I know these don't seem to contain the helium drives but still a great price, maximum order quantity of 3.
Edit: looks like price is back up to $290.74 - wait for Black Friday I guess…
CamelCamelCamel.
Which WD drives are not SMR?
Are these 10 or 12TB SMR?
6TB and below are known to be SMR, So 8TB and above are most likely CMR.
8TB and up are CMR
12TB and 14TB are Helium.
@Trance N Dance: Is there an article on what all this means to the layman? CMR, SMR, Helium, etc what does it all mean?
Looking at high capacity storage options for the near future.
@JH100: I hear you, I swear there’s new acronyms every time HDs are posted haha. Anyway I googled and found this.
https://blog.westerndigital.com/new-generation-14tb-hard-dri…
@Jake T: Thanks - will give it a look when time allows.
We'll need assistants soon if the world keeps burgeoning like this.
There is a Seagate 16TB for $428.40 delivered from Amazon UK if you are in a rush and looking for a high capacity drive.
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08899GVT6
Price per TB = $26.78
You can look for info on this drive here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/559491
is it SMR?
CMR afaik
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14297/seagate-starts-shipment…
Drive is Exos X16 ST16000NM001G (16TB)
I got some of these, great drives being the Exos variant but noisy AF.
Absolutely. I directly bought an Exos X16 16TB and it was an absolute monster in terms of noise.
I got the 14TB WD Elements drives earlier, and they are helium-filled and damn near silent.
Really hoping this will go under 400 on BF/CM
I will wait for black friday.
i've seen someone reported that 8tb and 10tb version are not helium anymore…12TB and above would be safer
is helium mainly for lower temps or performance?
bigger issue for me whether it is a SMR drive
Much, much quieter.
so better temps and lower noise level
but performance is the same?
@pinkybrain: Helium doesn't really affect performance at all.
The bigger difference is made by the rotational speed - 7200rpm drives are louder, hotter and faster, 5400rpm drives are quiet, cool and "slow".
Now, "slow" in this case still means ~210MB/s sequential read and write speeds. For simultaneous access they slow right down, and are especially terrible at random I/O (which is a big reason why SSDs are so much more responsive, other than the improved sequential speeds).
You also want to watch out for SMR drives (which these are not) if you're using them in RAID (especially ZFS "zRAID") or doing anything that might annoy them.
The first one I shucked was helium, the 7 after that weren't. Currently running in a QNAP TS-851, the helium is at 38c and the others hover between 41-42c (acceptable but not ideal).
What is the maximum supported temp for helium and non helium hdd?
I think for most the maximum is 60c but the following is a rough guide (taken straight from google):
Less than 25°C: Too cold
25°C to 40°C: Ideal
41°C to 50°C: Acceptable
More than 50°C: Too hot
last time I got two of these they were WD100EMAZ drive which are white label WD Reds.
but that was a couple of years ago.
WD = not shuckable?
Has there ever been 3.5" drives that weren't shuckable?
No.
Plenty of 2.5" drive-based external drives can't be shucked as they have a USB interface directly soldered to them and there's no easy way to hook them up to a normal PC.
Almost all (possibly all) 3.5" drive based external drives are standard drives with an adapter board attached to them and are shuckable.
I've bought 4x of the 14TB version of this product and shucked all 4 successfully.
you need to cover one of the pins once it is shucked
i just used a molex to sata power cable rather than modifying the drive itself.
those are considered fire hazzard
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupportgore/comments/5cy0q5/i_n…
it is not hard to cover the pin with some tape (most people got some sort of tape)
+ it looks nicer than have another molex to sata cable, better cable management and aesthetic
+ less of a fire hazzard
+ you don't need to buy molex to sata power cable
@pinkybrain: Just don't buy cheap adapters. The failure out at the sata end, which could happen to any sata connector.
@Sleepycat3: no, that is not the case.. these molex adapters actually increase the fire hazzard risk due to how they are made, not cos of the price..
there's no guarantee that just cos you paid for a more expensive cable, that it won't happen.
Go read the entire thread..
Also this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/9mq6e4/molex_to_s…
Also see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyy_WOSdVc
It is not worth risking using these molex adapters
considering that using sticky tape method is not that hard to do
and doesn't cost me anything extra
and I don't need to buy the molex adapters..
BTW you can use any sticky tape that you got, even label make tape works.
No need to get kapton tape
So why go through all this
when the sticky tape method works and does not have those cons..
or any cons that I can think of.
This is the tutorials to follow for covering the pin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YqMn1pCRd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W3-uOl4ruc
@pinkybrain: Crimped adapters shouldn't be a problem, it's the molded ones that should never be used. Problem is most cheap to moderate priced ones are molded and crimped are few and far between.
@Trance N Dance: But why go for this option
when covering it with tape is the cheapest, easiest, and safest option..
It the fastest option, if you don't currently have any of these molex adapters.
It is also the option that gives you the most flexibility in being able to use it on other PC or hdd dock.
You just pull it out and plug it in to any other sata cable or hdd dock
like it was any other normal hdd.
@pinkybrain: I'm not saying to go for that option. I'm just saying that if you must use molex to sata, make sure to use crimped connectors and not molded ones. And I can only think of one reason for using such an adapter, and that is if you're out of sata plugs and only have free molex plugs left.
Or just clip the 3.3v wire at the psu end of the cable.
@shiftyphil: Best option
-just simply cover the 3.3V pin of the hdd with sticky tape..
No need to cut any wires that is permanent
and once the hdd has tape covering the pin, you can move it to any pc or hdd dock that you have..
without having to clip any other cables on any other pc and you can also use it in a dock.
This is pretty much the best method that offers flexibility in using the hdd anywhere
and does not require cutting any cables on your PC..
Was super easy using the tape!
Back to $290.94?
Yes looks like it, I have Prime, damn
Waiting for that 12TB to pop up again