Hi all,
Planning to purchase some parts like processor, motherboard etc and collecting them from the store. However, the store is 25km away?
Is that ok? If I got stopped, I can argue that without the parts, I can't work from home.
Are PC Parts Considered Essential (VIC Stage 4 Lockdown) ?
axn on 12/08/2020 - 13:13
Last edited 17/08/2020 - 14:52 by 2 other users
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Their defence sounds reasonable enough to be used in court.
Nope
Dan clearly stated:
"You might not get what you want, but you'll get what you need".
What he needed was a McChicken Burger from his local Maccas…
@whooah1979: Pretty sure the magistrate won't rule that butter chicken is essential…
By the way, if you take it to court, I believe the fine changes from $1,600 to $10,000.
@jv: The stage 3 rules didn't define what type of food was or wasn't essential. Furthermore, it didn't define a travel limit. The magistrate should make their ruling based on written law or if none exist common law.
The magistrate should make their ruling based on written law or if none exist common law.
laws are different in a state of emergency.
@jv: Legislation can be enacted during a state of emergency, but they still have to be written before coming into effect.
If the parts are necessary to enable you to undertake permitted work and you can't source those parts anywhere closer in a timely fashion, then I would deem it essential to get them in person.
If not, I would wait until we go back to Stage 3, see if you can get them delivered or purchase them from somewhere closer if possible.
Why can't you get it delivered? PC parts are not food nor medical supplies.
If you do drive out and get stopped, your chance of getting away looks slim.
If its sent properly packaged and registered, there should be no issue in getting it in 5-6 weeks.
You realise Nvidia cards aren't made in Australia and go through international delivery to even get here, right?
That's a lousy excuse for not using postage.
You don't need a 2080ti either to work from home.
@axn: Use postage, mate. You're not going to die from not having your pc parts sooner.
What's with people in Victoria wantonly breaching lockdown like this? No wonder cases are soaring.
You don't need a 2080ti either to work from home.
You do if its anything professional work that requires a beefy graphics card…
@sykeau: Fair enough, but they're more expensive than a 2080Ti, maybe OP doesnt have enough for a quadro but enough for a 2080Ti?
You just answered your own question, a 2080ti is most definitely not required to work from home. Please do the right thing and order online or wait until stage 4 is over, breaking restrictions for this reason is selfish.
The 2080ti has the highest amount of hash from the NVIDIA camp. It's definitely an essential item for a farmer.
I guess we're starting to see why it's so bad in Victoria now…
Ikr.
Ok that explains it. Graphics card cannot be argued as an essential working item. Hard drive, motherboards and other main items might be able to get away with but not GPU.
Who do you think gets it to the store in the first place?
If only there was some form of delivery service that could deliver parcels from the PC store to your doorstep….
There is and it will deliver most non-urgent items within 2 days and urgent ones usually within 6-8 weeks
air task it
I don't believe such a service exists! You should invent one
Uber parcel
Are you kidding? You can't even go to a supermarket over 5km away let alone buy computer parts. You can only leave home for essential - groceries / medical care / caring for a frail family member. That's it.
I think you know the answer…. at least I hope you do
Thanks guys.
I agree. It should be legislation. It isn't good enough that the state premier 'recommends' masks, most people don't.
It is either required or is isn't.You can't blame China at this stage though. Even if they didn't give sufficient public warnings, that was in January
Id get anything you are advised in writing regarding the computer parts. After all, at one stage jigsaw puzzles were "essential" purchases warranting leaving your home. If you want to advise yourself, look up the relevant legislation. I did that with everything that never hit the media in NSW. Just be confident you'd win a court case on it as cops aren't too good at legislation and may at will just fine anyone despite the actual written law. Be ready to quote the relevant section and give them time to google the correct answer.
Try a relay race. All you need is a few people - do five kms each with the parts, exchange at supermarkets, then collect from your nearest regulation supermarket. 😂 In the end, this is you being punished for someone else's mistakes and it's not fair on anyone at the moment. That's why we are all so sick of it. They are quick on the restrictions now, but check out all the preppers/doctors chatter in December/January…they all predicted what was coming and Governments sat there wanting the International student dollars, etc, and in the end we paid more dearly than had they just shut international borders at the beginning.
I've wondered about this too because I need a backup drive after my laptop became my WFH computer.
My Officeworks nearby (under 5km) is still open and has click and collect. Would I legally be able to collect instead of having it delivered?
Yes, my house mate needed new brake pads for his car, so he click and collected from Repco, about 2 kms away.
You can leave your house for shopping once a day to shop within 5 kms
Just be on your way to the injecting room and if out of the way on your way to score FFS. The cops aren't interested in safe injecting Victorians. (And the computer parts are what you're you're using to pay for the smack)
If you have to ask on a public form like this, probably not essential.
I reckon if your work or health is actually in jeopardy by not having these parts, you would already have gone to collect them and prepared to argue your case to anyone who stopped you.
Make sure the BIOS is not infected with a virus
And here we have a perfect example of why Victoria is in Stage 4 lockdowns (and will prob stay that way for awhile thanks to people like the OP).
Not that perfect. Much better examples out there.
Thanks to a (profanity) like Andrews "runnings" things….
Can't believe you dumbarse Victorians downvoted this. You deserve what Dan dishes up to you.
Nah it's thanks to idiot interstate travellers who traded sex for 7/11 coffees because staying inside until they had the all-clear was just too much for their fragile mental states.
Exactly. The amount of people that lack the comprehension that we are in a global pandemic, with Victoria especially having increased cases and community transmission.
air task it
An essential item is subjective. There is no specific definition of what is or isn't an essential item under the current rules. Something mundane as a jigsaw puzzle is an essential item.
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/coronav…
Alright, so it seems there's a bit of confusion going around regarding this. Some people also seem to be insulting a bit. Especially those that say that computer parts are not considered essential at all - from the information I gathered, if a store is trading and has click and collect, then it's considered shopping and allowed under Stage 4 restrictions. Doesn't matter whether YOU consider it to be essential or not.
From what I've read, if a store is operating as click and collect then you're allowed to purchase items from the store (online) and pick them up. The fact that it is operating as click and collect means that you're legally allowed to go pick that item up.
It comes down to whether the store is open and trading. If it is, then click and collect is perfectly fine.
However, if the store is more than 5km away and there isn't a closer one, then you have to get it delivered. So, travelling across town, I highly doubt you'd be able to.
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/shopping-retail-and-personal-ser…
https://www.business.vic.gov.au/disputes-disasters-and-succe…The only reasonable response here.
People are pointing out that it’s not about whether you can rather whether you should, which is a fair point to make in the current situation.
No it's not ok. What's the cost of delivery?
They don't have delivery. It's C&C.
Ah i see. Surely one of the retailers offer delivery for the specific or similar parts they are after.
Or if for any reason you must buy from the one retailer then why not airtasker or gopeople it? Dunno if they are offering 'delivery' during stage 4 lockdown thou.
Good luck op.
Book a courier yourself, email shipping label to store.
I am sure you know what the answer is. Do yourself a favour rather than getting bashed in this forum.
Clear example of why we are doomed the next time a new virus appears but with a much higher mortality rate. We're (profanity).
a new virus appears but with a much higher mortality rate.
Same lab is working on it right now…
Thank God. I was running out of popcorn.
Didn't the PM cover what's essential? Anything up to and including board games and puzzles is essential, right?
Don't forget my chai!
Make sure you have proof to why you’re going there. Something like a confirmation for order pick up.
From my reasoning and point of view it’s a valid reason. If I were you i’d do it. Infact I did go to cpl for order pick up 2 weeks ago.
Short answer yes according to the DHHS website. But you shouldn’t travel any further than you need to.
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/shopping-retail-and-personal-ser…
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/shopping-retail-and-personal-ser…
Provide proof that you can’t get it anywhere else and why you need it and I reckon you’ll be fine (bar nonessential reasons). Although it just sounds like you’re doing a simple pc upgrade which isn’t essential in most cases. But yeah just my opinion whether you actually get fined or not i can’t say for sure. Must be contactless click and collect only.
"For the purposes of shopping, you can only travel up to 5km from your home."
"Can I travel more than 5km from my home to collect a purchase?
You can travel up to 5km from your home to collect necessary goods and services. You should postpone making any purchases that will require you to travel beyond 5km to collect or alternatively organise for the delivery of your purchase. Pick up can only be contactless click and collect."25kms isn't an acceptable distance given the lockdown situation.
STAY HOME!
It's not that I want to stop you getting a fine,
it's that I want you not to add to the unnecessary spread of the virus.Are you saying that OP is infected?
It's called risk management (and doing the right thing) - Who knows whether they're infected or not.
Use hazard controls like PPE if elimination isn't possible or practical.
They very well could be. Even without their own knowledge as a non symptomatic carrier.
Most people don't even know that they are alive, let alone infected…
Since parking officers are still considered essential to issue parking fines when most people can't leave home, I have difficulties determining what is essential. I think it is justifiable if you need that for work, but I also think you can find similar options in a 5km radius, or delivered to your place by other store. Therefore, not justifiable anymore.
Parking officers are essential because where I work there are still many businesses running such as cafes, woolworths, a post office, animal shelter and factories and if there weren't ticket inspectors people would park their car there all day and make it hard for people that need to access the shelter or have shift work in the area. Essential is pretty much medication and food which is readily available within 5kms
Ok, that's a reasonable explanation regarding parking officers.
However, computer parts might be essential to someone who is working from home, or even to someone who just need a descent computer to play games during stage 4 without going crazy. We will probably be in stages 3 and 4 until 2021 (not what I want, but that's my realistic view) and everything that might prevent someone from going crazy/becoming depressed is essential these days. Again, I see no reason why OP can't buy parts within a 5km radius if the parts are essential to him/her, but I don't think most people can live a healthy life with essentially food and medication for several weeks, or months.
Of course OP can buy parts within 5 kms and so can anyone wanting to do shopping within that radius where shops are offering click and collect but they wanted to drive 25km instead
What an absolute load of nonsense. It's people who do things like this that will set us back again and we'll never get out of lock down. Argh
Wow, and we wonder why we are still in lockdown with questions like this….
No. 25kms? You're taking the p!ss surely as a troll post.
Stay the F&^% at home.
This is why we're facing more time in lockdown, you might be just having a laugh but there are idiots out there doing this.
Yes it is essential, that is if you can't order it online, then no it's not essential. Nothing in life is essential apart from life, kids, and tax.
Just get it delivered.
I got stopped by the ADF today on the Hume Freeway on my way to Wallan. They weren't there the day before.
Took a photo of my licence, viewed work permit. Had a small chit chat with them, friendly guys. They were more concerned what I thought about them stopping me than I was bothered by the minor inconvenience.
They actually asked in the end "Hey, do you mind that we are doing this check on you?"
Told them "You do what you have to do. People need to stop whinging and complaining."I could just imagine there were probably guys giving some lip to them. They're the ADF, just shoot them.
Perhaps they are uncomfortable acting as a domestic police without experience?
I got stopped at checkpoints in rural VIC, some police were very nice, some were more abrupt and intimidating
But they were all apprently experienced and quite confident in their role. The ADF I saw were young people (mid 20s) and were taking directions from the police
Can’t believe this is a question. Am I expecting too much from the OzBers?
Please stay home, stay safe. The lockdown is essential. We have seen the nasty side of this situ due to people not following simple instructions from the government.
if pulled over by the police start of with "i'm a sovereign citizen i need computer parts."
be sure to keep us updated lol
A definite no. Other people gave up going to weddings and funerals. Many delayed medical procedures as elective surgery categories. It sucks for everyone but we need to wait it out until things get better.
Buying PC parts to have a working PC is definitely essential.
Especially considering it is used to work and access government services and receive government health information.Those knocking and shaming you are totally pathetic and probably think going to McDonald's for a burger is essential.
I only eat Macca's burgers so, essential for me.
OP doesn’t have a mobile phone or tablet to get that government health information? Do you need a 2080ti to access government websites?
The company I work for is open for click and collect because we support essential serivces much like other retail stores that are allowed to stay open. The things is we are allowed to stay open to support essential services not any random member of the public. If the cops pull you over they won't accept that it was necessary to drive 25kms to save $10 on shipping is an acceptable reason, regardless of if the shop is open for click and collect. If you argue that it is for work reasons, they will point out that it is your work's job to acquire equipment for you and they should have paid for shipping or a private courier. You are asking for a fine and when you contest it, the judge will have heard 100 similar stories that day and will tell you to shut up and pay.
Stay home, pay for shipping and don't be a reason for them to keep us locked down.
Use a courier if you don't trust Auspost. They'll probably get it in a few hours.
Absolutely, you will definitely not survive without pc parts
Can we go onto stage 5 already? Where we shoot people who step 1 meter outside their houses.
I know right. Waiting for Stage 6 where they monitor how much we breathe.
Yeah, stay home. How dare you even ask this question. Stop the spread. Don't even go outside. Some people.
@whooah1979: And if he's smart, he'll delay the case til the restrictions have eased/gone.