I've been looking for a decent deal for widewheel since 2019, and finally pulled trigger this time.
Single Motor 10A $1,116 https://scooterhut.com.au/mercane-electric-scooter-widewheel…
Dual Motor 15A $1423.20 https://scooterhut.com.au/mercane-electric-scooter-widewheel…
20% off almost everything except KAABO, EVOLVE, SEGWAY.
From ecorides:
In Victoria it's legal to ride an Electric scooter however must be limited to less than 200w in power output and capable of speeds below 10km/h are permitted for use on public roads and footpaths. We believe escooters below 200watts of power would struggle to keep someone above 10km/h on any type of hill.
The laws are written a little bit differently, not stating what the requirements are to comply rather stating if it has certain features then it doesn’t comply.
- If your Motorised Scooter is powered by a petrol motor,
- has an electric motor with a maximum power greater than 200 watts,
- has a maximum speed greater than 10 km/h,
then it cannot be legally used on Australian Roads or any road related areas, including footpaths, share paths and public areas
The fine for an illegal device is $826.
then it cannot be legally used on Australian Roads or any road related areas, including footpaths, share paths and public areas
A bit pointless then if I can only ride it around the house…
Yes, sadly even the single motor scooter here is 500W and has a top speed of 25kph, so neither of them would be remotely legal in Vic.
You can ride electric scooters in Qld.
Edit: I take it back. Rules seem questionable. What a pain, I was thinking of getting an eglide - now not sure.
Perfectly legal in QLD. Do you enjoy reading your own comments so much you find every possible place to put your 2c in whether it's relevant or not?
Do you enjoy reading your own comments
I don't read my comments, just write them.
Do you read your own comments?
Maybe you should have said are these legal to use in VIC on public roads and paths.
Rather than making a statement that you yourself suspect may not be true.
Better yet, link people to this address of every states electric scooter laws
Maybe you should have said are these legal to use in VIC on public roads and paths.
Rather than making a statement that you yourself suspect may not be true.
Your link states:
Victorian law stipulates that a motorised scooter cannot travel faster than 10km/h. Additionally, a motorised scooter must have a maximum power output of 200 watts or less.
At 25km/hr and 500W, this clearly exceeds what is allowed under the VIC law…
NSW customers, please note that it is currently not legal to ride an electric or motorised scooter in NSW unless you are solely riding it on private property; it is prohibited to use on roads or footpaths. You will likely be fined if caught using one of these.
Not trying to be a killjoy - I absolutely wish they were legal - just warning people about the risks as a good community member so they don't find themselves over $1100 out of pocket for a very large paperweight.
I wonder why this is the case.
I mean you can ride a push bike on the road and go up to 25km/hr easy.
I mean you can ride a push bike on the road and go up to 25km/hr easy.
Can also do it with a motorbike…
See the difference ???
From Astor Legal's very helpful page on this issue:
In New South Wales the Road Transport Act defines a “vehicle” as being any description of vehicle on wheels. It goes on to define a “motor vehicle” as being “a vehicle that is built to be propelled by a motor that forms part of the vehicle” and a motorcycle as being a “motor vehicle with two wheels”. While there are exceptions for some power assisted / motorised bicycles these exceptions do not apply to scooters. This is because a motorised bicycle uses a motor to assist the rider. Electric scooters do not have pedals and are therefore legally defined as a motorcycle.
Electric scooters currently fall into the category of being a registerable vehicle. However, as they don’t meet the Australian Design Standards they are ineligible for registration.
However, as they don’t meet the Australian Design Standards
I heard they had issues with the crash test dummies test…
grey area.
some electric scooters need to be pushed to start the motor.
therefore, it's assisting for a longer glide.
I remember one guy on a aus subreddit got fined almost $2500. Apparently the cops thought riding an electric scooter was almost as bad as driving an unregistered unroadworthy car.
Apparently the cops thought riding an electric scooter was almost as bad as driving an unregistered unroadworthy car.
Would you ride an unregistered motorbike or car on the road? Regardless of whether it's roadworthy or not…
My point is that riding an electric scooter should not attract the same penalties as something as bad as driving an unregistered unroadworthy car.
riding an electric scooter should not attract the same penalties as something as bad as driving an unregistered unroadworthy car.
What about an unregistered unroadworthy electric scooter compared to an unregistered unroadworthy car?
My point is that riding an electric scooter should not attract the same penalties as something as bad as driving an unregistered unroadworthy car.
As a fellow flightless bird, I got your back @chickendinner123. Have an upvote.
I read that story as well. That cops reaction was over the top so I think he had some personal issue. I've seen several electric scooters in my Qld regional town so thought they were legal. I think the local cops here are very reasonable and choose to ignore them.
I have an electric scooter and I have ridden past the police on many occasions without a blink of an eye from them.
I wear a helmet, I use lights at night, I ride safely, I stay in the bike lane, I never flip the bird at them!!
If I was a copper I don't think I would be interested in booking people on a scooter doing 25kph in the bike lane with their helmets on.
I'm not sure if this has been fixed but the WideWheel pro has an annoying throttle delay not found in the original/non pro model.
Legal in QLD
This is coming from a state makes it mandatory for taxis to carry a bale of hay in their boot.
not anymore.
https://www.gotocourt.com.au/legal-news/weird-australian-law…
"A really common claim was that taxis are supposed to carry a bale of hay at all times. This would have made sense when the taxi was a horse-drawn cart. Now, not so much.
You may be pleased to know that there is no evidence that the law still exists anywhere in the country. You may also be pleased to know that hoteliers are also no longer required to stable, feed, and water horses."
not anymore.
You might want to tell Sam from 13cabs at Brisbane airport then. Had to put my suitcase in the back seat.
I'm not a fan of these - if you're in Brisbane go to iScoot in Newstead and test ride a whole bunch IMO.
I agree, I upgraded from the Xiaomi M365 to the Single Motor Widewheel 2020 and I'm not sure I would do it again if given the opportunity.
Pros:
Stable - wide flat wheels keep you upright, if you slip on wet patches, you won't be taking over like I did with my M365
Dual brakes - great, the M365 brakes were not good for rolling down hills
Solid wheels - No pumping up tires whenever you want to go!
Cons:
Large & Heavy - difficult to carry or store anywhere
Build issues - I've got slight alignment issues which nudge the steering to the left, also some pieces of plastic which have cracked because they were so thin (used tape to hold this back on). I've called Scooter Hut about these issues but they never returned my call.
Harder to steer - the wide wheels mean you need to have a wide turn angle, you will lose the feeling of being nimble from the M365, it's more like driving a tank
Driving quirks - whenever the scooter hits a gap in the pavement, it thinks it's in trouble and cuts out the power, giving you a jolting stop. This is an utterly stupid design and makes my morning commute rather unenjoyable anticipating it trying to throw me off randomly.
I honestly should've just bought the M365 Pro and saved myself the extra $600.
Thanks for the comparison. Have had the m365 for a year and was contemplating the Mercane…
I ended up getting an Inokim Ox and I absolutely love it. A decent financial investment but it's the smoothest ride you'll ever have.
I think these are illegal to use in VIC on public roads and paths…