Has AMD (and to a Lesser Extent Nvidia) Created The Perfect Storm for Gamers - Medium and Heavy Alike

With the release of the 5000 series AMD CPUs and Radeon 6000 series GPUs, has AMD, not only set the new CPU benchmark by blazing past Intel's chips and equaling NVidia but at a lower cost base, but also extended the life of past gen CPUs and GPUs.

Pending ACTUAL gaming benchmarks utilising a range of GPUs(which may already be up on YouTube as I write this), gamers seem to have the opportunity for 3 easy and affordable upgrades :

  1. Keep my Intel/AMD3000 CPU and spend the money on a better 3080/6800XT to increase my FPS hopefully by at least 20%.
  2. Keep my 5800XT/2070Super and upgrade to AMD's 5000 CPU (motherboard dependant) to increase my FPS hopefully by at least 20%.
  3. Upgrade both CPU(possibly motherboard if coming from Intel) and GPU - FPS increase is dependant on where you are coming from.

Under normal circumstances, the Light Gamer is the winner when new hardware is released as they suck up all the cheap stock of outdated hardware but, with the 5000 series CPU being so good and the lack of stock of 30 series Nvidia GPUs, I feel it is going to be a tough road for them. On the other hand, option 3 may be more affordable as ever because you won't have to 'give away' your old tech to make way for new.

The mostly predicted crash in 20 series GPUs has not materialised and is less likely now - in fact the 2070Super I bought on sale is now $140-$240 dearer @ MSY/PCCAseGear.

If the BIOS upgrades for B450's occurs for most boards, their life span and desirability will now increase as a cheap avenue to build a good cheap system. If not, the AMD 3000 CPUs will remain strong as supply is likely to dwindle and B450's will support them.

This should mean that the 2nd hand market should also stay strong if everyone doesn't just dump all their hardware at once. Anybody who did that as part of the 30 series overhype may now be regretting that as they sit in a waiting list trying to decide if they keep hanging on or swap to a Radeon - whereas they may have been able to upgrade to a 5000 series CPU and extend the life of their 2080Ti until the prices of new cards stabalised.

Option 1 is totally reliable on the availability/affordability of the Radeon 6000 series and future stock of Nvidia 30 series. I am worried about the Aus price due to the obvious ramping on the 5000 series CPU. Now AMD new their benchmarks of the 5000 series CPU was going to blow away Intel and their own chips, so they had some wiggle room, whereas the Radeon 6000 seems on par with Nvidia so they may have to make it a value sale to increase market share. Of course, the lack of Nvidia availabilty doesn't help…

I personally got a 3700X @ $415 from CA EBay sale so 5000 series does not make sense. I was hoping for a 5700X at a reasonable price so the 3700X is still in it's box but I will probably take option 1 and match it with a 6800XT. I have a spare B450 board that I will wait to see what happens with the BIOS and may use a 5000 series on it to stretch the legs of the 2070 Super that will be replaced by the 6800XT - if I can get one…

So what do you guys think???

Poll Options expired

  • 1
    Keep CPU and Upgrade GPU until CPU prices are more reasonable
  • 0
    Keep GPU and Upgrade CPU until GPU prices are more reasonable
  • 4
    All in with CPU and GPU upgrade to watch those FPS fly
  • 16
    Wait till all prices normalise and see what is available
  • 1
    Keep what I got because all I play is Golf and FPS don't matter

Comments

  • +1

    Real question is what monitor do you use?

    • Asking the real questions!

      Cheapest?
      Dual monitors?
      Multi (> 3) monitors?
      4K monitor?

      It really affects what level of GPU you need:
      - Intel Iris to AMD Vega (iGPU = Non-3D)
      - GT 1030 to GTX 1650 (Low Profile = Basic 3D)
      - GTX 1060 to GTX 1660 (Low Budget = 1080p)
      - RX 5600Xt to RX 5700Xt (Midrange = 1440p)
      - GTX 1080 to RTX 2080Ti (High-end = 1440p+)
      - RX 5800 to RX 5900Xt (Luxury = 4K = 16GB VRAM only)

  • +1

    You're debating upgrading a 12 - 18 month old machine?

    • I am not sure of your point - I have not debated anything but merely made some suggestions based on my understanding of the current market. If you wish to disagree and offer some counter arguments then it becomes a debate - which I am more than happy to hear as opposing views are what makes everyone smarter. What I wouldn't like to hear is 'AMD sucks so your suggestions suck' as comments like this just make everyone just that little bit dumber…

      As for '12-18 month old machine', I mentioned no dates just versions of technology. I just upgraded a Dell XPS8700 with a new power supply and an RX570 as it's power supply and R9 270 died. This is a 6 year old machine that now works better than ever as an XRay machine and viewer…. You do help make my point with the dates though as it is because of AMD guaranteeing a long life cycle for it's AM4 socket that we can even consider updating a B450 to a 5600X and Radeon 6800 and save money on a motherboard - if that's what we want to do…

      • I personally got a 3700X @ $415 from CA EBay sale

        3700x was released in July last year, and you mentioned you own it.

        Yes it's awesome new tech from AMD, and if you've got the money buy it.

        So what do you guys think???

        I think you're asking for an opinion to upgrade from a 3700x to a 5000 series, and RTX2000 series to RTX3000 series. You want to upgrade to have the top benchmark.

        I think you should keep your current system and save your money for a few more years. Your current system is more than enough.

        A higher number in a benchmark wont make you as happy as getting the best value out of what you already have.

        • The CA EBay sale was 3 weeks ago - I presumed everyone who is upgrading parts knew about it as it was highly anticipated. The 3700X is on the floor in my computer room awaiting install to my PC so not a 12-18 month upgrade.

          'So what do you guys think?' was with regards to the heading and answering the poll. I pointed out what I was doing in the 2nd last paragraph. If you answered the poll you answered my question.. Seems most people reading the forums are just waiting - but then again all those that would check the 3rd box are too busy upvoting a TechFast deal where they get to hand over money and wait in line for cards that don't physically exist yet and are unkown as to when they may actually materialize…

          • @petebern: That's all of us. Not knowing when they will actually appear in stock or at our doors.

            I don't think its good to make a decision now at launch. It'll be good to see the reviews, but even better to see stock and not the 'out of stock' cards. Nvidia 3000 series launched last month and they're still nowhere to be found, so that's a good indicator of high demand PC components.

            I'm waiting too. I'll be upgrading my 6 year old system. I remember the 3300X was launched earlier this year and wasn't seen in stock for a long time after.

            I hope the new console launch will help PC stock, as people put their money there. I also think there's many people like us, saving money all year waiting for this powerful CPU and GPU advertising…

  • +1

    The correct solution is to use your credit card with price protection to buy all new parts and get the difference refunded when prices go down in the next 12/24 months.
    If you don't have a suitable credit card then simply go back in time and get one when the options were available.

  • +1

    The zen 3 is too hype up, all those benchmarks you see in reviews are done at 1080p and 1% of gamers is playing at 1080p with a 2080 super or greater, so the cpu upgrade is a poor choice imo.

    • reviews are done at 1080p and 1% of gamers is playing at 1080p with a 2080

      all credible reviewers test as such to show the performance difference whilst eliminating other factors (remain constant) to get a base point for comparison

      these apply to all other CPU / GPU tests , not just zen3

      you can't deny the % of performance improvement of zen3

      • +1

        all the big "win" are mostly at 1080p, here's the 1440p and 4k benchmark I watched today

        i5-10600k vs 5600x (which is supposedly faster than i9-10900k), pretty much no difference

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_COsGE_K8&t=600s

        yes I agree, like the 5900x (OC) is pretty much on par with the 3950x (stock) in multi core workloads with much faster single cores which are useful in application like ffmpeg, though I doubt this is the reason why people are snapping up the zen 3 cpu

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