Kogan 27" Curved QHD 144hz FreeSync HDR Gaming Monitor (2560x 1440) $399 + Delivery @ Kogan

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LHernie on 10/10/2020 - 10:51 kogan.com (303 clicks)
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Decent deal for a 27" QHD curved monitor.

Was previously priced @ $429 last month.

From website:

Discover unrivalled detail and brilliant imaging as you transform the way you game with this stunning curved QHD gaming monitor, wrapping around your field of view to fully immerse you in the action!

Stunning 27” curved display with QHD 2560 × 1440
Swift 144Hz refresh rate and 5ms (OD) response time
1500R Curve allows eyes to track smoothly across the screen
Uncompromising colour quality with 99% sRGB and 90% DCI-P3 colour gamut
Intense colour display and dynamic imaging with HDR
Eliminate tearing and stuttering with FreeSync

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  v1nn1e on 10/10/2020 - 11:05

  Just saying "VA" panel

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    MasterScythe on 10/10/2020 - 11:07

    +1

    According to all the people in the DELL deal; VA at 144hz is apparently the best! /s……

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      bargone on 10/10/2020 - 13:03

      For what? AAA titles?

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      bargone on 10/10/2020 - 13:04

      Movies?

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    Bigboomboom on 10/10/2020 - 12:29

    VA has better colour & viewing angle than TN while having deeper black than IPS. It does have poorer motion blur and higher response time, but it costs cheaper. It would be hard to find an 144Hz IPS with all the bell and whistle at this price, even the Korean monitors are getting more expensive nowadays.

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  Thefong on 10/10/2020 - 11:06

  +1

  Gaming monitor. 5ms (OD) response time.

  Pick one.

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    jasswolf on 10/10/2020 - 12:20

    +1

    I pick the third option, where you learn what response times actually are.

    Target response time is just under 7ms for 144Hz, so it's about how many transitions come under 7-8ms that matter the most, not the peak response time.

    This will have some dark smearing and motion blur issues, but I also expect to be a huge improvement on the flaming pile of garbage that was the last Kogan QHD 144Hz model.

    Based on my understanding of Samsung panels and how their response times are rated, this might actually be acceptable and offer similar performance to the CHG70.

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    trueaye on 22/10/2020 - 17:43

    Response time is not latency. I've seen 1ms response time claimed by manufacturers actually range up to 38ms depending on what and how they measure it. It's just advertising that has made us think we need it without really knowing what it is. A millisecond is a thousandth of a second. Pro gamers who swear by 1ms response times are being sponsored by these gaming companies. They don't know shit either.

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  MasterScythe on 10/10/2020 - 11:07

  Samsung VA Panel.
  Just like with the Dell one, where I've been negged for some reason; I'd still advise choosing 120hz or lower as your max refresh rate, because Samsung aren't advertising any new VA developments that would allow the pixel technology to keep up any faster.

  Probably be negged here too; but I don't care, I want people to know who might not otherwise be involved in panel comparisons often.

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    Fooah on 10/10/2020 - 11:22

    I'm completely unaware when it comes to monitors, but I'm looking at buying a monitor for the Ps5 when it comes out, apparently it can output 4k @ 120hz, what would you purchase based on my situation? Would like 1 m/s delay for Fps etc but not sure on the visuals or how any of that works. TIA

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      MasterScythe on 10/10/2020 - 11:35

      In the most simple terms, if you want vibrant colours, with fast pixels, you choose IPS.
      These VA panels have a HUGE advantage in contrast though; and in gaming 'dark scenes' are quite common.

      Do you intend to be using a Keyboard+Mouse for your PS5?
      This isn't an elitism thing, but if not, then you're not going to be moving very fast (by comparison) in an FPS title to notice.
      A response time below 5ms will genuinely be more than enough; "we" (the PC folk) used to game on 12ms panels and some were acceptable.

      In your shoes? I don't think I'd shy away from VA, console games are designed with TV's and 'lounge entertainment' in mind.
      As a sweeping generalization; Any monitor is going to outperform any TV (unless you go flagship OLED $10k+ TVs or Commercial panels).

      If I had to recommend a specific model though?
      https://www.centrecom.com.au/viewsonic-vx2758-2kp-mhd-27-144…
      That would be me safe pick at an affordable price and proven spec.

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      loksmack on 10/10/2020 - 12:54

      +1

      I was trying to make a similar decision for an Xbox series X.

      Although the new consoles can output 120hz, I believe most games will be 60fps. Because of this, I opted for a 4K 60hz monitor. I figure that I’d rather the resolution than the refresh rate because one is more likely to be in games than the other.

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        MasterScythe on 10/10/2020 - 13:09

        By that argument though; you'd be better off with a cheap 4k 32" TV. (financially)

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          loksmack on 10/10/2020 - 15:48

          @MasterScythe: Yeah possibly. It depends I guess.

          I'll be playing at a desk and sitting relatively close. I think 32" might be too big, so went 27". Also using it as a PC monitor.

          I'd love a higher refresh monitor, but the reality is that the majority of XSX/PS5 games will top out at 60fps. Devs have a 4k60 target, so it makes sense (to me) to get a 4k60 monitor rather than 1440p120/144.

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            MasterScythe on 10/10/2020 - 17:55

            @loksmack:

            Also using it as a PC monitor.
            Ah see, that's the catch 22; most people (you may not) feel that at 27" the sweet spot is "2k" or 1440p.

            Thats why I thought 32" TV would be better at 4k, because cheap and big.
            Where as if I was going any smaller, I'd want to avoid 4k (unless you're a mac user) because windows STILL sucks at scaling.

            To each their own; it's all preference at that point.

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              loksmack on 10/10/2020 - 20:26

              @MasterScythe: Yeah I'm a Mac user.

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    jasswolf on 10/10/2020 - 12:22

    -1

    While this is probably a derivative of the CHG70 from 2017 (which is still a huge improvement for Kogan), you seem to have selectively forgotten that the Odyssey G7 and G9 now exist.

    They're beating IPS and competing with TN panels at 240Hz.

    So you're getting downvoted because you're wrong, more so by advising people to drop lower than 120Hz when VA overdrive tuning tends to suck between 70-90 Hz.

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      MasterScythe on 10/10/2020 - 12:32

      you seem to have selectively forgotten that the Odyssey G7 and G9 now exist.

      No, but a single range does not define the industry.
      I also cannot locate them within spitting distance of the price point.

      They're beating IPS and competing with TN panels at 240Hz.

      I still experience sub par viewing angles when deploying anything more than 3 monitors wide (like cockpits).
      I also find it hard to tune the blue-white area, like natural cloud.

      "Beating" is completely situational, and I'll continue to generalize to help out my customers until such a time that the industry makes it the norm.
      It's like refusing to acknowledge that a rotary engine chews fuel; because there's use cases where exact RPM's make it the most efficient engine design.
      It's technically correct, but unless someone comes up with the cash to have you design a CVT to keep it there; what was the point in telling them?

      You forget, most of your customers don't care about the details; they have a budget, and they want the short version of details.
      Generally speaking, people who are planning on spending one thousand dollars on a monitor, aren't looking at the three hundred dollar price point.

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        jasswolf on 10/10/2020 - 12:40

        -1

        Did you just shift from talking about response times to colour accuracy? Of course IPS is going to win there, but this is a non-issue for entertainment purposes on a primary monitor, and IPS achieves that with notable caveats: powdered trailing and horrible reproduction of black and near-black.

        Both of your original assertions were wrong, let's just leave it at that.

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          MasterScythe on 10/10/2020 - 13:05

          @jasswolf:

          Did you just shift from talking about response times to colour accuracy? Of course IPS is going to win there, but this is a non-issue for entertainment purposes

          Yep, certainly did. Most people see in colour and is an important factor to also consider.
          You really can't assume what is or is not an issue for people in their entertainment purposes.

          The last THX certified theater install I was a part of, for example, the owner was OBSESSED with skin tone.
          To the point where the rest of the colours were so out of whack it was 'horrible' to us.
          But to him? Humans looked 'perfect' and that was his requirement for his entertainment purposes.

          Both of my assertions were not wrong, as a generalization trying to run a VA panel at higher than 90hz, can be noticed by humans in an A to B test, as was my original point.

          Just buy what you want, you don't need to convince me, I use commercial panels exclusively and build my own controllers to drive them.
          You're welcome to convince others though.

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            jasswolf on 10/10/2020 - 13:13

            @MasterScythe: Of course I'm speaking generally here, not exceptional use cases, or extremely overdriven (and extremely cooled) panels.

            The G7, when it drops below $750 (or the updated panel is used in other monitors), represents an excellent stopping point until QNED or microLED can out point it.

            Horizontal gamma shift and black shift is real, but as a primary monitor, these are not issues people will typically be concerned with for videos, games and basic productivity.

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  squall3031 on 11/10/2020 - 01:07

  Okay….so, is this a good monitor for gaming? I mainly play single-player games. I don't play competitive online games.

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  MOESHEN on 12/10/2020 - 16:52

  Bought one of these recently, and I have to say it is bar none the worst display I have ever seen. Incredibly dim, contrast is abysmal. Its supposedly a Samsung HDR400 panel, but i assure you it doesn't even reach 200 nits. I can only assume that Samsung threw this panel out for failing all of its tests and Kogan fished it out of the dumpster.

  Turning the HDR setting on will result in what I can only describe as the muddiest experience i have ever seen. Although it does manage to output 144Hz, I doubt it will be of any help if you can't actually make out basic shapes and colours on the screen.

  The navigation controls are a nightmare, especially considering they amount of time you will have to use them to try and get any sort of workable image.

  Overall I wouldn't recommend this product.

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  jasswolf on 09/11/2020 - 18:19

  Deal is back again.