Quorn Mince is a good source of protein.
Love cooking with Quorn our mince is great for spaghetti bolognese, homemade meatballs and spicy chilli tacos.
Proudly meat free. Deliciously versatile. Good source of fibre. Low fat.
½ Price Quorn Varieties (Meat Free Mince 300g $3.10) @ Coles
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*clutches pearls*
Why use punching bags when you can just use other people?
Why play GTA when you can just go round shooting others?
Why use a dishwasher when we've been washing dishes "naturally" for thousands of years?
Why use punching bags when you can just use other people?
Why play GTA when you can just go round shooting others?
That is interesting and probably explains people's opinions around fake meat. I haven't had the urge to hit or shoot people so have not had to resort to punching bags or GTA. I also don't go for fake meat as i am not so driven to do so. But other people do need to manage those urges and others have come up with ways where folk can act out those urges with reduced impact.
I am not your monkey. This is not your circus.
Because we don't want the accumulation of plaque in our blood vessels leading to health issues and a higher risk of fatality. Educate yourself.
Really… Eating Ultra processed fake meat?
Why not just eat unprocessed vegetables.Many people go vegan not because they don't like eating meat, but because they don't want to cause unnecessary suffering. They still think meat tastes good, and sometimes still crave that experience, so it's fun to enjoy occasional imitation meats.
Is that so hard to understand?
@Raynes: For some people it is really hard to understand cause they couldn’t give a rats a about how an animal feels unless it’s their cute puppy 🐶
@Raynes: Clearly the meat they're eating is killing some brain cells.
I don't see vegetarians or vegans rushing over to this thread on duck legs: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/557401
I couldn't imagine anything more disgusting or vile but it's none of my business what other people do. I really don't care.
Unfortunately this thread has attracted some indecent people who think their opinion matters.
Its one alternative product out of hundreds which can substitute in a recipe using mince. Its great for people to use legumes with onion in a bolognese, however, If people need a stepping stone substitute product to adjust from mince then its ideal.
Why do I need to explain common sense?
If you dont want to use it, dont.
This obsession with calling anything processed bad is just like the equally ill-informed "all food additives are bad".
I take it I'm correct in assuming you don't have the slightest clue what is in Quorn or how it's made?
Higher risk of fatality being a protesting vegan.
But not as high as the risk of banality from nonvegans.
that's right - we got suckered into trans fat in the 80s, and busted in the 90s. Humans survived for this long eat real food… go figure.
Your assuming its not food. Why not focus on your own diet.
People are making it personal - I dont even use quorn, but it doesnt stop me from defending its use.
Educate yourself
Oh the irony. Google Dunning–Kruger effect. Meat and animal fats do not cause atherosclerosis. There has actually never been scientific evidence to support that flawed fat-causing-heart-disease hypothesis. State of the art scientific thinking, based on evidence we have so far, is that it is excess of refined carbohydrates and industrisl, polyunsaturated vegetable/seed oils (canola, soy bean, sunflower etc.) causing inflammation in the body and atherosclerosis among other things. Saturated fats and cholesterol have in fact a protective effect. This is a simplified explanation of course, but if you're interested in these things I recommend you look beyond the mainstream media, which is usually a decade or two behind the latest science. Vested interests (Big Food/Big Pharma) are not exactly rushing to help the scientific truth to come to the surface sooner rather than later. In the end, it is safest to stick to "real" food. Good luck.
Good luck with what?
Your benign reply shifts the burden of proof away from yourself making the claim. People are capable of researching studies to inform themselves. Your post is not a confirmation of fact, rather it lacks critical thinking.
The nerve of people who want to do things that you don't want to do, honestly
Because some people don't want their body to be a graveyard.
Top kek at the people whoosing over this
very ironic commentThere's one of these posts on every single plant-based meat deal. There's a lot of reasons people want plant-based meat substitutes but they can be summarised as:
- Meat production, particularly beef, is incredibly harmful to the environment
- It's hard to get a lot of protein from vegetables (there's only so many lentils you can eat)
- Animal welfare concerns
- People still like the mouthfeel and taste of meat
These products solve all of the above.
Used to eat this often but I feel like there are much better options these days
It's pretty weird stuff, makes a friend of mine violently ill every time he eats it
Shame it's not vegan eitherNever made me or my friends sick, but the packaging indeed has a warning. It's not bad, but as pointed out, there are as tasty (or tastier), vegan options these days.
is there limits on these in vic
I'm interested to know what some of the better options are.
Me too - what are the better options out there? But better in terms of taste or macros or both?
Beyond Beef is my personal favourite plant-based mince. It ain’t cheap though!
@stingypants: Agreed. For sausage, Alternative meat co sausage is the best out of all those I've tried so far.
Nothing beats the quorn macros. It’s too good. Taste others maybe.
Funky fields is very good (about $9 for a packet which is a bit expensive). You can make a delicious bolognese sauce with it.
Otherwise you can buy the dry soy stuff and as long as you marinate it properly before cooking, it tastes delicious.
As an alternative, the woolworths macro firm tofu is fantastic (even raw - i recommend it as an addition to your pesto pasta or thai curries).
I find Quorn to be particularly disgusting taste-wise and the last time I had some it made me ill for a couple of hours.
Funky Fields is my top mince for sure, it's fantastic
Assuming dry soy stuff = TVP (textured vegetable protein)? Absolute best, very good macros too.
I really like it
Does the same thing to a friend of mine too
Ultra processed and additives.
As above, eat real veg and/or real meat.Every few weeks I have a meat free day and have always enjoyed making stuff without meat than trying to replace! But I guess those ppl are on it 24/7 and need meat alternatives sometimes.
Indeed. Better to eat 40day old franken-birds raised on antibiotic rich feed in a shed. reAL MeAt.
It's probably a sign that you're a decent person that you suck at trolling so bad. You could quit while you're ahead and be better off for it.
@freefall101: Only because the fool above talked trash about delicious Chicken, I was talking normal before he chimed in… can't wait for the half price duck legs. Will be buying lots. I actually did order 12 pieces of H&S today.
Over the weekend I ate foie gras as well!
Eat Kangaroo, it's ~organic~ and there's no farming involved.
Mycoprotein is a protein made from fungus
What Is Mycoprotein and Is It Safe to Consume?
https://www.healthline.com/health/mycoproteinYes, it's mould. Which is a type of fungus but doesn't sound as appealing ;)
In the US, they even have to state it on the label: "“Mycoprotein is a mold (member of the fungi family). There have been rare cases of allergic reactions to products that contain mycoprotein.”
Did someone say KFC ?
🐔🐔🐔🐓🐓🐓Hot and Spicy?
I don't care.
Genuine question @easternculture. Which of the following fits you best?:
a) Does not believe there is a single ethical/moral issue with eating meat.
b) Admits that being vegetarian/vegan is perhaps the more moral/ethical thing to do, but is personally not willing to give up eating meatI guess option (c) would be 'agrees it is the more moral/ethical thing to do, and is therefore vegetarian/vegan', but I'm assuming this does not apply to you.
Will this give you quorn in your poo?
Thank you!
Definitely a diverse bunch of people we have here 👍.
This stuff isn't bad, pretty affordable for meat-free options. I still like to grab the Moving Mountains range when I see it on clearance. Those snags are phenomenal.
Interesting. Haven't tried. Are you getting them at Woolworths?
Yep, they're expensive at full price but I sometimes bite the bullet anyway
perfect for quornatine thanks
im very odd about my macro protein carbs and fat. now they look good on paper, ultra low carbs, fat, and high protein.
but i ate these everyday for 2 months, i actually only just got bloated and my weight did not change.
you can see that is completely processed, so do not recommend. definitely go for whole vegetarian foods, or sourced from.
meat alternative is great once in a while tho, the quorn pieces actually taste like chicken.
but don't eat these for dieting.
If you understand macros, and therefore CICO you would know that this product does not prevent you from losing fat and or muscle mass. Water retention maybe but I haven’t found that.
CICO is a wrong paradigm for weight loss. Human body is not a furnace. Different macro nutrients have different impact on our body, specifically on hormonal response e.g. insulin, ghrelin, leptin, cortisol etc. Understanding that is the key to understanding weight loss. CICO is too simplistic.
Still heaps better than the earlier comment about eating processed food makes you not lose any weight. CICO is simplistic but is the number 1 factor in how much weight (how much muscle vs. fats vs water you lose is another topic altogether) you could lose.
Well I only have a rudimentary understanding of endocrinology from uni, I agree that different foods have effects on your hormones and how you feel, what you crave, what your body uses for energy, what it stores etc.
I’d love to have a blood glucose monitor to keep my insulin levels exactly where I want them; but it’s complicated. The simplicity of CICO is its beauty.
@cruiseronroad: I use the Abbott Freestyle Libre continuous glucose monitor. Expensive, but worth it even if you use it couple of times a year to give you an idea of how different foods impact your glucose levels. Very insightful.
@findingbargains: Interesting product indeed, I did see a breathalyser like product but apparently it was bunk. Do you need the analyser in addition to the sensor? I'm not diabetic so it seems expensive considering the sensors aren't reusable.
@cruiseronroad: No, you can use a phone app and nfc on the phone to scan the sensor. I am prediabetic and I use it for preventative purposes, as a negative feedback loop of sorts, to stop me from overindulging in carbs and hopefully prevent or at least delay getting T2 diabetes. There's nothing quite like seeing those readings shoot up when eating wrong food and that allows corrective action to be taken mainly by changing food habits and feeding behaviours. Over time you learn your patterns and what foods have more or less impact. Hardest thing about preventing t2 diabetes is the fact that it usually develops over a number of years and it is a human trait to more or less ignore that which is not of immediate harm.
The simplicity of CICO is its beauty.
I agree if the only goal is to lose weight and factors such as qualitative outcome (i.e. what type of mass you actually lose: muscle or fat), the likelihood of compliance with the calorie reduction (i.e. how much you suffer during the diet) and potential for rebound (whether and how quickly you gain the lost weight back) are not important to the individual. In other words macro ratios can make the diet more or less effective to the point that right ratios make calorie counting pretty much unnecessary, because your body will in that case naturally regulate the hunger and downregulate the overall amount of calories you consume. For more stubborn cases, some intermittent fasting should see the weight start to come off.
@findingbargains: im a simple guy, if it doesnt work it doesnt work. whole foods > processed. period. don't need science to back this up, studies or theories to back this one up.
What do you think the word processed means?
As a phrase it's pretty meaningless (chopped up an onion? It's now processed food), so to make a claim about how it's affected the nutrition you need to identify the actual process that causing this alleged harm.
Don't get me wrong, avoiding heavily processed food is a great rule of thumb, and you absolutely should not assume vegan junk food is healthier than meat based junk food, but if you're going to make a claim that X is unhealthy then you really need to be able to back it up with more than "it looks processed".
i think i might have a Quorn addiction
will be giving the Quorn Frozen Vegan Hot & Spicy Burgers a whirl
At least you don't have to worry about these going mouldy.
I think I found somewhere (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ maybe?) which states that animal protein is better than plant protein in term of absorption into human body, and animal proteins are complete protein but plant proteins are not complete.
Link to study, I've heard about this but think it's negligible or been debunked.
I wouldn't mind trying this mince wouldn't pay full price and last time sold out. Personally I just shoes for being mix , kidney beans, black beans etc in bolognese.
- Can the digestible indispensable amino acid score methodology decrease protein malnutrition?
https://academic.oup.com/af/article/9/4/18/5575466
"Animal proteins such as meat and milk have greater DIAAS values than plant proteins, but by complementing plant proteins with low DIAAS values with animal proteins with greater DIAAS values, balanced meals that are adequate in all amino acids can be provided."
- Impact of antinutritional factors in food proteins on the digestibility of protein and the bioavailability of amino acids and on protein quality
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23107545/
"Among common food and feed protein products, soyabeans are the most concentrated source of trypsin inhibitors. The presence of high levels of dietary trypsin inhibitors from soyabeans, kidney beans or other grain legumes have been reported to cause substantial reductions in protein and amino acid digestibility (up to 50 %) and protein quality (up to 100 %) in rats and/or pigs. Similarly, the presence of high levels of tannins in sorghum and other cereals, fababean and other grain legumes can cause significant reductions (up to 23 %) in protein and amino acid digestibility in rats, poultry, and pigs. Normally encountered levels of phytates in cereals and legumes can reduce protein and amino acid digestibility by up to 10 %. D-amino acids and LAL formed during alkaline/heat treatment of lactalbumin, casein, soya protein or wheat protein are poorly digestible (less than 40 %), and their presence can reduce protein digestibility by up to 28 % in rats and pigs, and can cause a drastic reduction (100 %) in protein quality, as measured by rat growth methods."
- Protein – Which is Best?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905294/
" Animal sources provide a complete source of protein (i.e. containing all essential amino acids), whereas vegetable sources generally lack one or more of the essential amino acids. "
Which is irrelevant because when you combine multiple plant proteins (which everyone should be doing for a healthy diet anyway - even omnivores) you get all the amino acids. And to keep it on topic, Quorn is a complete protein (i.e. it contains every type of amino acid).
While it's true plant protein is generally less efficient at being absorbed, given there is a massive overconsumption of protein (people have suddenly become obsessed with getting it unnecessarily), it's a complete non-issue. There are lots of vegan athletes and bodybuilders who get sufficient protein (many of which don't even bother using protein shakes). If they can get enough, I'm pretty sure you can!
@callum9999: Who eats all their protein from one source anyway? Not like we expect meat eaters to be eating chicken every single meal.
Haven't had time to read all of that but isnt' that study tested on pigs and rats? Can be very different to human trials and results.
Anyway protein deficiency isn't a thing, have you ever heard of anyone who was, short of being in total starvation and in dire circumstances?
You've got to also look which industries fund these studies..
@vchung916: Glad you watched the game changers.
It may be a bit biased but nothing technically or medically wrong with it. Just a bit of an eye opener and inspiration for the general public.
study sponsored by the meat council I'm sure
For ppl that are genuine about switching to a flexitarian or more plant based diet, this is a very good source for how you can maintain your macro and micro nutrient levels.
https://vegfaqs.com/essential-amino-acid-profiles-beans/
Diversity is key to a healthy lifestyle regardless of which diet you choose to follow.
Large portabello mushrooms, sliced thick, browned in garlic & olive oil w/a bit of white wine make YUMMY "steak" for wraps/fajitas or diced and use as meat replacement for basically anything you'd use meat for— they have great texture when not overcooked. Mix it up with tofu and get creative with spices, shallots, etc. & I think a lot of people would be pleasantly surprised. A mix of various beans with rice + diced porta's is fantastic.
That sounds good, much better off having whole foods. While mok meats are a novel once in a while treat they are fairly processed and not cheap or particularly healthy (but still obviously better than their meat counterparts)
Wouldn't say obviously better than meat counterparts.
Oh right, I should have said cruelty free alternative (meaning no animals died), and health wise typically less saturated fat and cholesterol.
I compared seven eleven's vegan sausage rolls to the regular ones, 30% better in terms of the above and sodium content too. Still junk food though.
Thanks OP, got a bunch.
If you're looking for a good recipe this Stir-Fried Udon where you substitute the pork with Quorn is fantastic.