Hi all,
Long time listener, first time caller…
Anyhoo, I've been on the NAS hunt for a little while now and just thought I should post up this bad boy for anyone searching. QNAP Shop says "price drop" but not sure from how much it was or for how long, but seems to be at least $200 cheaper than any other retailer I can find….
Perfect for those home Plex Servers, Surveillance stations and virtualisation stations.
Yowch. I have a TS-451+ upgraded to 8Gb and I paid $455 + $80 for the RAM a few years ago. Seems like these things are just losing the plot if this is a bargain now!
This seems to be a higher end product than the 451+, but the dollar is pretty shit right now so the prices on these things are ridiculous.
I was looking at a NAS a while ago and could easily get one for $400-$500, ended up waiting and got a TS-431KX for about $620 a month ago.
I was in the same boat when I was looking at nas prices, I ended up building a FreeNAS NAS. got the whole build less than 1K with HDD. its got enough power. I can upgrade the CPU if I need later no but I doubt it as it works Beyond my performance expectations.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q764Dc
what does this have to justify the $900ish price tag
The features you see when you click the link
Don’t really understand why these NAS systems cost so much. These consumer level boxes use pretty generic consumer level the PC components, and their software is nothing to write home about.
You can build a far better PC based home server NAS for a lot less. I have an ex-business Core i7 3rd gen (4 core 8 thread) DELL desktop PC I got for free (these usually sell for around $200 on eBay) with 2x 3.5 HDDs in RAID 1, it also has a $100 GT1030 GPU for accelerated video decoding (HTPC use). Pretty sure my $300 DIY NAS with an 8 year old i7 is as good if not better than this $1000 Celeron NAS.
An i7 for a pure NAS? Power consumption would be a fair bit more than a cut down Celeron, plus there's the whole effort factor. I weighted up a nice NAS build to replace my HP Microserver, but went with a NAS because it will just work without much effort.
No, I use it as an HTPC and also to run virtual machines and docker containers for some of my other projects.
But even if I used it purely as a NAS its still cheaper. I measured my PC power usage with a power monitoring plug, it idles around 40~50W and jumps to around 60~70W with video streaming and transcoding. The Qnap server is advertised to idle around 11W with typical operating load of around 26W. If I take a 40W average difference, then my PC will cost $98 more in electricity a year (at an average electricity cost of 28c per kwh). Meaning it’ll take me almost 7 years to surpass the buying and operating cost of the NAS (assuming the cost of the PC at $300). But in the meantime I get a lot more out of the PC.
exactly, i'm running 3 HP Microsevers with unraid, and wondering if going to a nas is worth it over replacing with a AMD based system
Don’t really understand why these NAS systems cost so much.
It's a premium product.
Custom design PCB.
Custom design software.
Support and development.
They found the niche people are ready to pay extra money for.
It's like iPhone - there are people who is ready to pay for nice looking box which works "out of the box" with minimal effort / technical knowledge.
I beg to differ
It's a premium product.
What makes it premium ? I've seen better looking itx PC cases for $150
Custom design PCB.
What is so custom about it ? It has a bog standard Intel Celeron J4125 CPU, standard SODIMM DDR4 RAM. Here is a $250 mini PC that has the exact same configuration; and here is a single board computer with a slightly different J4x celeron CPU for US$120. There are so many cheap "custom" PCB computers out there running Celerons, I don't see how this is any different.
Custom design software.
QTS is just another linux distro. There are dozens of Free linux distros out there. FreeNAS is a comparable software, but as the name suggest its completely free. I admit it costs money to develop software, but this is nothing out of the ordinary. Unraid is a commercial software, but the base licence only costs $60.
Support and development.
Like I said the hardware is pretty standard, so is the software. I don't see why their support and development costs should be so much higher than any other PC manufacturer.
It's like iPhone
But that I agree :) .
does this support gigabit internet>?
It comes with two 2.5GbE ports.
Should be more than enough for any NBN Australia will ever see this century.
Driven to forego low wattage and go NUC-like PC with external storage unit running FreeNAS.
got the 4G version for $973 last month on an ebay birthday sale
HDMI 2.0 4k connection
x2 2.5Gbe connections
easy to upgrade RAM (i got 16GB RAM for ~$90) makes the total RAM of 20GB easy (you can go upto 32GB i guess)
10Gbe adapter can be used with a pce card
Nice, where'd you get the RAM from???
ebay - compter_alliance
Edit: checked my ebay history for you, i paid $103 including postage.
can you advice which memory model did you use?
Came here thinking it was a very expensive microwave
Ha ha… thats what i used to think until everyone in the household started using computers. Latest laptops come with this ridiculous harddrive specs like 256gb or 512gb, you will be driven to this NAS sooner or later i guess….
Same. I thought… "Oh, cool, Qnap is now doing air fryers…"
I’ve been looking at this or synology.
This has better features but damn if you wanna add ssd’s for caching then the extra card costs heaps :(
Now I don’t know what to do
Believe this comes with 8 camera licences for surveillance too.
I bought one of these due to 2.5 Gbe LAN and HDMI output. I was fully prepared to buy Synology until they stuck with 1 Gbe LAN this generation, which was a pathetic decision IMHO.
As a complete beginner to NAS the learning curve wasn't easy but eventually you get the hang of it and it does everything I want.
Generally if you want simplicity and ease of use, go Synology. If you want better hardware go QNAP.
I've followed basic security advice and have had zero issues. It seems a ton of people set and forget these things and access them via the internet and run into problems.
Great NAS. Bought one during the eBay anniversary sale.
If you're going to upgrade the memory, make sure you get the right type of memory otherwise it won't boot (I found out the hard way). I can confirm this Crucial RAM works: CT16G4SFD8266
I want to add to this: I am currently trying with - CT16G4SFS8266 and it fails to boot.
That's very odd! I have 2x sticks in my NAS… 32GB working fine.
i got the wrong model, yours is FD8266, the one i bought was FS8266. Mine was a single rank memory, turns out for the nas it should be a dual-rank memory (just learned this)
@mustbargain: All good, if it makes you feel any better I also learnt the hard way… the first 16GB I bought was single rank too… oops!
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Oooh, is it a QNAP TS-453D - 8G????
I guess this or the DS920?