Dropped from price from $327.77 to 295.59. Seems to be one of the cheaper B550 ITX Motherboards which supports type c front header. Enjoy!
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That fan is able to disabled in bios. You might want it to be on if your m.2 drive runs hot, otherwise you can just keep it off.
Good price, competitive against the Gigabyte B550i AORUS AX.
Although for the overclockers, be aware the Clear CMOS Jumper is obnoxiously behind the IO Shield and underneath the VRM heatsink shroud (so you got to take the shroud out first in order to access). (Source: page 40 of the manual, https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/E7C92v1.0.pdf )
I got this mobo and had a fail bios update which caused it not to post. However for some MSI mobo including this one there is a way to clear CMOS by simply holding the power button down for 5-10 seconds. It will do a short reset and then you turn it back on which will boot back to default bios settings. Hope this helps others who is looking to purchase this board.
or wire your reset button the the clear cmos which is honestly the most galaxy brain stratergy I have heard.
That's insane lol. Awesome tip!
That's very nice to know. Thanks!
Not needed for this motherboard. It has a flash BIOS button at the back. Just use that, it allows you to update BIOS even without a CPU and RAM.
However, if for some reason you tend to screw up BIOS settings and overclock like crazy a lot, then sure, wire the clear CMOS button up to a button could be handy. Top end motherboards have both flash BIOS and clear CMOS buttons at the back.
IMO the Gigabyte is a much better deal if Type-C header isn't needed.
Issues with this board:
The MSI B550i just arrived yesterday. Theres a small cutout on the IO shield, maybe 3mmx4mm which exposes the clear CMOS pins, so this isnt actually as bad as it seems.
Ooo, that's good to know. Thanks for reporting back =)
Seems to be one of the cheaper B550 ITX Motherboards which supports type c front header. Enjoy!
Didn't see this deal, so went with the ASUS ROG Strix B550i (for the USB-C Front Header) during the eBay Sale.
This deal popped up within the last 12 hours. I set a price drop email on camelcamelcamel, didnt expect much of it but woke up with a nice surprise!
Nice feature of camel. Why doesn’t Amazon or eBay have this feature?
If you're after moterboard with front panel USB-C header, ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax is a better option, IMO. 'Cos B550 Phantom's USB-C header supports transfer speed up to 10Gbps, while this B550I Gaming Edge's header only supports transfer speed up to 5Gbps.
Ah damn you're right! At this point I cant be bothered though, and its still $30 more expensive. I'm sure I'll just be able to deal with the 5Gbps
Still don't get the real advantage of ITX on AMD Ryzen platform. Most of us won't get an APU, and if it is just a CPU without graphics card, you need to add a graphics card, that eliminates the ITX form factor. Not to mention AMD CPU fans tend to be quite large so really slim ITX case would require a 3rd party fan. Good ones cost a lot. Then, you will have to deal with generally inferior VRM setup (as the board is quite small).
I would prefer to pair a Ryzen based setup with a decent GPU. If that's the case, might as well go micro ATX or standard ATX.
A bit narrow minded
Agreed, If you don't need any extra expansion ports it makes the footprint smaller. I've gone to ITX for most of my desktops/gamings.
Does it fit in this?
https://antec.com/product/case/isk110-vesa-u3.php
Or this:
https://antec.com/product/case/isk300-150.php
That's my main issue with Ryzen ITX setup at the moment. The so called ITX case I need to use ended up looking close to a slim micro ATX case, except a little bit smaller, rather than what ITX is meant to be.
@netsurfer: How can you expect to run ryzen cpu on 90watt PSU adaptor?
https://antec.com/product/case/isk110-vesa-u3.php
@Fvistr0: Isn't that part of the problem? I did mention: ISK300-150.
Anyway, that's essentially the point. As soon as you moved to standard PSU, are you really doing ITX? You are essentially doing a smaller micro ATX. If you whacked in a 2 slot GPU, clearly that's not real ITX anymore. The argument of, but you save space isn't that convincing either. You still end up having a slightly less bulkier box.
If people are able to justify a true / proper ITX on Ryzen, then fair enough. If you are already questioning low power being unreasonable on Ryzen ITX, then why go for it? It's just wasting money for the sake of having an "ITX" setup.
@netsurfer: I’m getting a thermal take F1 which has 140mm cpu clearance .
All my ITX case take full ATX PSU
@netsurfer: I've got an ITX setup that features an i5 and a GTX 1080 and able to play games just fine.
And the volume of the case is just 7.25L, PSU included (no external power brick trickery here).
Link to some photos
https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/what-have-you-don…
I struggle to see how to set it up on this:
https://antec.com/product/case/isk300-150.php
If people are getting a boxy type of ITX case, then I really question the "space" saving.
I'm thinking of getting the NZXT H1, great support for GPUs regarding size, and the vertical case allows it to only take up 187mmx187mm on the desk!
@okei pokie: With that case, you are only saving some depth space, maybe a bit of height space, compared to micro ATX. The fact that it allows 3 space equivalent of PCIe and full size PSU shows that.
That's the thing, is it really worthwhile to spend the extra for the ITX board (we are talking about X570 price range to get a B550 ITX), have less RAM slots, have less SATA ports, putting in a GPU with less space to dissipate heat.
I recently threw away an ITX case that's a bit smaller than H1. After years of trying ITX, I came to a conclusion that it is not worth it with limited choices of M/Bs, good ITX cases costing more, and this dilemma of small form factor graphics card (with inferior performance). For the tiny ITX cases I have, it's been quite painful to squeeze everything in.
@netsurfer: Others may have different circumstances though.
All your points are valid and they are true for your needs and situation, so good that you found out that ITX isn't for you and move onto more suitable form factors.
The real advantage is that you can use a smol case. It's that simple. Those cases can often fit decent GPUs.
ITX is almost always about the small form factor (no matter how unreasonable the potential extra costs for it) =D
You can pair it with power GPUs up to 2080/2080Ti levels for the "larger" but still small cases, e.g. NR200.
Or go bit smaller and still have GPUs up to 2060 super level (can go higher if the case has the clearance and airflow), e.g. SG13 (the new SG14 looks interesting, finally an update to the SG series)
It is a bit of a awkward position at the moment for APU builds as the 4000 series desktop APUs are still not publicly available in retail, but when they are out, you can very compact builds of <5L, e.g. InWin Chopin.
From my past experience, real ITX setup is quite painful. Cases like below aren't exactly fun to work with:
https://antec.com/product/case/isk300-150.php
InWin Chopin is in the same class of case. Sure, 2060 or above makes sense with Ryzen, but that means you are moving to box type of case, where it is just a slightly smaller micro ATX case.
Agree with you regarding:
It is a bit of a awkward position at the moment for APU builds as the 4000 series desktop APUs are still not publicly available in retail
The bit I am not sure is, if we really care about that slim form factor, maybe just get the NUC like setup. Asus does offer AMD Ryzen APU based build. As soon as we throw a decent GPU into the mix, it is hard to really justify ITX as good cooling generally isn't available on ITX.
I agree with you that it isn't mainstream, but personally I quite like the smaller footprint (for someone that has a lot of clutter, every small bit of space matters
😂😂😂).
I've built and am maintaining the Chopin build for my wife, cable management was quite an exercise (especially it was my first build ever), but it was worth it. She doesn't want anything bigger and it's more than sufficient for all her needs (I managed to get a i7-4770S into the Z97 mobo I've already got). With the noctua L9i (or L9a if running AMD), it's nice and nifty. NUCs and the likes are great and even smaller, however, it's similar if not more expensive for similar level of performance, and no upgradability when the newer gen hardware comes out. The whole system needs replacing rather than the motherboard, CPU (and sometimes RAM). The amount of IOs in NUCs/NUC-like systems is also a further downgrade. Granted one can use hubs, but, more cables lol. Although I definitely was dreaming a Ryzen NUC-like device when Zen+ was out, but just nobody was doing it (ASRock's DeskMini A300 came close, except availability was miles away). Personally I'm also aiming more at a 45-80W product too. So, hands-on and DIY it was.
I went with a SG05 and its size worked for me, and able to house discrete GPU of sufficient performance (I don't need 4K/high refresh gaming). So yea, each to their own.
@zrmx: InWin Chopin - I have no issue with that type of setup. But, like you said, the cable management is a pain (I have done a few ITX before).
Part of the problem now is it is still easier to do ITX with intel (not that I am happy with that). AMD setup is possible, but the parts and the extras… It's just too much hassle.
NUC - you might think the I/O is downgrade, but it's not the case (unless you insist on 2x m.2 and lots of SATAs, but let's face it, with InWin Chopin, that cannot be the case). NUC has 1 Thunderbolt 3, ALL USB 3.1 gen2 ports, HDMI with 4K/60, microSD or SD card reader. In terms of actual speedy ports, my NUC beats my intel and Ryzen 3xxx desktop setup. Sure, I have GPUs to counter 4K, but if you are looking at APU setup, would most boards actually offer 4K/60 or you are left with 4K/30?
people want to pump big components into small form factors is all it is at the end of the day.
I just forked out some dollars for a Coolermaster NR200P and a new motherboard for my ryzen 3700x. It will be paired with a 3080 at some point. <20L in volume and it will fit most triple slot AIB 3080's and a 240 radiator. Ticked all the boxes for me. I'm not after an itx case that can fit onto the back of my monitor, just after something small as I can get while having as powerful of parts as I want.
@GUYANDSON: That's the issue I am facing. I have that type of case before and I threw it away. It's just not a proper ITX for me. I also have a small micro ATX case. If we are looking at 3 PCIe slots worth of space, you whack in an ITX board with 1 slot while the case has to give you 3, you are basically doing a desktop build, rather than an ITX build.
The point is being an ITX board, it should allow every type of ITX build, NOT just the desktop type of build. Right now, it is a struggle to get the other parts to do a slim ITX build on AMD. As for getting ITX simply to do a smaller micro ATX build. I really question how much space you actually save.
I've given up on ITX after years of supporting it. You just end up spending more without any real benefit. For space saving without needing gaming, NUC type mini PC is better. If you want a desktop, just go micro ATX or ATX. Why pay the extra for an inferior board if you are going to still put in a dual slot GPU in that system?
Honestly, if you are going for RTX 3080, you really should be using an X570 board. B550 is a good marketing trick from AMD. Purposely blocked B450 / X470 from supporting PCIe gen 4 on the x16 slot and the CPU linked m.2, forcing people to cave into B550. Motherboard makers managed to do it, but AMD used their AGESA BIOS kill switch to stop that. Great work, AMD… NOT.
@netsurfer: Go take a look at the current quality micro-atx cases. Now go look at more popular m-itx cases like the Coolermaster NR200 or the Ncase m1. The quality micro-atx cases are still in the ball park of traditional mid towers with the popular itx being a touch bigger than a shoebox. You can debate the pros and cons of either all you want but at the end of the day some people just want the smaller form factor while being able to game. The enthusiast market has very much moved past 'true' sff and into more of these sorts of builds.
@GUYANDSON: Reviews are out and it is clear that it is not a good idea to put RTX 3080 on an ITX case as it impacts the air flow too much, causing the fan to spin a lot.
One of the reviewers essentially told you that he simply had to use a different build to test and the reasons. And, all reviewers agree that the FE card has really good design (so AIB cards have a tough baseline to beat). That said, the ITX setup would cause the air flow to suffer.
I had CoolerMaster ITX and MicroATX cases. Honestly, I get why you think it is small enough, but no matter how you try to spin this, NR200P has 3 PCI-e slots and 2 slot space on top of CPU. That's a case that makes ITX install more bearable, rather than space saving. Ryzen 3700X also probably has a bit to do with choosing that case (nice stock cooler, but bulky). We know where the RTX 3080 is going to be installed.
Based on the reviews, it is clear that if you insist on going ITX with RTX 3080, you will have inferior air flow. You are also looking at SFX, SFX-L with preferably 750W (600W is no go, 650W not tested, but it's going to be a gamble). The clearance is going to be interesting too. Hopefully, there is enough space as RTX 3080 is a lengthier card. AIB cards, which way do you think the fans are going to be positioned? The most expensive component in your system is going to have the least desirable airflow?
I like Ryzen CPU coolers, BUT they are an issue with ITX builds. Sure, the intel coolers are junk in comparison, but if I just want to setup an ITX box that's actually shoe box size, it is possible. For family members not gaming, that's viable. I do look forward to more Ryzen APU options. 4K Gaming, ITX just simply doesn't make sense. I don't like loud fans and coil whine annoys me.
I had CoolerMaster ITX and MicroATX cases. Honestly, I get why you think it is small enough, but no matter how you try to spin this, NR200P has 3 PCI-e slots and 2 slot space on top of CPU. That's a case that makes ITX install more bearable, rather than space saving.
I'm still waiting to see a micro-atx case that I can currently buy that has a similar footprint, features and ease of install. And I'll say good luck finding one, because I just went through that entire process myself. Space is a consideration for some people, whether you care about it or not.
Based on the reviews, it is clear that if you insist on going ITX with RTX 3080, you will have inferior air flow. You are also looking at SFX, SFX-L with preferably 750W (600W is no go, 650W not tested, but it's going to be a gamble). The clearance is going to be interesting too. Hopefully, there is enough space as RTX 3080 is a lengthier card. AIB cards, which way do you think the fans are going to be positioned? The most expensive component in your system is going to have the least desirable airflow?
I like Ryzen CPU coolers, BUT they are an issue with ITX builds. Sure, the intel coolers are junk in comparison, but if I just want to setup an ITX box that's actually shoe box size, it is possible. For family members not gaming, that's viable. I do look forward to more Ryzen APU options. 4K Gaming, ITX just simply doesn't make sense. I don't like loud fans and coil whine annoys me.
Wow, you know how I'm going to set my system up. I picked the NR200p specifically because I know a 3080 will fit with sufficient airflow. I also picked it because I have multiple options in configuring things. It's advertised with a tempered glass panel but also comes with the standard panel.
This is very similar to what I will be doing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AATjREpgKC0
Great price. I paid $360 a couple of months back when it launched.
Bought "GIGABYTE B550I AORUS PRO AX" couple of days ago for $280.30 from Amazon UK and its been dispatched today.
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B089TP3GQF/ref=ppx_yo_d…
Waiting for Ryzen 9 3900x to drop down further (currently on $650)
I also bought this, and it shipped very quickly (cancelled the Asrock board after it didn't ship within a week and I read the reviews were unfavourable).
I'm contemplating just waiting the month for Ryzen 4 series, However if the Ryzen 9 DID come down below $500, well now…
I just bought one, mainly due to the VRM and the lack of fans. Then again, I never really took the time to compare it against MSI's offering …
The $650 for the Ryzen 9 from Amazon is most likely a fake offer (not sold by Amazon).
But let's hope they will drop soon with the new 4000 series in October.
I ordered a MSI MAG Tomahawk X570 for $360 on ebay (with PIP10) yesterday. Looks like a solid foundation for the 9 series.
im considering it…
But what are you doing about warranty?
GB-AU will need you to send it back to Amazon UK to sort out if it needs RMA/etc ?
Also got this last week when it was $289. I never use type C front header so I dont mind not having it. Compare to all the others Asus, MSI and Asrocks. Gigabyte seems to be the most well balanced and the price isn’t that bad either. Was going for the Asus but the vrm is the poorest out of the bunch (not that we’re gonna need more but it is expensive af).
It’s got shipped out last week from UK by DHL, not sure how long it usually takes to arrive Australia.
@mitchins Hope that prices of ryzen 3 will start dropping soon, who knows, we might get an Amazon's stock clearance sale before ryzen 4000 release date (8th Oct)
Very nice. Had my eye on this for a while before deciding to go with the Gigabyte.
I'm a simple man. I see a new ITX board for under $300 i upvote lol ITX is the way of the pc gaming future…
Borat voice - 'HIGH FIVE'
More A520 models when :(
That's a good price, best I could see was $175 at PLE or $185 at PCCG
The link above is for a Micro-ATX board, the ITX boards are around the price you found.
Oof, that's not a lot of USB ports. Very nice to see 2.5GbE though.
6 USB ports seems pretty good for an ITX
My current B450 ITX board has 4x USB3.0 and 2x USB 10Gbps, this one has 2x USB3.0 and 2x USB 10Gbps, one of which is Type-C, and 2x USB2.0 ports. I guess it's not too bad assuming you can use the BIOS flashback port as a regular USB2.0 port.
Yeah i assumed you could use the bios flashback port as a normal usb. Would be somewhat redundant most of the time for my case if not.
Are we going back to fan-cooled northbridges? :(