I am from Apple Ecosystem, own MacBook Pro, Mac Air(partner), iPhones(both me and my wife).
For this new year, I don't want to pay for Made in China product as we all have lost so much due to wuhan virus.
I just want to know what are the options we have and what others think about Made in China Products
Options: Samsun , Pixel
New Year Resolution: Should I buy iPhone that is Made in China?
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as we all have lost so much due to wuhan virus.
Just because the virus originated there?
what others think about Made in China Products
Similar post have been made
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/587855
I just want to know what are the options we have
I mean there are electronics made by other Asian countries such as Korea, Japan, Taiwan (if you treat them as different), and European brands such as HP and Dell.
What about the accessories that you'll get with it? My Pixel 4 charger is made in China and pretty sure the same can be said for the cable.
Does iPhones come with accessories? Ohh, you mean the box. 👍
Most Samsung products aren't made in South Korea btw
Agree. My s20+ is made in Vietnam and my s8+ was also made in Vietnam
Taiwan (if you treat them as different)
Republic of China (Taiwan) is a completely different nation to People's Republic of China (Mainland). RoC is democratic and allied with the West, PRC is authoritarian and in strife with the West.
tl;dr: Taiwan are the good guys, Mainland China are the bad guys.
Maybe find an original Nokia that is made in Finland?
Thanks for ur suggestion
You could try 2 cups and a string made in Australia.
Beans cans are the new tech version
"2 cups and a string "
Sorry, it's still being used as part of the NBN. We've increased the density of the string to get a bit more speed out of it.
Hmm, looks like that post has been negged on some sort of 'principle' rather than content…
Nokia 7/10
Nokia with rice 8/10.Thank you for your suggestion.
Sometimes I just don't know if a person is trolling or he is serious about his assumptions.
Buy iphone that is "Made by Apple" 😏
Aren't Samsung stuff made in China too?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/uighur-muslims…
No, many if not all S Korean companies got raided during THAAD issue in 2017, people able to get out but equipments are ‘donated’.
most of samsung products are now made in Viet Nam
You've already got an apple phone.
If you think you are making the world better by not buying made in china, make it better by holding onto your current phone for much longer.
Let us know what you settle with, so we can recommend a $4 aliexpress phone case.
Agree, You have a point, but my phone life is over as I owned an old iPhone 6, Plus my partner won't be very happy if I kept the same phone :)
flip a coin
Pixel 5 or Samsung **
You do know their accessories are made in China …
We should start from somewhere, And I think we don't have many options, do we
For this new year, I don't want to pay for Made in China product as we all have lost so much due to wuhan virus.
Looks like you are going to lose your Apple products too.
I bought those before the virus
So it was you who funded the biolab that invented the virus or Huawei who is spreading it around with their 5G. So you had an hand in this? Should take all your Made in China stuff and execute it. Because that is what the CCP does, CCP also apparently sends you a bill for the bullet
Disclaimer the above is not based on any scientific fact and contradict official sources
Looks like you have a lot of inside information
Lol. good luck with you resolution
It is very interesting how you would wait 9+ months to start a 'made in china' boycott …..
Most of us assumed 9 months ago that the virus came from Wuhan (even though there are rewnowned experts who believe it occurred prior to Wuhan and in other places).
At the end of the day, IF you are really passionate about this - then go for it, don't wait 9 monts to start something you feel strongly about and after you have sought the opinion of OzBarganiners.
Good to know you consider that I am late with my boycott
I have reported you in relation to your seriously concerning ideology.
Look, you really need to speak with a psychologist.
I believe you pose a danger to society, so a report has been submitted.
It is very interesting how you would wait 9+ months to start a 'made in china' boycott …..
9 months later some people (not OP) still doesn't know how to put a mask on properly to just not putting a mask on at all (to avoid the embarrassment I guess). I still believe there is hope for humanity, the learning curve is just a long. Unfortunately when you tell people they are a bit slow (again not directed at OP) they get angry very quickly.
Haha, I am just considering something while switching my phone(9 or 10 months later doesn't matter) , not asking anyone else to boycott anyone.. Nutjoke
Are you going to go live in a cave, hunt for animals and forage for plants to avoid Chinese made products too? If so, you won't need a phone.
Just don't hunt migratory birds from China!
Or bats.
How old is your iPhone? Sometimes the best option is to not upgrade and keep using your current phone
its iPhone 6 mate, but the troubling part is to get out of the entire ecosystem :)
Not troubling at all. My wife upgraded to a redmi note 8 pro last year, and it was 30 minutes of looking at the phone.
She didnt miss anything at all about apple. Some of the icons look the same, so it was very straight forward. She upgraded from about an iphone 6 too.
But that android phone won't be compatible with other Apple products if you own one
to get out of the entire ecosystem :)
This is where you start. What compatibility do you actually use and benefit from?
@DarthAntz: I don't know how easy it would be to connect ur android phone to an existing MacBook Pro
LMFAO this guy wants to boycott china…. goes buy Xiaomi
@Pufff: I've got no intention of boycotting China. I've been there, got plenty of Chinese friends, and shop online there all the time.
I didnt know phones were made in any other country until I read this post.
The troubling part is to boycott China in a tech world.
companies need their share of the money and consumers must have things at a certain price so need slaves from somewhere.
lol
just keep away from Made in China Products as I do as so dodgy or regret…
Yeah, avoid Chinese made where you can. Not just because of the Wuhan virus but for ethical reason relating to their human rights abuses at least.
Stop driving too. Most of crude comes from Saudi Arabia where women weren't allowed to drive because it would make them infertile.
Best to avoid made in Vietnam Samsung their severe track record of child labor and human trafficking
Should also avoid made in Japan Subarus too because of their Governments inaction has them being complicit in child abductions despite being a Hague convention signatory.
Avoid South Korea too where the average workers are basically slaves and a handful of families control the country. There's a reason why it's one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
Edit: Forgot about Australia with white Australia, stolen generation, endorsing iraq war, afghan war crimes etc.
Best build a raft and live in the middle of an ocean.
That's the spirit guys! Let's start with China seeing how they are the world leaders in slave labour and human rights abuse. Hopefully all the other countries will be coerced to change their ways too.
Yeah I'll boycott computers and internet considering the America's human rights abuse and the treatment of our Julian Assange.
Opt in to buy everything Aussie made not just electronics. Buy Aussie poultry, furniture, 100% Aussie made house (no made in xyz materials) including Aussie labour, Aussie made car, Aussie movies etc. Go full loco mate and good luck with new year resolution.
Also let us know how much you end up spending on your loco resolution vs. buying in made in China goods.
buy Aussie poultry.
Are you sure all meat raised in Australia is fed on all Australian produce. Or processed by Australian made machines, or packaged in Australian made plastic. Shipped to the supermarket in Australian made trucks and components. Put on a shelf or in a fridge that's made in Australia.
Same with everything you think is Australian made.. some part of that process getting that raw product into finished product then on to retail shelf for you to purchase involves China in some way shape or form.
The only way to escape China is live on a deserted island somewhere and still then there are no guarantees.
For sure, you can’t avoid buying from China completely, however trying to buy more things made in Australia/Australian owned is still beneficial to Australia and often the environment e,g. I recently noticed that many hams are made from 30% australian ingredients or less, I now buy the ones that are made from at least 97% Australian ingredients - not perfect, but in my mind better (also seems to be nicer ham). If I wanted to be ethically perfect I probably wouldn’t buy ham at all, but like most people I don’t live by absolutes.
True
Buying Australian for the right reasons not because some turds on the internet tells you to boycott China for stupid reasons.
Buy Australian because you want to help the Australian economy
Not buy Austrialian because you want to avoid China.
I was recently surprised by the labelling on a Bickfords pomegranate juice. The Juice bottle itself makes the story that it is an Australian product, when you read the details though only 10% is from Australian sourced product the rest is overseas produced. It just surprised me that when I read the bottle properly it is saying that Australian juice is added to keep the Bickfords taste (or words to this effect), if I did not read the label properly I could assume that it is all Australian juice.
I don't actually care where juice comes from, if it is from concentrate then I don't buy it anyway as it tastes wrong - I was just curious…
Aussie made car….
Nice joke. Holden was controlled by a bunch of losers until the day it died.
Not sure why all the hate for the OP, the Chinese are taxing Australian imports like crazy, disregarding the origins of COVID for a minute and the OP does have a point, why should we be supporting an economy that wants to bite the hand that's feeding it.
TBH i think we should be going harder with our iron ore export prices while we're at it.
And yes we have to start somewhere, India, Vietnam or South Korea are no doubt champing at the bit to get a slice of the pie.Oh and an iphone 6 is a bit long in the tooth, change it for a samsung s or Note and never look back, i did and it's been the best decision ever, at least until Iphones start coming with decent size batteries.
Your beloved batteries are made in China, so reduce the size and reduce the demand for Chinese products.
So why support the economy etc as you say.
Use your phone less and you have no issue with battery life. BTW Apple is doing that with ARM processors that require less battery power. This will also occur when Android phones also go to ARM processors. Also helps environment with less waste.
😀And TSMC who makes the A11 chips are doing that more outside China.
Instead of everyone looking at not buying Chinese products, the reality is we have let them be so integrated into our lives, like Coal/steel restrictions they make, it can in the short term hurt us more.
However playing the long game, substituting what we can from other countries and ourselves is a wise idea. Better a phone made in say India/Vietnam with 50% Chinese parts than one 100% Chinese.
disregarding the origins of COVID for a minute and the OP does have a point
But his point was because china is the origin of covid, therefore boycott product made there.
If OP starts with how China cockblock our wine and timber industry then of course it is worth discussing (and has been discussed)
Don't see other commenters are hating OP for the boycott, but rather bemused by the reason this late? Imagine people are boycotting Germany because of WW2, but can't part with their VW ecosystem. What about the bombs on Japan?
Anyhow, I shall not mention the war while staying in Fawlty Towers
It comes across as pretty much an ignorant bandwagon post
Our economy is reliant on China because our politicians have allowed our manufacturing to fall apart.
The other route is to reduce our living standards with ultra expensive goods and services
ignorant bandwagon post
Don't say that, good entertainment.
Our economy is reliant on China because our politicians have allowed our manufacturing to fall apart.
Can't blame them for getting into bed with big business for a few hundred thousand bucks, not even $1m (per the movie Indecent Proposal) to offshore our manufacturing and setting unreal expectations for the population.
The other route is to reduce our living standards with ultra expensive goods and services
We haven't just yet. We've been busy selling everything we got so we can buy expensive German cars and white goods. Please don't talk about the poor people who need to buy Chinese stuff, we don't want that news mate.
Once we are tapped out then living standards will reduce. Happened to almost every economy.
why should we be supporting an economy that wants to bite the hand that's feeding it.
Who's feeding who?
Clearly doesn't know. Some talk so much but are completely clueless.
Mate! Chicken and the egg mate.
Mate! Do we sell them our agricultural products first so they can eat and make our computers that we use to communicate and sell them the agricultural products in the first place mate.
Mate! Stuff they don't teach you at school mate.
Mate as in friend, buddy, pal?
Or Mate as in Chess (checkmate)?
Or is it that tea like drink known as "Mate"
My mate hurts, too much thinking now …
wuhan virus
Who are you? Donald Trump?
Spelling is hard. 2 syllables vs 5 syllables.
I don’t agree with the reason for your boycott but do understand wanting to boycott stuff from China to an extent. As few people have said it’s pretty hard to boycott everything from China.
If you’re still keen on an iphone for compatibility you could consider a second hand one that’s newer than your current (eg iphone 11 or SE), so your support is less direct (it still supports apple manufacturing in China though). iphone still has over 50% of the market share in Australia, which is why a lot of people stick to iphone. I continue with iphone/ipad for imessage/facetime (makes it easier to communicate with older family members who are used to these platforms) and it’s way easier to find a charger to borrow at work or at friends places when the need arises, it’s also the most common corporate device (for phones/tablets) in my workplace.
To be honest I think you’d be better off boycotting products where there’s a more direct link between the issue you’re against and the product you’re purchasing. e.g. some people might boycott clothing made by the forced labour of Uyghur people, or unsustainably harvested fish (this is an interesting and disturbing read https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-16/china-fishery-fears-f…). In your case if you think COVID was engineered or deliberately released by the chinese gov (unlikely) you’d want to boycott buying from chinese gov owned companies, e.g. Huawei, TCL. Even this is quite murky though as most entities are only partly CCP owned. As for Chinese owned (but not necessarily gov owned) enterprises, it may impact Australian jobs if there was large scale boycott e.g. if there was a boycott of Bellamy’s as it’s owned by Mengiu, it would also impact the Australian employees.
I’m no fan of CCP tactics and international behaviour on a number of issues, but boycotting anything chinese owned or made is super complex and unrealistic, so maybe just buy your iphone if that’s what you’d prefer to use.
If you’re still keen on an iphone for compatibility you could consider a second hand one
Someone's sloppy seconds, a second chance of supporting the CCP. Keeping resale values high will lead people to buy iphones in the first place.
Yeah, the difference is marginal, it is less direct though. It’s unclear to me how strong the link is between Apple and the CCP. Sure there’s likely to be some parts of manufacturing done by government owned enterprises, but by that way of thinking anything manufactured in China is supporting the CCP which rules out buying a lot of stuff if one was to boycott on this basis.
Believe Apple outsources to a few companies, one being Foxconn which is actually Taiwanese but moved into China because cheaper labor costs. They have also installed nets on buildings to stop suicides of employees who feel over worked.
If your logic is because the pandemic started in China then you would need to follow through with anything to do with America and UK as well because they took a bad thing and made it exponentially worse when they had the wealth and means to stop it but instead trivialised it for political reasons. China on the other hand acted swiftly to minimise harm and deaths. China is also supplying vaccines to third world countries while western countries compete for vaccines for themselves. So if your thinking is purely based on the pandemic then perhaps you could think again.
C'mon.. just dance with us.
@Monty: They are - Apple is an American company, so by not buying an iPhone it's two birds with one stone… /s.
Excellent!
If your logic is because the pandemic started in China
Maybe the bat was illegal and crossed borders without a passport. Or maybe it originated from 5G towers not in China. Or maybe it was a mutant 4G signal that spread the virus. Who knows.
But what you can do is continue to eat Lemon Chicken, Sweet and Sour Pork and Beef & Black Bean sauce because none of those dishes actually exist in China. At least not as we know it.
Wow, are you actually seriously answering comments that are sarcastic in their response? ….. are you that dumb as to believe by not buying Chinese product you are paying back some of what Covid 19 has done to Australia? I am going to assume you are not that idiot.
Many products regardless of their country of origin will have some of their components made in different countries including China, the food that you buy from "Australian" food manufacturers, parts in the new Japanese car you buy, the routers that power the internet, the servers that store your data etc etc, some of the components will almost always be Chinese.
If you wish to boycott a countries products do it for the right reasons, like China's humans rights abuses or how they treat people who disagree with the Regime (I am sure you have seen news articles about Jack Ma this week), the virus is not China's fault. The cover up is but I doubt that even if they had been open about this that it would have changed anything, this virus is so contagious that it only needs one person to get out - seen the NSW and Victorian cases recently? and that is with huge effort in controlling it.
Good on you for being a Troll, it gave me something to laugh about this morning because nobody is stupid enough to believe this.
Are you a fully functioning individual? Do you have some sort of disability?
You demonstrate some sort of incapacity to comprehend that there is evidence the virus may have originated in Europe… so by your logic… you are willing to nuke an entire civilisation bc you "think" the virus stemmed from China.You need to speak with a psychologist, I am serious, you have extremely serious issues that need to be resolved b4 you pose danger to society with your ideology.
In fact I am going to ask Oz Bargain to have you investigated by the authorities.
Compare total COVID deaths, China about 4,600 to say the USA and its 350,000.
You want to boycott a country that respects life more than the other one?How about the war on terror? China did not take part in the killing that left a million dead and many countries destroyed, quality of life and education will be destroyed in those countries for generations to come.
Whatever accusations are thrown at China, just like Iraq's "WMD's" there is no physical proof of those things happening.
Rather they have all but eliminated poverty and it populations of minorities have increased over Han Chinese.I say look at facts, not media bias or outright lies when making a decision about what is right or wrong.
You are delusional if you think only 4600 people in China died.
Ok the numbers might not be accurate but the comparison is valid. Don’t be fooled by the rhetoric of idiots.
Avoiding Chinese goods need not be BINARY (all or none). Start somewhere and be diligent when you are buying anything.
So a phone made ABC (Anywhere but China) is the best option. However, if only accessories are made in China it is still a better deal than whole phone being made in China.China is already putting trade barriers for lots of Australian goods, nothing wrong in returning the favour.
Most of the pro-china comments here just go on to show that boycott hurts them where it matters.I just want to know what are the options we have
The option of NOT CARRYING a phone every single second of your life is there.
Our grandparents use that option and were still able to communicate and be social. And live a life. And buy houses!!! :-)
Ain't easy but the option IS there.
Now, will you?
Back to Wuhan virus again huh? Did you graduate from Pompeo/Trump university?
https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1345438947137236993?s=…
Covid has been deected in Italy before Wuhan. Are you gonna call it Italian virus? Next time do some research instead of following Trump BS
Well … the wrongly call "Spanish Flu", that by the way killed about 50,000,000 (?), was labeled as such purely for political reasons.
Neither Britain nor Germany (at war) were happy to disclose how many deaths/casualties they were having.
So an innocent Spanish king was the only one to get noticed …So now is about the same circus.
The loud voices are against China so why not call it the "China Virus".
Who cares, really.
It is more like a "Planet Earth virus".Hope to live long enough to learn from scientists where did it actually originated.
Goats in Canada?????
Cats in France?????
Fish in Brazil????
Lab in Korea????
ET sent one from home??Can't wait to know the truth.
are you gonna call it Italian virus?
I suggest calling it the "Lombardy Lobotomy"
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Like wow…. not sure if serious..