Driving & Reversing - Parked Car

Hi All,

I am extra cautious while driving in the car parks. The incident happened when I picked up my kid from school. I got in the car and indicated right to get into the lane towards exit. I started the turn when all clear and before I could realize other car parked diagonally was reversing out. I honked and luckily no harm done. But, the gentleman in the car reversing, shouted that I should have waited since he was reversing. I feel it was unwarranted.

I usually give way if I notice someone is reversing . However, in this case I didn't know he was reversing since the car had not moved out of the parking. He probably had reverse lights on but I didn't notice. I think I did nothing wrong here and other driver should have been extra cautious while reversing out.

I googled but couldn't find much as to who would have been at fault if our cars would have kissed :)

What does the road law / insurance law says?

Thanks!

Edit: Reviewed the dash-cam footage (https://imgur.com/a/X6585ft) and it seems he started reversing at the same time as I drove.

Comments

  • +6

    It’s more a courtesy thing, but I think the reversing driver should have given way to you

    • +1

      It’s more a courtesy thing, but I think the reversing driver should have given way to you

      Its 50/50 in my books, the person driving forward has a better view of what is happening compared to the person reversing. So should have stopped and did what they did, warn the other driver. They are also able to 'see' the cars reversing lights on.

      The fact was, they both started exiting at the same time, crap happens. No harm was done, other than some hurt feelings.

      • Agreed, just that in this case the reverse lights are not clearly visible (reviewed the footage again) and the other car was not out of the parking when I started.
        However, the outburst from the gentleman was unwarranted. It somehow gave me the feeling that he assumed the others should stop for him if he is reversing. All the more surprising that the behavior was displayed when he had a child in the car.
        It just simply don't feel right when others are at fault but still shout first. I get disturbed and don't know how to avoid / react to such provocations.

        • Some people are just angry at the world.

        • However, the outburst from the gentleman was unwarranted

          They had hurt feelings just like you had hurt feelings. No harm done, move on. Special people are everywhere.

          the other car was not out of the parking when I started.
          in this case the reverse lights are not clearly visible

          If you look at your video posted, I can see the reversing lights on the other car as soon as the video starts.

          I can also see the other car starting to move backwards in the video about 1/2 a second before you even started to move.

          As to who is at fault? As above Its 50/50 in my books, the person driving forward has a better view of what is happening compared to the person reversing. If it was me, as part of common courtesy and I was driving forward, I would have waited for them to reverse as I know they have a more limited view than me.

          It somehow gave me the feeling that he assumed the others should stop for him if he is reversing.

          On the flip side, you could see them reversing and didn't stop and give way either. You had the better view of what was happening.

          • @JimmyF: Yeah, move on it is.
            However, I beg to differ. The reverse lights are visible if you focus on the lights of the red car. But, there was no reason for me to focus on the red car as it hadn't moved out of the parking. I was more focused on the left & right side instead of cars parked ahead as I was turning towards right.
            On the flip side, if I am reversing I know I have limited view and have to give way to everything behind.
            He shouted not me so not sure how he had hurt feelings.

    • +3

      It’s more a courtesy thing

      Just follow the law, don't break the law for the sake of courtesy.

      The reversing car must give way.

  • +1

    Legally, think its a 'whoever was there first' has right of way

    Some people reverse fast, some people reverse slow, some people reverse across the road into the front of their neighbours house too

    • +1

      snoop dawg

      • bow to the wow

    • +2

      One of my driving peeves when people reverse out of spots (especially in shopping centre car parks) and think they have the right of way

  • +11

    Reversing a vehicle and the law

    In all states, the road rules clearly state that a driver must not drive a vehicle in reverse unless it is safe to do so. The law also states that drivers should not reverse a vehicle any further than what is reasonably required.

    In an insurance liability setting, the driver who is driving in reverse is automatically deemed to be the at fault driver, regardless of other circumstances (ie: other vehicle illegally parked, forward moving driver moving at speed, etc).

  • +7

    Could you provide an MS Paint diagram pinpointing the exact point at which the other driver hurt your feelings?

    • +1

      Please complete the required fields:
      * ☐ MS Paint diagram
      * ☐ Dash Cam footage

      • +1

        u should rename urself to dashcam and mspaint requirements just like that mspaint guy and then just leave blank comments with your name as your answer to these kinds of questions.

  • I feel if you're stationary when hit (and can prove it) then you'll be in the clear.
    Also, if the other party was reversing prior to your maneuver then you'd be in the wrong (although they still need to check that it's clear behind them).
    This just requires a dash cam though…

  • +4

    So many experts here that don't know the law.

    The reversing vehicle is ALWAYS at fault. That's the law.

    If two vehicles are reversing and collide they are both at fault.

  • And this is why I always reverse and park like the OP

    • I had parked few times like the other car but it used to take very long to reverse out since I gave way to everyone. Never felt entitled for someone to stop if I am reversing out.

  • +1

    the gentleman in the car reversing, shouted that I should have waited since he was reversing.

    Gentleman doesn't act like tools after making a mistake. They apologise and keep their head down in shame.

  • +1

    +1 for the title graphics in the video.

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