RRP at $180 at RAM website - https://eshop.ramint.gov.au/qantas-centenary
Cheapest price seen for this set. Great christmas present for Qantas or Coin Collectors.
Qantas 100 Yr Centenary Royal Australian Mint $1 Coin Collection $124 + $15 Postage (RRP $180) @ Qantas Store
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Mandatory vaccine lol. Sell your shares!
Wonder when they'll take it back. They've had some pretty severe opposition to this
Have shares taken a dive? I'd be pretty nervous if I had shares. Then again, Joyce did want to do a share buy back im pretty sure, so I wouldn't put it past him to intentionally lower the share value temporarily.
My super is in the indexed option and it's bounced back to better than the start of the year. It went down for a while though.
Just like the mandatory yellow fever vaccine booklet if visiting certain countries? That one actually has caused 35 deaths (of 500 million people), unlikely the current COVID vaccines.
I’m just saying it as it is. People will choose a different airline
I would be surprised if any other major airline would have a different policy next year
If there's another airline flight full of unvaccinated passengers, I'd prefer to be on the vaccinated flight with QANTAS. That's how I assess the sales impact anyway.
@TheG1000: Will shareholders like you being able to travel with just vaccinated passengers or will they want unvaccinated too? I’m not sure where this pit of money is going to come from?
@TheG1000: If we take into consideration the math..
Covid survival rate for most of the population is 99.9%
Vaccine effective rate is 94.5%
Based on those odds I'd feel safer letting my body do it's thing than being jabbed with a rushed vaccine with who knows what the long term side effect could be.
@vash5: Breakdown needs to be those who fly, not the general population. Consider age and spend.
I truly do consider it a smart business move, play to your customer base, play to the money.
Also consider the strength of fear.As for false info, 99.9%? It's doesn't take much effort to work out it's around 2% mortality of cases not 0.1% (that's with rounding down)
Then consider survivors and explain to those who survived ICU how their not deaths don't count, it's harmless… Nah not me.Also I'm selling Qantas shares coincidentally, but not because of this. The coins are still a bit overpriced considering the issue size.
@TheG1000: The biggest issue with 2% figure is that:
A: Pre-existing condition is not considered
B: Age demographic is also not consideredHave a look here:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se…While this data is from May, it's still relevant by what I'm trying to explain.
Age of Covid deaths in %
0-17 0.06%
18-44 03.9%
45-64 22.4%
65-45 24.9%
75+ 48.7%If we now take those same figure and take out the people who had pre-existing condition we get:
0-17 0.02%
18-44 00.8%
45-64 03.7%
65-45 06.5%
75+ 14.3%That's a BIG difference
75% of deaths had pre-existing conditions of which, the vast vast majority are over the age of 65 years of age for both categories.
The most interesting part.. it's actually hard to find data like this. You will find plenty of cases vs deaths.. deaths and age break down. But actually finding deaths with age break down with/without pre-existing condition, yeah I would love to see this on a wider global scale.
@vash5: If we take into consideration the math (just using your numbers, which aren't right)
Taking the vaccine reduces your chance of acquisition to 5.5% increasing your chance of survival to 99.9945% Which is a huge increase in chance given numbers of population i.e. you've gone from 26000 Australians dying, to 1430 Australians dying.
@odysseus: Who's math is right?? Please share the info, keen to know.
While this is a copy paste of the above reply, it's what im trying to say the entire time.
The biggest issue with 2% figure is that:
A: Pre-existing condition is not considered
B: Age demographic is also not consideredHave a look here:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se…While this data is from May, it's still relevant by what I'm trying to explain.
Age of Covid deaths in %
0-17 0.06%
18-44 03.9%
45-64 22.4%
65-45 24.9%
75+ 48.7%If we now take those same figure and take out the people who had pre-existing condition we get:
0-17 0.02%
18-44 00.8%
45-64 03.7%
65-45 06.5%
75+ 14.3%That's a BIG difference
75% of deaths had pre-existing conditions of which, the vast vast majority are over the age of 65 years of age for both categories.
The most interesting part.. it's actually hard to find data like this. You will find plenty of cases vs deaths.. deaths and age break down. But actually finding deaths with age break down with/without pre-existing condition, yeah I would love to see this on a wider global scale.
BoycottQantas
hahaha boycott only makes sense when there's a second player.
worth nothing until Qantas turns … 200 yo lol
It's legal tender, so it's worth at least $1, not nothing.
$11 11 coins
scammiest scam ever
i'd be ok with something like $25 or even $50 but $125 or $180 (!!!) is as sick a joke as qantas itself
Isn't Qantas the best Australian airline?
The only Australian airline
Cause the CEO petitioned the government to watch on and let Virgin group die. Now Qantas can finally have the monopoly they want.
@Fuzor: It's a pretty tough industry with thin margins, not sure how many Airlines you can have and all be profitable
Limited to 40,000 !
Sounds great
Yeah I bought it from the Qantas store when they released it last year at $180…They were being too greedy to release 40,000 when most other limited released from the Royal Aus Mint have smaller quantities and are around $120. They got greedy with their own celebration coin lol. Karma can be a bitch as they are finding out now that they cant sell it all when they try to rip people off.
This was my story.
I bought 6 of them last year at $180 each, not long after, they reduced the price. So I asked to return my initial ones. They agreed in the condition that I pay the return postage fee, I accepted. Qantas store took the money, they asked the RAM to post the coins to the buyer. So when return, I have be asked to returned to the RAM, not Qantas store. After the coins returned, Qantas only refund me $180, because someone told them they received only one box. Not until many phone calls and chats, and showed them photos and prof of postal receipt. after one month later they refund me another $180 and that was all. I returned the large box which contained 6 boxes of coins I received from the RAM unopened with about 9kg in the weight, they said only received two boxes of coins. There was no physical inspection from anyone in Qantas store to the RAM store, I just received two boxes in refund and lost 4 boxes of coins for nothing.
People please think about my story before buy anything from the Qantas store, specially those coins. If anyone know how to appeal my lost in this situation please let me know.
Sad to hear that happened to you. Qantas used a dropshipping model but obviously cant check anything on their end. But why did you buy 6…Royal Australian Mint dont look too highly on you if you're not a collector. They probably viewed you in another light and that might be half your problem.
I am also a RAM collector. I could buy directly from them, only reason to buy from Qantas was want to use some of the QFF points.
I wanted to use them as XMas gifts last year.
So If it went up you keep it . Down you want a refund . No coin dealers would have given you a refund because of that and fate prevails to your just desserts .
@popsiee: What bargain means?
noun. an advantageous purchase, especially one acquired at less than the usual cost.Qantas store is NOT a coin dealer. Just happen to be some coins this time around. Could be anything they sell. Hopefully you never need to return anything you have bought, good luck!
@zhen: Yeah Qantas shouldn't be using drop shipping full stop. Its just another example of the greedy culture of that business. It might be too late but try through your credit card company or paypal if you went through that.
@Fuzor: Thanks for that, but I used QFF.
My lost is a lesson for everyone. I told them that I will put my story to every social medias, Qantas store will lost much more than mine in the long turn.
No jab, no international flight.. thanks but no thanks Quants.
CEO is so concerned about your safety and trying to look noble but you don't hear him signing up to the Covid trails or saying he will be the first person in the company to get the jab. I wonder why 🤔
Are covid trails related to chem trails?
Congrats you found a typo.. your good will of the day has been done!!
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