teach you how to google, and now Ctrl+F?

          I bet hillsong has helped the poor and disadvantaged a lot more than you have. Am I right?

          Unfortunately, you are. I also have not managed to embezzle and steal as much money as Hillsong, and I doubt I could manage that in my lifetime.

          It's easy to criticize from a keyboard isn't it.

          Thanks for showing us just how easy. :)

  • Postulative on 14/12/2011 - 20:09
    +44

    As a committed atheist and civilised person I find this offer deeply upsetting. Would Ozbargain offer items that were on sale from Heaven's Gate, or Falun Gong, or the Church of Scientology?

    Advertising items in support of cults is an antisocial and deeply untrustworthy behaviour.

    • eug on 14/12/2011 - 20:11
      +7

      if someone posted them, they'd be here. They'd probably get -ve'ed just as much, of course. :)

    • bargrin on 14/12/2011 - 20:14
      +7

      And we should also ban chinease food cause i dont like it.

      • stiiky on 14/12/2011 - 20:20
        +22

        I don't think we should ban chinease food…what else will people eat when they have a sore jaw?

        • markjd on 14/12/2011 - 20:42
          +3

          Out there, but I'll give you a +ve for trying :)

        • Cluster on 14/12/2011 - 21:05
          +1

          Pasta. Ever had orthodontic treatment? It's about the only edible thing for a day or two :-)

    • seanbaussie on 14/12/2011 - 20:20
      +21

      I read plenty of bargains that aren't of interest to me. I don't neg them just because they're not interesting or I don't agree with them.

      Should I neg all these because I don't agree with them?
      http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/59654 - I don't read ebooks, they're for people that don't read real books
      http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/59648 - I don't play basketball, nor does anyone I know
      http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/59647 - I don't think d-link is a reliable brand, and d-link is part of what they're selling
      http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/59646 - I don't like iphones or therefore iphone cases

      • UFO on 14/12/2011 - 22:16
        +1

        omg… you DONT like basketball, or d-link, or iphones?

        dude- i'm hovering over the neg button and struggling real hard to not press ;).

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 14/12/2011 - 20:28
      +9

      "Would Ozbargain offer items that were on sale from Heaven's Gate, or Falun Gong, or the Church of Scientology?"

      My question to you, is would you guys make as just fuss over Buddha? The big M?

      Yeah I doubt it.

      As a civilised person you should be able to discern between bargains an non-bargains.

      As it stands this is a bargain, but Hillsong is a sucky church.

      • TimeOrMoney on 14/12/2011 - 21:13
        +2

        My question to you, is would you guys make as just fuss over Buddha?

        No religious group has immunity to criticism, even Buddhism. (The latter is on the website of a Christian ministry; the former is on a pro-Buddhist website).

        The big M?

        Same category of Abrahamic religions as Hillsong. I've said enough, otherwise his followers will start coming after me.

    • johndoe789 on 14/12/2011 - 21:17
      +22

      As a committed atheist and rational person, I find your intolerance unfounded and frankly give us atheist a bad name with your elitist behaviour.

      This deal has a 46% discount and I have talked to my christian friends about this - it's a good deal.

  • bargrin on 14/12/2011 - 20:16
    +31

    Seriously your having a go at this guy cause he is diffrent from you and has diffrent likes.

    Thats not on cause this is Ozbargain not Ozbully

    I serioulsy hope this post gets more positive votes so it shows to everyone that a negative vote is not to be hijacked as a tool of insult

    • kermuffle on 14/12/2011 - 20:25
      +15

      i dunno why everytime stuff like this comes up ppl get so condescending. if it's a carrot it's just that. a bargain is a bargain. scientologists, mormons, even those kenja ppl can post if it's bargain.

      • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 20:30
        +10

        Exactly!

    • Redmo0n on 14/12/2011 - 21:23
      +8

      I think it's bullshit, last time we had a free bible app & another time a free quran & both got absurdly high votes. Now before you neg me the reason I think it's bullshit is that most people where just +ve it because of a few neg voters, thus making the bargain get +158 votes.

      Do you truly think this is worth +38 votes? Everytime I see music posted on here (minus bandit fm & itunes cards) it either gets very little attention or negative votes, but suddenly religious music is on sale & everyone wants to buy it? I think not.

      • stumo on 14/12/2011 - 21:42

        but suddenly religious music is on sale & everyone wants to buy it? I think not.

        Amen to that. Now I'd like a show of hands, those who +ve voted… whom of you actually bought it? or even clicked through to the website at least?

      • bargrin on 14/12/2011 - 21:47
        +7

        I am not buying it and wouldnt normally give a + vote but i am not going to stand for ppl abuse their negative vote privellage based on personal dislikes or issue insults.

        Thats not what this website should be about.

        • voteoften on 14/12/2011 - 22:05
          +8

          Is it okay to "abuse" their POSITIVE vote "privellage" based on personal likes?

    • Satoria on 14/12/2011 - 22:13
      +1

      Hillsong isn't Christianity, it's a cult.

  • Baa on 14/12/2011 - 20:17
    +8

    I suppose to give the guy the benefit of the doubt he has been posting here since 2009, probably not the best choice of things to post on here but I don't think it is any reason to get personal or attack peoples beliefs.

    I am religious myself and while I don't really get into the whole music scene there are some people who just enjoy that type of music regardless of the denomination it comes from.

    • diddy50 on 14/12/2011 - 20:28
      +4

      Very sensible

  • bigheadache on 14/12/2011 - 20:21
    +5

    Why not, Hillsong do need the cash, after having their a$$es handed to them in the Gloria jeans lawsuit.

    • zeomega on 14/12/2011 - 21:11
      +2

      What lawsuit? Please clarify your facts before you splutter rubbish. There was no lawsuit to begin with.

      • bigheadache on 14/12/2011 - 21:53
        +1

        Don't know much do you? The lawsuit from the American coffee supplier they tried to rip off.

        • zeomega on 14/12/2011 - 22:13
          +2

          Again what lawsuit? What has that got to do with Hillsong? It's owned by some members of Hillsong, not directly owned by Hillsong. :)

  • tombleton on 14/12/2011 - 20:27
    +9

    Is it worth posting just because it's a discount on the RRP regardless of content? Could I get a collection of commercial jingles and advertisements, sell it for $20 but provide ozbargain a discount of 50% and list it legitimately? Religion has nothing to do with it, people vote based on their appraisal of the worth/value of the bargain, and clearly most people do not think religious material is worth listing, regardless of the 'saving'.

    • LordSydney on 14/12/2011 - 20:31
      +7

      "clearly most people do not think religious material is worth listing, regardless of the 'saving'."

      I don't know where you're getting your facts from. 20+ votes to 9- votes…. clearly MOST people disagree with you.

      • tombleton on 14/12/2011 - 20:47
        +4

        You need to get some higher level education into you. A 'fact' is meaningless, for example '20 plus votes versus 9 negative votes' is not self-explanatory considering that a plus vote requires only the click of a button whereas a negative vote can ONLY be left after a comment, and considering the 'sensitivity' of the issue (especially post-moderator intervention), negative votes at all are remarkable. Consider also that you have significantly more negative comments than you do negative votes, and your point about the respective votes becomes less than meaningless.

    • eug on 14/12/2011 - 20:35
      +2

      no, because you would be illegally copying copyrighted music and selling it.

      Perhaps you need to read the official OZB guidelines instead of making up your own:
      http://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:voting_guidelines

      If the deal doesn't apply to you, you don't like the company, you want to leave a warning for people about the business or deal, you might want to leave a comment and then not vote.

      • LordSydney on 14/12/2011 - 20:43
        +1

        I don't even know what you're getting at. There's a big difference between getting reselling a collection of commercial jingles & advertisements, and writing & recording your own songs (be they part of a church's efforts or not).

        Also, if you were approaching this from the angle that Koorong is illegally selling the content.. Koorong is simply a reseller of Hillsong products. Just as JB Hifi is a reseller for Sony. Does that mean JB Hifi is illegally copying copyrighted music (Sony's) and selling it? No.

        • eug on 14/12/2011 - 21:45

          (i was replying to tombleton - ozb doesn't have the best commenting system out there!)

    • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 20:44
      +3

      I understand the arguement with RRP as items may be available to be bought below RRP prices in shops. Like lots of logitech products that are advertised 50% off RRP but in actual fact may be regular prices we can find from places like logitechshop.

      However for this case the price stated is the normal price you find in shops (whichever shops that do sell them)…and this is just over 51% cheaper than buying off itunes. So yes.. I think this deserves to be stated as a bargain..or don't vote..either way..its not deserving of a negative vote.

      PS> Yes…if you were a legit store selling a collection of commercial jungles and gave a discount of 50%..in all technicality..if there is no other way to 'buy' your product at a cheaper price…then yes..it is a bargain. Because that is the definition of a bargain.

      The fact that this is religious material is getting it negative votes…so religion has everything to do with it. If you look at the plain math.. unless you can find exact item priced better elsewhere..you should not be able to justify a negative vote.. same goes with all the random clearance ps3 games that myer gets rid of.. yes..i'm sure we all +ve a copy of PS3 Singstar for $10 because it was worth it.

  • LordSydney on 14/12/2011 - 20:28
    +10

    Great deal! It's extremely disappointing to see other Ozbargainers negging this, as it is a BARGAIN.

    If it were an album from a non-religious group, I'm sure those who have currently negged it would have +v'd instead.

    • stumo on 14/12/2011 - 21:10
      +1

      If it were an album from a non-religious group…

      Then I'm sure it would be worth posting.

      The normal selling price for loosely veiled propaganda material should be zero dollars. Therefore it would only be considered a bargain if they paid you to take it off their hands.

  • diddy50 on 14/12/2011 - 20:33
    +16

    I am very disapointed with the ozB community…
    such hatred and pack mentality in attacking what is a bargain.

    Especially the negging, no real reasons to neg vote have been given apart from snide and rude comments about peoples faith, disgusting!

  • neil on 14/12/2011 - 20:36
    +37

    For the record, I am not affiliated with any religion but find the religious attacks on these threads disgusting. If you are not interested in this deal, then move on. All off-topic comments will be removed and users banned. Respect each other's beliefs and opinions.

    • diddy50 on 14/12/2011 - 20:40
      +11

      Very sesnible of you, good Mod

    • cacatman on 14/12/2011 - 21:42
      +3

      Good call mate! It's the reason you're a Mod, and others aren't.

  • dvsbastard on 14/12/2011 - 20:43
    +13

    Well, it is technically a bargain… and the music can't be that much worse than most of the crap that is put out on the charts today… Can it?!

    So many undeserved negs!

  • anarky on 14/12/2011 - 20:45
    +7

    Yes, but the issue here is that Hillsong is seen to be a cult. It's like Falun Gong advertising a bargain on their book here.

    Cults hurt people.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/12/2011 - 20:53
      +1

      The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of people who follow it. I am a religious person, but I am intelligent enough to realize that at the end of the day, your belief system is just as insane to someone, as their belief system is to you.

      I personally would rather see religious items not advertised on ozbargain, but as the website was founded with an advertisement for koorong, I dont see that happening anytime before the apocalypse.

      The negs in this thread simply arent valid according to the voting rules.

      Also, the idea of a committed atheist is laughable. to commit yourself to a lack of belief means you need to find something better to do with your time.

      • anarky on 14/12/2011 - 21:03
        +3

        That is not true. The difference is that a religion does not promote abnormal and bizarre practices.

        There are religions that don't have many followers yet are recognised as religions, but there are many cults that have huge amounts of followers but are not recognised as religons.

        My neg is that cult's should not be allowed on OzBargain.

      • Radar on 14/12/2011 - 21:38
        +8

        Also, the idea of a committed atheist is laughable. to commit yourself to a lack of belief means you need to find something better to do with your time.

        Maybe do some reading on what atheism is before calling it laughable.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

        • [Deactivated] on 14/12/2011 - 22:15
          -4

          I've done a lot of researching on the concept of Atheism, as have I on religion. To devote yourself to the cause of denying something exists is an awful waste of time.

          Spending your life removing religious privilidges that exist in society however, is perfectly valid.

    • dvsbastard on 14/12/2011 - 20:53
      +4

      To be fair, if it were enough of a bargain I would consider buying a copy of L. Ron Hubbard's "Dianetics" for shits n' giggles! :P

      • robinsoa on 14/12/2011 - 21:22

        Exactly. If its a bargain price, bring it on. I'd love a copy of the Koran too if someone can find me a good price.

        • bigheadache on 14/12/2011 - 21:55

          Easy enough. Join a mosque if you're serious. You'll get one for free

        • [Deactivated] on 14/12/2011 - 22:16
          +3

          join a mosque? It's not a gym. Just look up an islamic centre in your state and I am sure they will be happy to help you out.

    • zeomega on 14/12/2011 - 21:07
      -2

      I'd love to hear how you substantiate that claim of Hillsong being a cult and how Hillsong has hurt anyone. In fact, please take a look at the Church's community programs not just locally, but worldwide as well. Have you seen how much good the Church has done for the less fortunate?

      Then comes my question to you. What have you done to return to the community/society other than criticism of other people's faith? :)

      • anarky on 14/12/2011 - 21:14
        +7

        It is easy to try and derail an argument while comparing the posts of one person to the actions of an entire organisation.

        Hillsong is frequently in the newspaper for their shady financial practices. This leads to people getting hurt = cult religon in my eyes.

        • zeomega on 14/12/2011 - 21:27
          -2

          "Hearsay your honor."

          "Please answer the question."

      • anarky on 14/12/2011 - 21:41
        +2

        You are quoting hearsay to someone who deals with it daily. Hearsay is admissible in court and certain does not relate to "answering the question"

        However, I don't see how, when I list what I do in return to the community that it will justify my argument that Hillsong has disturbing financial practices?

        Before I waste any more time. My question to you: Is Scientology a cult?

    • Maestrok on 14/12/2011 - 21:08
      +8

      What is your definition of a bargain? Cause I posted the dictionary's definition in an earlier post..and I'm pretty sure this IS a bargain by definition.

  • phobaphobic on 14/12/2011 - 21:04
    +6

    Is it still a bargain, considering this organization doesn't pay tax on any of it's huge income? They are stealing off the public.

    • robinsoa on 14/12/2011 - 21:20
      +7

      You do realise that a lot of deals on here are by companies that either minimise their tax or offshore?
      So yeah it is still a bargain. Wether they pay tax is irrelevant.

  • odc on 14/12/2011 - 21:10
    +2

    love it. Thanks def. a bargain. I wonder how many ppl celebrate Christmas… hmmm

    • BertTom on 14/12/2011 - 21:29
      +6

      This is off topic and if you are implying Christmas is Christian then you have no idea about its actual origins. http://i.imgur.com/dzhWX.png As I said, this is off topic but relevant to this comment.

  • aldog on 14/12/2011 - 21:14
    +13

    Two topics that tend to have heated debates on OzBargain:

    1. Religious items.
    2. Vibrators and other sex toys.

    Very interesting to read peoples opinions/beliefs around here! :)
    All in all, the more bargains the merrier really. Besides, how hard is it to NOT click on the bargain if it doesn't interest you?

    • padfoot07 on 14/12/2011 - 21:29
      +1

      I don't know why, but I lol'd reading your comment :P

    • Third_Gear on 14/12/2011 - 21:34
      +7

      You forgot Apple vs. Android/PC Phew.. some doozies.

    • Radar on 14/12/2011 - 21:46
      +2

      I'm disappointed there are no puns yet.

  • neil on 14/12/2011 - 21:17
    +9

    Another reminder. If you don't like deals from Korong or any store for that matter, you can click hide from listing button and you won't see the deals appear.

    • stumo on 14/12/2011 - 21:20
      +11

      Is there a filter for all religion based posts? (eg a ban). They are always more trouble than they're worth.

      • TCM on 14/12/2011 - 21:44
        +8

        More trouble than they're worth? If it is so much trouble then take Neil's advice and hide it. It's only trouble if you go through the thread start commenting on it.

        Just a little fact for everyone, in the 2001 census showed that 68% of the population considered themselves Christians (includes Catholics). Now if you take the period between 1991 and 2001 you will see that it has dropped approximately 3% every 5 years so if that trend continued to 2011 there would be 62% of the population that are Christians.

        Now, not even counting the percentages from other religions, if we were to ban religious postings, we would infact be banning posts that are relevant and of interest to the majority of Australians.

        Source: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/bb8db737e2af84b8ca25…

        • Radar on 14/12/2011 - 21:51
          +4

          Most people I know who checked the christian box are not actually christians - they did it because their parents were(not are) when they were kids.

          That question doesn't matter to them when they have no religion and no idea/care why the question is asked.

        • TCM on 14/12/2011 - 21:55
          +1

          Radar, do you think Stumo or the other people who negged this deal would tick that box? Or do you think they would've said no religion?

        • stumo on 14/12/2011 - 21:57
          +3

          Now, not even counting the percentages from other religions, if we were to ban religious postings, we would infact be banning posts that are relevant and of interest to the majority of Australians.

          Its not about that, its about the two terms, "Religion" and "Bargain", being used together.

          The thing that brings the OzBargain community together is the one true "religion of the Bargain". The thing that divides the OzBargain community is when ulterior motives are involved.

          The "bargains" that make people feel guilty about not + voting, or climbing up onto high horses or bandwagons, or that is known to harbour any other ulterior motives, should be banned.

        • Radar on 14/12/2011 - 22:03
          +1

          I don't care what they ticked. I'm just pointing out that those statistics on that question might not be an accurate depiction of Australians.

        • TCM on 14/12/2011 - 22:07
          +1

          Stumo,

          When you said "The "bargains" that make people feel guilty about not + voting, or climbing up onto high horses or bandwagons, or that is known to harbour any other ulterior motives, should be banned."

          You have assumed that Christians would feel guilty for not voting positively to any Christian related bargain. May I ask how you come to that conclusion?

          If you look to the past Koorong or other religious deals they don't seem to have as much activity as say a logitech sale. If it was like how you said it I would be thinking that those posts would get the highest number of +ve votes unless the Majority of the Ozbargain community is from the population that ticked "no religion"

        • TCM on 14/12/2011 - 22:12
          +2

          Radar,

          The point was that if someone ticked "Christian", I would have good reason to believe they are a type of person who would not be offended or put off by a Christian bargain and would also have a good chance of finding interest in these bargains.

          Stumo and the other people who negged this deal would not fit into this population but my point is that they are the minority of Australians and therefore we should not ban these deals.

          Now, unless you have a better percentage of the true population of Christians in Australia I think I'd be inclined to take the ABS data.

  • robinsoa on 14/12/2011 - 21:18
    +13

    The deal, itself, is a bargain.
    Voting + or - on religious grounds is pathetic IMO

  • geoffs87 on 14/12/2011 - 21:28

    Begs to question the definition of a bargain. Value is only determined by demand and the price buyers are willing to pay. If noone wants a bar of this pyscobabble bulls*, how could this be a bargain?

    • robinsoa on 14/12/2011 - 21:34
      +3

      I think some people do want this (not me) and they don't see it as psycobabble bs. (I do)
      Is it a bargain - ask hillsong customers. Only they can confirm it is for sure, but on face value it looks like a bargain to me.

  • dy4me on 14/12/2011 - 21:28
    +9

    Seriously, if this wasnt hillsong and was Adele or LMFAO im sure every1 would be voting this up. Grow up and let the rest enjoy the deal. This is as bad as android is better than iOS and vice versa. What shock me is not that people in australia hate religion but the fact that they hate others believing in a religion too.

    • TimeOrMoney on 14/12/2011 - 21:53
      -4

      Seriously, if this wasnt hillsong and was Adele or LMFAO im sure every1 would be voting this up.

      Then it shouldn't be hard for you to find any previous bargain posts for a music album at $13.50 or higher with more positive votes than this one?

      Sure, there several free or really cheap albums with more votes, but even the ones which are $10 or $5 (inc. delivery) have fewer votes.

      To summarise: YOORONG.

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