Recommendations on How to Prevent Dangerous Drivers from Causing Harm to The Public

LMozgodrom on 05/09/2020 - 21:04
Last edited 07/09/2020 - 12:02 by 1 other user

Would you share any tips on how to protect the public from a dangerous driver?
I have already submitted a police report and sent the dash cam video to dashcamownersaus.

Any additional recommendations on how to correct this driver's behavior?

Short story:
Subaru Liberty 2008 driver attempted to push me from the road by dangerously weaving into my lane, intentionally blocked me from making the lane change for exit, was using horn and flipping the middle finger to intimidate (apart from tailgating).
I think he didn't like the distance I was maintaining from the car in front of me as he was also tailgating me.

Short dash cam video available here:

Update 1: Last chance to have your question answered, the topic will be abandoned in 5 hours. Make sure you use a question mark "?" in your comment if you want me to answer.

Update 2: Thanks everyone for participating in the discussion, we now have around 1,500 views on Youtube and 200 comments in the topic all in less than 36 hours. I did my best to respond to every comment containing a question mark "?". This topic is now officially abandoned and I will not monitor it nor respond to the new comments. The video has also been removed.

Based on the comments, the optimal measure is just to report the dangerous driver to the Police and it is easy to do that online. That may save innocent lives in the future. It is also a good advice to get a rear view dash cam so you can provide better evidence to the Police and report dangerous drivers who tailgate.

The public roads is not a place for aggression and intimidation. Sooner or later your dangerous driving will be captured on video and reported to the Police with the maximum penalty in QLD of 200 penalty units ($26 110) fine or three years imprisonment. If you can't control your anger speak to your GP about that.

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  • Hybroid on 05/09/2020 - 21:06
    +17

    If you've already submitted a police report, what are you expecting exactly? Bikie vigilantes?

    • HeWhoKnows on 06/09/2020 - 11:10
      +2

      OP is your classic (cant mind thier own business) trouble maker

      Best ignore such people and hopefully they will just go away

      • DoctorCalculon on 06/09/2020 - 19:25
        -2

        trouble maker

        An insidious troll!

    • pegaxs on 07/09/2020 - 15:25
      +7

      Hijacking top comment for visibility…

      Video was removed by OP, but as always, the internet never forgets.

      Archived copy can now be found (in two parts) over here…

      • whooah1979 on 07/09/2020 - 19:14

        It's not the same as the original page where we could see all the like clicks.

  • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2020 - 21:12
    +111

    There's nothing to see after the first 7 seconds.

    Just looks like someone sped up to overtake from left because OP was hogging the right most lane.

    I think he didn't like the distance I was maintaining from the car in front of me as he was also tailgating me.

    OP, you're also a bad driver. Get off the right most lane if you're not overtaking. Please correct your own behaviour whilst you're at it.

      • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2020 - 21:20
        +20

        he was also tailgating me.

        There was no one in your front left. He was behind you, he moved to your left and overtook.

        Your story is inconsistent.

          • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2020 - 22:24
            +46

            @Mozgodrom:

            left lane occupied until the distance between me and the car in the left lane is at least 2 seconds (which is 25m….

            Come on.

            You weren't aware of your surroundings and/or the road rule to keep left. You hogged the right lane for long enough to piss someone off.

            I'm not condoning road rage but you're not a safe driver and you're presenting a heavily cherry picked bit of footage.

            Nothing leading up to the road rage, no rear cam and now you're proposing that there was a car on your left that was far enough for someone behind you to overtake yet close enough that you couldn't have done so safely? On top of that, this person that must have been upset because he sped up so quickly that he was on your tail for only a few short moments before becoming impatient and decided to overtake from your left. This impatient person who was speeding up to your rear and then overtakes just to slow down and maintain speed beside you?

            Come on.

              • randomusername2017 on 06/09/2020 - 08:40
                +32

                @Mozgodrom:

                intentionally blocked me from making the lane change for exit

                Were you planning to exit left from the right lane?

                If you were in the left hand lane this incident would never have happened.

            • RockyRaccoon on 06/09/2020 - 08:48
              +4

              @[Deactivated]: Ease up, it was QLD they always drive in the right lane, its their right as Queenslanders. Its not like its Australia.

              :-J or 🙃

          • endotherm on 07/09/2020 - 18:49
            +1

            @Mozgodrom: I watched the video. Literally everyone to the left of you was going faster than you were. You had no right to be in the right lane. It is not up to you to police other drivers' behaviour, if you want to play policeman, go to the Police Academy. Are you going to be checking drivers licences next? Tyre pressures? What other rules do you feel the need to enforce?

            I seriously think you are placing way too much faith in the accuracy of your speedometer. Newer cars are known for having speedos reading up to 10% above real speed. When your speedo is indicating 100, you might only be doing 90. Holding up other cars behind you because you are using an inaccurate speedometer is a dick move. No wonder everyone seems to want to give you a wide berth and get away from you as fast as possible.

            And if you notice tailgaters everywhere you go, maybe it is because you are driving too slow and they are doing the permitted speed. It is nature's way of telling you to get out of the way and allow people to pass!

      • spackbace on 05/09/2020 - 21:29
        +2

        I think he didn't like the distance I was maintaining from the car in front of me as he was also tailgating me.

        What car? Footage shows a Subaru on your left, with no one else around.

        Any reason you haven't shared footage earlier than this?

        • Mozgodrom on 05/09/2020 - 21:41
          -8

          This is the video I submitted to the police. They have a limit of 50mb so I had to cut everything else.

          • spackbace on 05/09/2020 - 22:41
            +3

            @Mozgodrom: Right, and you didn't backup all copies of the video of the entire incident that day…?

            Surrree

            • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 06:26
              -4

              @spackbace: I have a 5min video from that day backupped but it is irrelevant to the topic.

              • randomusername2017 on 06/09/2020 - 08:43
                +7

                @Mozgodrom:

                I have a 5min video from that day backupped but it does boy support my position in this topic.

                *fixed

          • DazMon on 06/09/2020 - 11:12

            @Mozgodrom: Submit to police? Isn't it 100MB?

      • AustriaBargain on 06/09/2020 - 17:30
        +2

        If you're not passing then back off and get behind the subaru.

    • HeWhoKnows on 06/09/2020 - 11:12
      +1

      I caught OP on my dashcam doing the wrong thing

      Should I submit it to the police and have OP fined?

      • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 17:41
        +7

        It's the law.

        It's not up to you to decide what speed everyone should be doing, the law has no mention about what speed to do on the right lane, but it does mention when you can be in the right lane.

        So unless you fulfill those legal reasons, stay off the right lane.

        • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 17:46
          -4

          Oh wow thanks, I didn't know this. There's always someone to overtake so I guess it's actually legal to speed in the right lane?

          • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 17:47
            +2

            @[Deactivated]: Speeding is a different issue.

            Besides, other people speeding isn't your concern. Let the police/HWP deal with them.

            Otherwise police/HWP may deal with you for holding up the right lane.

            • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:00
              -2

              @CMH: Well as I said (I'm genuinely just trying to understand the rules here), you want to overtake because they're going below the speed limit so you go into the right lane, if someone is in the right lane going the speed limit, then you'll overtake them, otherwise you're going the maximum speed limit anyways. How do I hold up the right lane if I'm going the speed limit? I get that you might need to speed for a bit to overtake sometimes but then I guess I can speed in the right lane and just say I'm overtaking everyone?

              Edit: as I said, I stick to the left cause that's how I was taught to drive, I just never understood the right lane thing

              Besides, other people speeding isn't your concern

              I find this such a typical Australian mentality. It's never my concern until I or a loved one gets involved.

              Police aren't always there. Its always much better to address something from a societal standpoint than an authorative standpoint.

              • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 18:03
                +1

                @[Deactivated]:

                I find this such a typical Australian mentality. It's never my concern until I or a loved one gets involved.

                It's not a "mentality". It literally isn't your job, and other people might have legal and valid reasons to drive over the speed limit.

                you want to overtake because they're going below the speed limit so you go into the right lane, if someone is in the right lane going the speed limit, then you'll overtake them, otherwise you're going the maximum speed limit anyways.

                If someone's going below the speed limit, then you're overtaking. All is good.

                If for any reason you're on the right lane, and not overtaking, then either the whole road is congested, or you get back to your left. That's the rules.

                Again, as I said earlier there's no provision saying you are allowed to stay on the right because you're doing the speed limit.

                I guess I can speed in the right lane and just say I'm overtaking everyone?

                Yes, you can speed all you want and not be caught for staying in the right lane. Police may stop you for other reasons though.

                • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:13
                  -2

                  @CMH:

                  It's not a "mentality". It literally isn't your job, and other people might have legal and valid reasons to drive over the speed limit

                  Like how we should leave the environment and policy completely to the government, it's not my job. Imo it's both a mentality and a fact because there are other aspects of society where you can dob where it literally doesn't affect your safety or daily routine. I guess using your argument again, it's not our job to decide what falls under that category

                  If someone's going below the speed limit, then you're overtaking. All is good.

                  So it is only when someone is going below the speed limit? Then I guess it comes back to my original argument, if someone in the right lane is going the speed limit then you're not holding them up. Otherwise if it's no speed limit but you can be in the right lane if you're over taking, well I'm trying to overtake everyone

                  • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 18:18
                    +1

                    @[Deactivated]:

                    Then I guess it comes back to my original argument, if someone in the right lane is going the speed limit then you're not holding them up.

                    You happily missed the point where someone may legally be speeding, just to have you block their way.

                    Imo it's both a mentality and a fact because there are other aspects of society where you can dob where it literally doesn't affect your safety or daily routine.

                    You are absolutely right, same argument, not your job. Unless you see something inherently dangerous, someone doing a few kmph over isn't your concern. Someone driving (presumably) drunk and weaving all over their lane, go for it.

          • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:10
            +2

            @[Deactivated]: Two different issues. You don't need to join the two.

            1. Keep off the right lane unless overtaking.

            2. Don't speed.

            So, if you're on the right lane, get off.

            If you're speeding. Don't.

            If someone is speeding and you're blocking them, you're both breaking rules.

            Besides as CMH said, some people actually have a valid reason to speed. Ie. They may be rushing to an emergency. Imagine if someone was rushing to a hospital and your self righteous act of blocking caused a permanent disability, do you really want to argue about, "I was thinking about speed limits, you should have waited for an ambulance, etc…".

            • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:16

              @[Deactivated]: It's just your second point, someone said before the right lane has no speed limit, that was new to me. Honestly, I'm just trying to understand it.

              Well if we're talking about legality then I'm not sure about being allowed to speed in case of an emergency but I agree that there definitely should be some exceptions. However we all know it's a really small percentage and if anything, they're ruining it for those who have genuine emergencies.

              • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:19
                +2

                @[Deactivated]: Besides, your point about "mentality" - apart from sounding condescending, yours is actually quite corrupt.

                You believe someone else breaking a rule (speeding) will get someone hurt yet when you break a rule (hogging the right lane), you're somewhat preventing someone else from breaking the rule hence potentially saving someone.

                You do realise that's some insane mental acrobatics. I hope you see it for what it is now they it is laid bare.

                • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:36

                  @[Deactivated]: No you're right, the right lane should be clear if that's the law. The problem is that it consistently isn't and probably 99% of the time it's people using it as a lane to speed in which someone replied 'it's not my problem'. My response to that wasn't that we should hog the right lane, I was just responding to that mentality in general, for example, drink driving. There's really no excuse for that, even in an emergency but the same idea that 'its not my problem' can be applied.

                  • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 18:42

                    @[Deactivated]: Now, the problem with other people speeding: Are you going to ensure they aren't speeding by blocking their way all the way to their destination?

                    To me it sounds like staying in the right lane to stop people from speeding is just an excuse to stay in the right lane. Stops people from speeding for a whole 2 seconds before the overtake from the left and go on their merry way….

                  • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 19:10
                    +1

                    @[Deactivated]:

                    No you're right, the right lane should be clear if that's the law. The problem is that it consistently isn't and probably 99% of the time it's people using it as a lane to speed…

                    It's not "if" it is the law. It is the law. Trying further justification of how it isn't that bad to stay in the right lane by implication of speeders being on the right lane is what's wrong with your comment.

                    Speeding is a separate issue. It is wrong in any lane and has nothing to do with anyone hogging the right lane.

                    • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 19:14

                      @[Deactivated]: I know, and yes it is the law, thanks for the clarification.

              • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 18:20

                @[Deactivated]: But how can you ascertain that the person speeding has a legal reason to do so? So because most people don't have a legal reason then it becomes your job to stop everyone from speeding? Imagine the one time someone has a legal reason to do so and you stopped them and someone died…

                • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:29

                  @CMH: That's what I'm trying to determine, when does someone have a legal reason to? Is it simply overtaking? What if I was just in the right lane going 40kph over the speed limit, I probably won't be stopping any cars and I'm overtaking plenty of cars. I constantly see cars in that lane going over the speed limit never overtaking anyone.

                  It's not my job to ascertain so but the police could. I know OP already sent it in but I know there's people against it.

                  • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 18:31

                    @[Deactivated]:

                    when does someone have a legal reason to?

                    Copied from another poster:

                    overtaking
                    turning right
                    legally making a U-turn
                    there is a left lane must turn left sign or left lane traffic arrow
                    avoiding an obstruction
                    marked lanes are congested
                    the right lane is a special purpose lane allowing the lane use
                    the left lane has a slow vehicle making a left turn

                    I suggest you read up on the road rules again if you don't know this basic rule.

                    • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:43
                      +1

                      @CMH: Doesn't matter whether I know it to a T or not, unlike a lot of people I follow it. Many, many don't, my money would be that the Subaru in the video isn't going to an emergency or planning on overtaking until he plans to turn.

                      And t-show above said don't speed, despite being in the right lane or not, there's also no law that says I can in an emergency (although if one is in a genuine emergency, they should be excused), yet it seems if I can a) go above the speed limit if I'm overtaking then as long as there's cars in the left lane, I can consistently overtake.

                      Trust me, I follow the rules, I drive to the limit and I'm not a nuisance to other drivers. It's drivers like in the video that ruin it for others. I was just trying to understand whether it's legal or not.

                      • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 18:46
                        +2

                        @[Deactivated]: How do you follow the rules if you don't know them?

                        • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 18:55
                          +1

                          @CMH: Do you know every law? It's because how I was taught to drive and just basic respect, I don't hold up others if they want to overtake, if anything, even on single roads I pull over when I can and let people overtake. Like I said, I knew it, I just didn't know the actual law behind it. I don't think every driver knows every law and you don't exactly need it to be able to drive.

                          I concede that the right lane should be clear, I said that from the beginning that it was great to learn something new. I was just trying to discern, from the information, whether it's actually legal to speed in the right lane. Also when I responded to you saying it's not my problem, it wasn't specifically to this. It was a general comment. If someone is driving dangerously they should be reported just as if you saw someone robbing someone else's home, you'd call the cops. Maybe they're just trying to feed their family? The thing is, if it's a real emergency then I'm happy to risk the fine I get for speeding. Id also be happy to get caught if it means everyone else who does it without a legit reason is.

                          • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 19:03

                            @[Deactivated]:

                            I was just trying to discern, from the information, whether it's actually legal to speed in the right lane.

                            No, it's not legal to speed just because you're in the right lane.

                            I responded to you saying it's not my problem, it wasn't specifically to this. It was a general comment. If someone is driving dangerously they should be reported just as if you saw someone robbing someone else's home, you'd call the cops.

                            Dangerous driving is different to speeding. Besides, if someone truly was dangerous driving you wouldn't be driving close to them, or trying to be in their way.

                            if it's a real emergency then I'm happy to risk the fine I get for speeding

                            If it were a true emergency you would easily be able to contest it.

                            Id also be happy to get caught if it means everyone else who does it without a legit reason is.

                            They do get caught every once in awhile. Unfortunately Australia cares more about people speeding than people hogging the right lane…

                            • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2020 - 19:27

                              @CMH:

                              No, it's not legal to speed just because you're in the right lane.

                              Thanks, this is what I was after.

                              Dangerous driving is different to speeding. Besides, if someone truly was dangerous driving you wouldn't be driving close to them, or trying to be in their way.

                              Sometimes you just can't avoid it, especially when they're drunk, going twice the speed limit and just t-bone you

                              If it were a true emergency you would easily be able to contest it.

                              if I could that would just be a bonus, but again, emergency, a fine and some demerit points on an otherwise clean record is the least of my worries

                              They do get caught every once in awhile. Unfortunately Australia cares more about people speeding than people hogging the right lane…

                              yeah I mean if you're breaking the law, you're breaking the law, I agree with you there. But I find that those who speed are typically the ones who hog the right lane, so if anything they should be charged twice. If there are cars going the speed limit in other lanes, then if you want to speed you have to be in the right lane but they might only be comfortable going 10km over the speed limit, then someone who's going 20, 30, 40km over approaches and now they're merging because the car in front of them, even though speeding, is going too slow for them. Dash cams have been pretty good in catching people breaking the law, either speeding or hogging, I wonder how much of them are enacted though when they're sent in. But I guess it's not my business for wanting the roads I, my dad and my sister drive on to be safer. The issue is, even if OP was in the left lane, he'd still get a similar response because probably most people haven't had a loved one killed by a reckless driver who mostly goes unpunished even when there's video evidence.

                              • TheBird on 06/09/2020 - 21:08
                                -1

                                @[Deactivated]:

                                They do get caught every once in awhile. Unfortunately Australia cares more about people speeding than people hogging the right lane…

                                It's cared about, as it leads to many other significent issues on the road, but since it's contextual, it's harder to police. Much like driving below the speed limit. It's as dangerous as speeding, but it's also contextual. Catching speeding is simpler to determine… low hanging fruit.

                                I just want to point out, at least here in Queensland, the rule isn't keeping the right lane free, it's specifically keep left unless overtaking (in a 90+ zone). If you're on a 2 lane road, then keep to the left lane unless overtaking. Lets say you're on a three or four lane road, you can be guilty of failing to keep left if you're in the second or third lane if you're not overtaking.

                                Another thing to add to the importance of keeping left unless overtaking. There can be unmarked emergency vehicles needing to perform duties. While usually they will have either a siren and/or lights, there are circumstances where they shouldn't. I urge you, don't block cars because you feel you know better.

                                As for the OP, while I only glanced at the video, it's a little hard to tell since you cannot see to the left or behind, by the OP own admission, while not conclusive, it's not a stretch to say the OP failed to keep left AND obstructed traffic. There's no evidence the car to the left made and infractions. It would be karma if the OP received a couple fines.

        • bs0 on 07/09/2020 - 20:44

          But to clarify, in NSW it's for >80km/hr roads, or those marked with a 'Left Left Unless Overtaking' sign right?

      • CocaKoala on 07/09/2020 - 16:01
        +1

        I always try to keep the right lane clear but I don't see the big deal

        The legislation doesn't give two hoots about what you think is or is not a big deal. Next time you're hogging the right lane, I wish an 18 wheeler would run you off the road. Our roads could do with one less selfish, inconsiderate nutjob.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/09/2020 - 16:42

          If you read the posts, you'll know I said I hardly go in the right lane and if I do, it's to overtake. I said that I was wrong and that the right lane should be clear at all times. I agree with what you say though, inconsiderate drivers should be run off the roads by 18 wheelers whether it's hogging the right lane, speeders, people on their phones, drink drivers etc. The punishment are too relaxed. When I drive, I try to of little nuisance to people as much as possible, keep at speed limit, only change lanes when I have to or when others don't have to stop, keep left etc.

          As I said before, I find most people that hog the right lane are also those that also speed. I hardly see anyone in the right lane going just the speed limit, so if anything, this just makes them twice as selfish.

          That comment was just because people in the right lane just never bothered me, especially if they're going the speed limit since even if I wanted to go in the right lane they wouldn't be blocking me unless I was speeding. I stick left because that's how I was taught, now that I know it's actually law, then I said it should be kept clear.

  • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2020 - 21:20
    +6

    Just move on friend 👍👍

  • spackbace on 05/09/2020 - 21:27
    +29

    I'd love the 2mins of footage that precede this.

    People don't just attempt to side swipe for no reason…

    • HeWhoKnows on 06/09/2020 - 11:14
      -2

      CORRECT!

      Ive got the footage on my dashcam and OP is clearly in ther WRONG

      Should I submit a police report and have OP booked?

      • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 11:41
        +1

        Up to you.

        • Kangal on 06/09/2020 - 23:12

          OP, not sure if that's a video of me.
          Same car, same model, same year, same colour, same wheels, same area.
          If you search, you will find posts confirming the above here on OzB.

          Things are getting "twilight zone" up in here.

          • Mozgodrom on 07/09/2020 - 11:45

            @Kangal: Have you checked the rego?

            • Kangal on 07/09/2020 - 13:09

              @Mozgodrom: I'll check my dashcam footage, and find out. What date was it on?

      • LFO on 06/09/2020 - 13:43
        +2

        Ive got the footage on my dashcam and

        YouTube please!! Nothing to watch on TV

        Pleeeeease!!!!

      • unicorse on 06/09/2020 - 14:37

        Post it on youtube and post the link here. It's only fair.

        • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 17:55
          +1

          Agree. If only this video has ever existed.

  • Melb69 on 05/09/2020 - 21:27
    +2

    What happened prior to the tailgating? We need the Subbies dash cam. Did you cut him off or move into the right lane when he was trying to get into the fast lane to pass you because you were going slower than the speed limit and moved over at same time. Bit hard to gather enough info at all from video of whole situation. Only your side of the story.

    If you have passed it onto the police that's all you can do.

    Always just try and stay in left lane and use right for passing even on multi lanes. It just helps flow. If ppl want to speed let them do it in right lane. ImO

    • Mozgodrom on 05/09/2020 - 21:49

      Agree having their dash cam would be useful.
      +1 to keep left unless overtaking (or congested) in >80kmh zone.

  • WreckTangle on 05/09/2020 - 21:39
    +4

    Not much to see

  • Banana on 05/09/2020 - 21:41
    +3

    Any additional recommendations on how to correct this driver's behavior?

    • Sign up to become a HWP
    • Get elected to become a Mayor, ~intimidate said person~ call for a reform with your new found power
    • Run as the prime minister of Australia, ban driving

    ETC.

      • kale chips suck on 06/09/2020 - 12:01
        +5

        I live in Melbourne.

        I disagree.

        • Banana on 06/09/2020 - 21:29

          kale chips are delicious :(

      • Banana on 06/09/2020 - 21:29
        +2

        I live in Melbourne too and tired of the restrictions. But you realised it isn't just "Dictator Dan" making decisions right, there are many many teams with various industry experience, years of education behind every decision. The decisions might be right, might be wrong, they might piss some people off, but I trust that they have good intentions.

        I got rid of my social media accounts so I don't need to respond to comments like yours. It's been a tough day, I will let this one slip.

  • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2020 - 21:44
    +11

    Would you share any tips on how to protect the public from a dangerous driver?

    By "the public", do you mean you?

      • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2020 - 21:57
        +1

        You can confidentially report dangerous driving online at crimestoppers[vic].com.au. You can also call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 and speak to an operator.
        If the driver is found guilty, they get fined and some even get put through a court-ordered safe driving program.

      • pegaxs on 05/09/2020 - 22:34
        +16

        I want to protect other less experienced and more vulnerable drivers from this person.

        You're the dangerous driver here. Maybe that guy was trying to protect more vulnerable drivers from you…

        ARR 130: Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road

        • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 06:23
          -8

          You need to review your definition of dangerous driving.

          • pegaxs on 06/09/2020 - 12:42
            +9

            @Mozgodrom: You need to review your definition of "I am safe"…

      • Ughhh on 06/09/2020 - 08:52
        +9

        You were not safe. The fact you think you were safe is probably just as dangerous.

        I wouldn't be surprised if the cops used your video as evidence of breaking the keep left unless overtaking rule.

        If you can't overtake because the left lane was occupied for that long, that means you weren't overtaking.

        • CocaKoala on 07/09/2020 - 20:28

          I absolutely despise idiots who hog the right lane because they're "overtaking" a car that's doing 92 KPH by trying to pass them at 93 KPH. The heat death of the (profanity) universe will happen before Mr McJimmers TakesAllWeek finishes the bloody passing, all the while blocking the 300 odd cars behind them.

      • HeWhoKnows on 06/09/2020 - 11:19
        +6

        Mate YOU are the problem

        Stay OFF the roads!

  • randomusername2017 on 05/09/2020 - 21:52
    +3

    Please leave your dashcam at home if you come to drive in Sydney…

    Your Thoughts?

    • Mozgodrom on 05/09/2020 - 22:00
      -1

      Yeah I think I have seen a video of police stopping a car traveling in the right lane. There is also a video of a right lane hogger who brake checks an undercover police car.
      I lived in Sydney for a year, didn’t have any issues there.

  • Peter Enis on 05/09/2020 - 22:08
    +16

    Typical in Brisbane. People driving under the speed limit in the right lane. This guy probs got annoyed because it happens so often. Keep left next time.

  • pegaxs on 05/09/2020 - 22:14
    +20

    And I am sure that you are 100% innocent and contributed in absolutely no way to this persons behaviour… Oh, a video, good, let's watch that…

    All I got in the video was a guy taking up about 1/4 of your lane (maybe distracted driver??) and you driving in the right most lane on a freeway. If you are asking "Am I The Arsehole", then yes. You need to get your own shit in order before you go looking for pitchforks and torches.

    You got your Jimmies rustled and now you want to get some revenge. Well, I hope Karma bites you on the arse and the Police view the footage and send you the fine for not keeping left unless overtaking.

    • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 06:21
      -3

      The left lane was occupied.

      • pegaxs on 06/09/2020 - 09:11
        +10

        Then share the complete video and not a small portion of it. I have my money on the fact that you were in the right most lane for quite a while.

        People don’t just road rage for no reason and I am positive that you are the instigator or main contributor to this situation. The fact that you have posted a butt hurt appeal for retribution on another road user tells me that you have already tried to teach this road user a lesson of some sort that has only inflamed the situation. What started it? Did they flash their lights at you or beep their horn and you thought “how dare they!”?

        So, until you post the video of the whole incident and that video exonerates you from any wrong doing or contribution, this whole post just sounds like a whiny school yard tiff that you got the short end of the stick on and now you’re having a tantrum.

        Stay out of that lane, unless you are overtaking, and other road users won’t have a reason to annoy you.

        • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 19:20
          -2

          I believe it is more important to discuss the de facto dangerous behavior of the Subaru driver rather than hypothesize about potential scenarios that have never happened.

          • pegaxs on 06/09/2020 - 19:52
            +5

            @Mozgodrom: We don't know what "potential scenarios" never happened, as we only have your biased opinion of the events. The rest of the video would go somewhat to establishing if you had any input into the situation, and I can guess by your lack of uploading this full video and deflecting from sharing it, that you had significant input into this other road users behaviour. I want more than just your edited and watered down version of the incident, and using the 50mb limitation on video size is a crock, because YouTube has no such limit.

            The only thing that your short video shows is a car that wanders slightly into your lane for a moment, and nothing more. Anything outside of that is just hypothetical. What isn't hypothetical is your lack of road rule awareness and your lack of wanting to release more footage, because you know it will only cement peoples already established opinion of the event, and that is, you were the instigator, you lost out, and now you are throwing a tantrum about it.

            The issue here is that you feel wronged and are seeking vengeance and justification in your search for some type of misguided frontier justice. In the process of trying to gain some confirmation bias, you have inadvertently kicked an "own goal" by trying to colour up an incident to your favour. Unfortunately, this forum is inhabited by people that smell bullshit a mile away. (Christ, even HelloPam2019 called you out on it…)

            To me, it seems like this… You did something wrong (drove slow in the right most lane/cut them off). This driver beeped and/or flashed you to move over. You didn't (i HaVe RiGhTz!!1!). They tailgated you. You brake checked them and slowed right down. They went to overtake you on the left side, and you sped up. They got sick of your shit and flipped you off… I am betting that the video footage leading up to what you did post would show this version or something close to it.

            You are not as innocent as you are making out you are. An innocent person would share the complete video and not carry on like you have. You are trying too hard to convince people of your innocence and that usually means you are covering up for something, and that is usually covering for being the instigator or a willing contributor to the altercation.

            The point is, even if the other driver did behave like you said they did, they don't do it randomly and are usually provoked into it. So, again, I will ask, what did you do that exacerbated the situation with the other driver? And what is in the preceding 5 minutes that you don't want us to see?

            • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 20:52

              @pegaxs: Nothing notable, just boring normal driving.

              • pegaxs on 06/09/2020 - 23:01
                +2

                @Mozgodrom: Then if there is nothing to report, post the video…

              • CMH on 06/09/2020 - 23:02
                +2

                @Mozgodrom: Then upload it so we can see how you drive normally :D

    • HeWhoKnows on 06/09/2020 - 11:20

      100%

  • [Deactivated] on 05/09/2020 - 22:20
    +1

    Water off a ducks back mate.

    Shit happens, nothing came of it, someone else having a bad day. Move on and continue to be a nice person in case someone else is having a bad day too.

  • greencomet on 05/09/2020 - 23:06
    +8

    You're in the wrong lane, get out of the way. It takes 2 seconds and you can both be on your merry way. He's happy because you're not slowing him down anymore and you're happy because people won't be aggressively driving behind you.

    • Mozgodrom on 06/09/2020 - 06:20
      -4

      Left lane is occupied.

      • HeWhoKnows on 06/09/2020 - 11:22
        +6

        Poor excuse mate.
        You have been smashed here from all sides here

        Just like your poor attitude to the other driver, you just can accept you are wrong here.

        EVERYONE is telling you to PULL YOUR HEAD IN

        Stop arguing and applogise to the OB community and you will be forgiven

      • Quantumcat on 06/09/2020 - 13:33
        +2

        Then slow down until the guy on the left is gone and go behind him

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