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Sistema Microwave Rice Steamer 2.6L (Red) $5.50 @ Big W ($0 C&C/in Store) / Amazon AU (Expired)

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Size: 2.6L
Rice steamer with a pressure chamber tray for cooking optimum rice every time; 11 cup capacity
Features Sistema KLIP IT easy locking clips; steam release vent in lid for splatter-free heating, cooking; includes rice paddle
Measures 8.5 x 7.7 x 6.3 inches; Designed specifically for cooking and reheating in the microwave
Top-rack dishwasher-safe; fridge and freezer-safe; microwave-safe with the vent open
100% virgin plastic; phthalate and BPA-free
Made in New Zealand

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  • +31

    Uncle Roger recommends a proper rice cooker and the first knuckle rule.

    • Came to see, was not disappointed.

      Uncle Roger pls review.

      • +4

        Lol look at all these people below trying to justify the knuckle rule with science and logic… there's no science and logic to it. Just pure instinct & skill handed down by our ancestors. And if you are asian and can't cook rice with this method, you may want to consider a different race, haiyaaa

    • +7

      Still a dumb rule though because the water volume is dictated by both depth and the radius of the container

      • i am asian and i agree.

        Best rule is 1:1.1 Rice:Water ratio.

        • +3

          It's different per type of rice lmao

          • @Saura: true - i only eat jasmine, but it should work with most long-grain white rice

          • @Saura: Indeed, 1:2 works for arborio

      • -4

        Everone's knuckles are different, but find the level for your own finger and it's foolproof.

        It's not about the depth and radius of the container, it's about the water displacement and that difference is always the same regardless of the amount of rice or size of the recepticle.

        • The level on your finger for perfect rice will not be the same across every rice cooker but we agree it is different for everyone

          • +1

            @WilhelmBargo: Cooking time and temperature varies but the water level for your preferred rice doesn't.

            This is a foolproof method used for 100s of years which I actually learned from an old Japanese man as a kid. I'm a chef (which really doesn't make a difference as I still see many who need to measure things and use a rice cooker) but I've used this method all my life and see it used everywhere in various forms thoughout many cultures.

            For example, try it with the 1:1.5 method, or the Chinese method or the Indian method. Choose one. Measure it out according to that method then check the level on your finger. Next time measure it out with that same method but with a different amount of rice in a different sized cooker. The water level will be in exactly the same spot on your finger.

            Rice is the easiest thing to cook but seems to be one of the most troublesome. Anyone can cook perfect rice. Find your level in your preferred cooker and you never ever need to measure again regardless of how much or little rice you are cooking.

        • +1

          Not exactly true, if you were to place an equal amount of rice in 2 containers, 1 wide and 1 narrow, you'd require more water to reach the same level on your finger for the wider container.

          • -3

            @Rorzaborg: Yes, but the water level is on the same spot on your finger. Get it?

            • +1

              @Freezies: That's the problem. It may take 2 cups of water for the wider container to reach the same spot on my finger, where as the narrow may only take 1 cup to reach the same spot, but still only has the same amount of rice.

              • -2

                @Rorzaborg: You are missing the point entirely and confusing yourself. Stop overthinking it and look at your first comment. To reach the same level.

                How much water used is irrelevant and the entire point of this method as it is used so that you don't have to calculate and measure out how much water to use. Find the level and it will always be the same spot regardless of how the amount of rice or size of the container.

                The same amount of rice in two different containers will use the same amount of water. The level will be different heights in each container but from the tip of the rice to the water level will be the same distance. Water displacement.

                • +1

                  @Freezies: I disagree. I needed to re-evaluate the level of water on my finger after I started using another pot. For years I used half of my first knuckle, I now use a full knuckle.

                  • -6

                    @Rorzaborg: Then you are outside the laws of science and physics on planet earth.

                    Imagine you are measuring out your rice with cups for a recipe. Does the recipe change when you are using a different pot. No.

                    Look at your rice packet. Does the the water to rice ratio on rice packets change? No.

                    Look at each persons preferred ratios for cooking rice. Does it change with different sized cookers? No.

                    It never changes because the water to rice ration NEVER changes. The water displacement NEVER changes.

                    Your new pot must be losing water somewhere. mate.

                    • @Freezies: You're not understanding the concept.

                      Picture you put a cup of rice and 2 cups of water in your favorite pot.

                      • Then picture you put your finger on the surface of the rice. It hits the first knuckle on your finger.
                      • Suddenly the pot was double the diameter, the height between the rice and water will not be the same.
                      • It will not reach the same height on your finger

                      If the volumes do not change for rice recipes but the height of water you are adding to a nominal container do - you are not adding the correct volumes

                      • -2

                        @WilhelmBargo: You can't seem to wrap your head around it and continue to confuse yourself, mate.

                        The height of the water changes, but the amount of water to reach that height doesn't.

                        ..and yes, the difference between the top of the rice and the water level is always the same when you are using the same ratio whether its water:rice or person:bath. Water displacement.

                        This will be the last time I say it as I'm really just repeating the same thing but if you are still confused or disagree then just go into your kitchen right now and do it yourself. Measure out 1:1.5 rice:water in one container and do the same in a different container then measure from the top of the rice to the water level in each for yourself. You can't change science.

                        The simple fact that a rice packet will say something like "measure out 1 and a half cups of water for each cup of rice" on every packet should have been enough for you to realise that it is always the same regardless of what you are cooking it in.

                        Again, to repeat what I literally just said. **The height of the water changes, but the amount of water to reach that height doesn't. **

                        Have a good day.

                    • @Freezies: Ratio's are a dynamic number based upon the amount of rice used, your finger is a static measurement. Big difference.

                      1.5cm of water in a 25cm container = 0.736L above the rice
                      1.5cm of water in a 15cm container = 0.265L above the rice

                      The rice volume does not change based upon the container it is in, the volume of water displaced does not either, we are however adding water to a set line which does change the volume base upon the width of the container.

                      I'm open to being proven wrong, please provide links or a breakdown of your maths and I will change my mind.

                      • @Rorzaborg: i put my foot down from my chair reading this…too complicated lol

                        stick to 1st knuckle rule

                        • @JepunK: Haha I apologize for that, and I totally agree, I stick to the knuckle rule as well since it works with my current pot!

                        • @JepunK: lol the first nuckle rule is incredibly simple, it's only if you want to question whether it works everything gets awfully complicated.
                          When it was mentioned "It doesn't matter who much water" I reckon the theory is pokus :)

                      • -5

                        @Rorzaborg: You are still getting confused.

                        3 cups of water to 2 cup of rice in container A) and the same in container B). The amount of water is the same. 3 cups. The water height in the containers is different but they will both be "1.5cm" from rice to water level because of the weight of the rice and volume of the water.

                        I can see the logic you are trying to use but you don't realise that you have literally shown that you you already know and understand the concept but your mind is in a loop and you are overthinking and calculating it backwards.

                        I do not need to provide links as this is very basic science you have already learned as a child. I already said to go and do it yourself in your own kitchen which you probably should just go and do. Your brain has tunnel vision at the moment and I am sure that sometime later today it will click.

                        Edit - Guess I'm getting negged by all those who never finished primary school. Maybe you should all go and do this little kids project in your kitchen and see for yourselves. I'm done explaining basic science.

                        • @Freezies: You seem to be the only person of this belief I think you should go back through all responses and take your own advice buddy. I don't need to convince you that you're clearly wrong.

                          • -1

                            @WilhelmBargo: I am not the only person with this belief, it's Fuqqin science and in this case, something used by chefs and people all over the world for centuries.

                            Lol it's unbelievable really. Go reread it all yourself and see. It started out with one calling the knuckle rule "a dumb rule" because of X and I defended it only to have those defending that statement finish off by saying "that"s why they stick to the knuckle rule" which is what I was defending and explaining the science behind this whole time.

                            No point educating the stupid and the ignorant. Have a good day.

                        • @Freezies: So the volume of water above the rice is the total volume of water minus the displacement volume of rice. That's going to be constant, regardless of the size and shape of the vessel. That much you seem to understand. What you are failing to understand (whilst being exceptionally condescending and rude to others pointing out your error) is that constant "excess" volume will be of a different depth.

                          Let's use your "1 cup" excess example. Pour that into any one of your cooking pots. Take another "1 cup" of water, but this time leave it in the cup. Which one is deeper? Go and check now then report back. We'll wait.

                          • -2

                            @banana365: How are you people getting so confused over basic science.
                            I am having person after person attack and argue against what I said, which is basic science. One who argued the most finished by literally agreeing with what I had said in the beginning despite still arguing against me and now you are here failing to see the same thing.

                            I am explaining the knuckle rule and why it works. How are you you all still arguing against it. You all have this mob mentality and don"t even realise that most of you are acutally arguing against me depsite agreeing with what I have said, yet are getting confused in your own heads because you are looking to disagree with me rather than see what I have actually been saying.

                            You are all literally agreeing yet arguing because you are going at it all backwards and getting confused. I have been patient, but this stupidity has gone too far. You're all right, a handful of Ozbargainers know better than a tried and true method used by professionals for centuries not only that, but you have proven that science is wrong.

                            The end.

                            • @Freezies: Hmmm, glad you are a chef and not a science teacher, because you have it oh so wrong. What makes it worse is that you have not pulled your head out far enough to look at the explanations people have given you.
                              As others have pointed out the distance from the top off the rice to the top of the water (the knuckle depth) will have vastly different volumes depending on the vessel used. The volume of water that is contained under the level of the rice will be a constant, this will be defined by the void ratio of the rice.
                              Egg on a face is best removed before it dries.

                        • +1

                          @Freezies: I don't know how to explain it to you in a way the you will understand. But you should probably go back to school yourself pal.

                          1. Weight has nothing to do with volume
                          2. I'm not in a loop, I'm applying simple year 9 mathematics to a volumetric problem, it's really not that hard.
                          3. Have you tried your experiment? Because you'd prove yourself wrong.

                          The rice always displaces the same amount of water, no matter what container it is in. Right? The problem is, that you need to add water to reach the 1.5cm line.

                          "I do not need to provide links as this is very basic science you have already learned as a child." - How old are you? 12?

                          • -3

                            @Rorzaborg: I stick to the knuckle rule as well since it works with my current pot!

                            You literlaly just said before that you use the knuckle rule despite having argued against me this whole time for defending it. How does the knuckle rule work for you if everything I am saying is wrong? You have been arguing against me this whole time for defending the knuckle rule and explaining the science behind it yet agreeing with me at the same time. It's all there in the comments. Get your head straight, mate.

                            • +1

                              @Freezies: "I stick to the knuckle rule as well since it works with my current pot!"

                              Reading comprehension is hard.

                            • +1

                              @Freezies: If you go to a more extreme case, imagine putting the rice inside a large test tube. The rice will fill to the top of the test tube, and therefore your finger won't even reach the bottom. Now put the rice inside a kiddie pool. How much water do you need to fill the kiddie pool to the knuckle?

                              How do you use the "knuckle rule" with that? The assumption here is the diameter of rice cookers are about the same, and so the height of the water can be used to determine the volume.

                              • -3

                                @highwind: How is it everyone is arguing against me yet agreeing with what I have been saying? You all just jump in midway not even knowing WTF you are attacking/defending. Welcome to Ozbargain where people just want to argue regardless of actual beliefs.

                                • @Freezies: Volume = Area x height
                                  Area = pi * radius ^2

                                  Let's say a test-tube has radius of 2cm. Area is pi * 2^2 = 4pi cm^2. Volume of water to get 1.5cm height: 6 * pi cm^3
                                  Kiddie pool has radius of 100 cm (1m). Area is pi
                                  100^2 = 10'000 * pi cm^2. Volume of water to get 1.5cm height: 15'000 * pi cm^3

                                  The assumption of the knuckle method is the height of the rice is the same when spread uniformly across the base of the container, which relies on the container being roughly the same radius, or you scale the amount of rice relative to the size of the container.

                                  • @highwind: Great example. Unfortunately I don't think we'll get anywhere.

                                    • @Rorzaborg: Here's a better example. We have two different jars https://i.etsystatic.com/8788376/r/il/ab83c7/1421047994/il_5…

                                      Let's assume that both jars on the left are of the same height. If we put the same amount of rice and water in both of those jars, water level will be lower in the bottom one since it is wider, while the opposite is true with smaller one where water level will be higher. Finger fail.

                              • @highwind: Nice work Highwind - this might the one example that helps Freezies understand what everyone has been trying to explain. Maybe they'll get it, but most likely not. But you can't really write it any clearer :)

                                • +5

                                  @baxter: As an actual scientist, I had a bit of a deeper look into it, this article kind of explains why the "knuckle method" is a good approximation for standard rice in typical containers: https://www.exploratorium.edu/food/simmering-rice

                                  There are two main assumptions:
                                  1) the amount of excess water you add due to your "knuckles" is from evaporation, which is based on surface area (and therefore scales with the container).
                                  2) the rice only requires the water that sits around the rice, and none of the excess at the top.

                                  If these two assumptions are correct, then the knuckle method will work for any container. However, rice that are extra thirsty would fail (e.g. brown rice), and similarly containers that have higher/lower evaporation rate would also fail (e.g. open pot vs sealed container).

                                  • @highwind: That makes sense, I've noticed a difference in water needed depending on the pot lid I've used before.

                                    I've also noticed that I've had to experiment a lot with water ratio's to get a good consistancy with this microwave cooker, I'm guessing this would correlate with the difference in heat delivery via a microwave vs a stove top.

                                  • @highwind: I was reading this thread just to get to this point, which was the point I got to in my head. It probably works because the surface are of e.g. a test tube is small, so the evaporation will be slower and it might (to some extent) balance out the fact that it's much less volume of water above the rice level because the steam can't escape as easily, and if there's a lid there's much less volume of air to escape in.

                                    Further my guess would be that it works because people aren't usually cooking in test tubes, and all pot dimensions are roughly the same ratios and near enough is good enough. If only we could have got here sooner.

                                    Cooking contains a lot of common sense, surely anyone who's cooked brown rice once knows to use more water, and maybe to cook a bit longer, than white.

      • +1

        Works perfectly for me and i got hands of a teenage girl hahaha

      • It has nothing to do with radius if the post and flat bottom. The ratio for rice & water can be decided by the depth of both. Remember that rice has gaps inbetween, so measure by cups is more accurate.
        End product is subject to the type of the rice and your preference of the hardness of the cooked rice.

    • +5

      Am I the only one to find that guy incredibly cringe?

      • +3

        yes and a little bit offensive.

        • +4

          HAAIIYAAAA

      • +2

        somewhat funny the first viral video. but it's the same recycled content by now.

      • +1

        It's a character created by a comedian, Nigel Ng. I find the character to be a bit of a prick but he's pretty good as a comedian. The character's rice rants do crop into his act at times but they seem toned down. The Uncle Roger video got him a lot of views so I can understand why he's gone hard in the follow ups.

    • +1

      Would never cook rice in microwave. Proper pressure rice cooker ftw

      • finally. pressure cooker rice ftw yaas

    • I use this rule. And it has always worked with Asian brand rice.

    • +1

      Haiiyaaaaa

    • I used to use this trick but it doesn't really work for brown rice. :(

  • +3

    For anyone using the Blue Sistema 'Klip-It' Range, they've been changed recently.

    They been upgraded to 'Sistema Klip-It Plus', where the clip is on the lid instead of the container and the rubber moulded to the lid (therefore not backward compatible)

    Old KLIP IT -> New KLIP IT PLUS

    • +2

      Does it mean it no longer leaks like a fire hydrant

      • +1

        Could be the case. The product description has:

        Designed with a built in leak proof seal

        Design is similar to the Decor Match-ups Range

  • +6

    Microwave Rice?!?!?!?! haiyaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

  • +1

    Just purchase a couple.
    Amazing product.
    Just put some rice in,water and pop it in the microwave.
    At this price buy some for friends.
    Crikey,get some for enemies ….. they might get to like you!

    • how long does it take in the microwave?

      • For me it's about 9.5 mins in my LG Neochef for 100g basmati rice and 250ml water. 100g is actually about 125ml in my measuring cup so it's 1:2 rice to water by volume. YMMV depending on the rice and microwave.

      • Just popped some in the microwave, a 20+ year old Tiffany from Target.

        12 - 13 minutes on high. Let it rest.

  • What is 100% virgin plastic?

    • Not recycled i assume

    • +12

      those juniors at the end of "mean girls'

    • +1

      A 20 year old checkout chick named Tiffany from Target.

      • +1

        plastic probably not virgin.

    • Chosen as a more effective marketing term than "been around the block a bit but can teach you a thing or two plastic" for some reason.

  • Thanks OP

  • For real who tf is making rice with these?

    • +2

      I do. I occasionally eat rice but not enough to buy a dedicated appliance. Also too lazy to cook rice on the stove - failed that too many times.

      • +7

        You better not have a toaster…

        • I eat toast everyday. It makes sense to own a toaster.

        • Can't make toast in a microwave

    • +2

      I've been cooking rice on a stove top for 55 years.

      These are brilliant.

      Good for pulses as well. Chick peas,etc.

    • +4

      I only use these to make rice lol, so damn easy

    • +5

      Ever tried it? They're bloody fantastic.

    • +1

      I've been using normal rice cookers for 10+ years until I discovered this thing. Rice seems nicer and definitely cooked faster. Potentially less energy consumed as well

  • +1

    Fantastic for leached plastic with your carbs!

    • -3

      Why is that fantastic?

      • +1

        Teach this guy sarcasm.

        • -2

          There was no tag

          • +2

            @jv: Did you really need it?

            • +2

              @Freezies: It makes it easier for algorithm to pick up…

              • +2

                @jv: Bots don't need rice cookers.

  • +2

    I've got one of these. It's a lot of trial and error to get the rice cooked correctly for the amount of rice that you're using. Ended up just using a rice cooker.

    • You could try measuring the rice and the water.
      After the first go,I just extended the cooking time.
      Easier than boiling an egg!

    • I use one, double the amount of water per cups of rice, hit the rice button on the microwave and let stand for 5 mins after.

  • +2

    I had a look at one in the supermarket, arent these just a regular microwave container just with a scoop included?

    • No. This one has a clear concave removable insert under the lid which prevents 'froth' from boiling rice spilling out and down the sides. It's a good design actually because I've seen another type that looks similar but it's more like plain tupperware. This has four click-lock hinges (not attached bendy tabs that break off after a while). Unclip them and you can get the top off without burning fingers.

      I get the best results cooking on full power for 12 minutes, leaving to sit for 5 with the lid on. Then stir.

      • Wow, 12 minutes? I don't need half that time for one cup of rice.

        • +1

          Unsure what you meant. Less than 6 minutes using a microwave, saucepan, rice cooker, buying from a takeaway? ;-)

          But if you just meant half the time using one of these, I'm sorry, that's just not (literally) true. Most times I put 3/4 to 1 cup in. And at less than six minutes you've barely begun boiling the water. I've used it in 3 different microwaves. My current microwave = 1000W. So to more than halve that 12 minutes you'd need more than double that power to over 2000W. While the typical upper limit of consumer microwaves is 1200W.

          If you meant using a saucepan on a hotplate, I would have preferred that method to using a microwave. So I tried it. Time after time on the same night. I followed the highest-rated/most-famous youtube clips (so I could SEE it was working for them, not just read it). Copied what they did exactly. It didn't come close to working. But read in this thread and nearly everyone is doing the same thing and getting great results.

          On the hotplate the rice either burned to the bottom or produced Clag paste. Given enough attempts anyone could get it to work most times. But what happens when you change rice type, or brand, or use someone else's stove… Pass.

          This unit is so easy. You set it, forget it, and go prepare the rest of the meal knowing the result will be right-on 19 times out of 20. It's cooked and rested 5 minutes (ready to fluff up) just as you finish the rest of the meal, rather than setting a timer, stopping your other prep to turn a hotplate down. And if you get distracted it's not ruined. It sits in the container slowly getting cooler. You make up for that heat loss by putting it on the plate later. But get distracted by the phone or doorbell with a conventional coil hotplate and see what the result is.

          The 1 time out of 20 this doesn't work perfectly, the rice might need a little longer in the microwave to remove more water, or needs water added if the rice is getting dry. And that probably only happens because I measure water by eye. If I did what like others here do it would probably be fine every time.

          That said, I get best results using jasmine rice.

  • +2

    Also great for steaming vegetables

  • +5

    Came here thinking reading the comments would make me not buy it. Bought it. 🤦‍♂️

  • +1

    Bought it for the convenience and an extra for my lazy brother

  • +2
    • 2 cups of boiling water to every 1 cup of rice (plus as much salt as your arteries can handle)
    • Stir
    • 5 mins in the microwave on high
    • Stir
    • 10 mins on 40% power
    • Enjoy :)

    This works every time in our 1000w microwave.
    We lost the 'pressure chamber tray' and it works just the same without.

    • Too complicated. ;-) No salt, 12 minutes on full, 5 minutes rest with lid on. Fluff rice.

      • That's 17 minutes.

    • -1

      15 minutes in a microwave ???

      Might as well cook on a stove.

      • 12 not 15. If you want to eat it earlier, do so. And see my other block of text above. If it was as simple, with as wide a range for error as cooking a piece of meat, then sure. But rice is not necessarily easy to get right on a stove top. Goodness knows I've put more effort into trying than most people could be bothered with and failed. This just works. And even if it 'fails' the result is still edible, unlike a stove top which can produce a chewy brown mess or clag paste.

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