Hey OzB,
Had quite a few job interviews in the last few weeks, most of them have been trolls.
I'm not sure if its just a Corona thing or some new HR thing, but they all keep dropping hints to call them back…for some reason?
Keeps coming back as creepy.
Any input?
These are all first off phone interviews, both with guys and girls, theyre just the HR people 🤷♂️
You seem hot from your posts. You have my number, give me a call sometime.
It's a trap, stop! Noooooooooooooooo!
@theHMASfriendship: I'll get in if you have lollies and candies….or something attractive to get me inside….that I like….
phone interviews
You don't happen to be "the Golden Tonsils" Jr?
just the HR people
We all have needs. :)
you look cute from your profile pic wanna go out on a date.
ASL?
What a great ice breaker this was!
At least you are getting calls, me nothing! :D
Are you good looking?
Do you want to leave him a voicemail too? :)
You must be a stunner, so irresistible even in a professional interview setting the HR person can't resist dropping a hint for you to call them back.
Well my one today was 'well youve got my number, it goes direct to my desk'
Job seems ok but its got that strong troll vibe
The "direct to my desk" part is definitely weird. (profanity) creep, what's his name? What business is this? I will file a complaint.
Its a she, and its a international company
Complaints go nowhere, trying to figure out if theres a real job or its a troll
@AustriaBargain: To stop that behaviour from affecting others and also to stop any potential bad publicity as a result for that company because of one retarded individual.
I think you need to read up on what a 'troll' means.
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] either for the troll's amusement or a specific gain
Whether you think the job is beneath you or the interviewer was 'batshit crazy,' do you actually believe this qualifies as trolling? Or do you honestly believe these people had nothing better to do than take 30 minutes out of their day to waste your time?
@SydStrand: Also could be:
an ugly creature depicted as either a giant or a dwarf.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=define+troll&go=Search&qs=n&fo…
@WoodYouLikeSomeCash: Also:
sing (something) in a happy and carefree way.
"he trolled a note or two"
Source: Google.
thats right, come play league of legends, we will show you what a real troll is.. teemo jungle..
Probably a crazy idea, but why don’t you call them back after 24hrs and see what happens?
That's a preposterous idea
Well, I don’t know… does he have their number… and does it go to their desk?
Horrible attitude.
It's called initiative. If you want a job there maybe you should call to follow up.
I guess being proactive and taking initiative isn't on his dictionary
You did job interviews and you think people conducting job interviews are "trolls" - WTF?!
Makes no sense. I don't think we have the same definition of a troll
why would they hint to call them back if there was no job to begin with - they'd be more inclined to say "don't call us, we'll call you"
My office manager received about 200 applications for every job advertised before COVID times. If we were to advertise now, it'd probably be even more. Do you think she should be chasing the applicants, or the applicants chasing the job if they really want it?
1 - advertise job
2 - apply for job
3 - shortlist
4 - schedule interview
5 - attend interview
6 - select successful candidate
7 - offer job
8 - accept job
in a professional environment when exactly is "applicants chasing the job" supposed to happen?
other than 2,5, or 8 if someone makes contact they will likely get thrown out. perhaps before 2 there might be a "research position" step where you may make contact with company.
how bout every 24 hours
Maybe your shy? All you need for the perfect interview is a black lounge.
…and a camera
with a gin and tonic, or something harder?
Yeah, something diamond-hard.
Just to clarify… are you giving the interviews or are you going for the interviews? If you're the one going for interviews, how are companies trolling you?
If you're the one giving the interviews, then I can understand interviewees being trolls.
If you're the one going for interviews, how are companies trolling you?
This actually happens quite a lot.
Often the manager has already decided to give the job to someone they know personally, such as a person who works in the same company, or an ex-colleague from another company. But, because of HR Rules, the manager can't just give the person the job. So, they go through a sham advertisement and interview process, where other candidates are selected, interviewed and rejected just to get the HR paperwork in order.
This, alot more of this happening in corona, from my view
Yep, this is prevalent in government when they've done an internal hire and are going through the steps to make it seem like a legitimate process.
They do this in private sector, where they've already decided to hire an international who will accept minimum wage to work a job that a Local can fill.
They wont lie, but they'll claim they couldn't find the "right" skilled candidate for the job. That being, a candidate who meets all the technical requirements but isn't willing to work minimum wage.
Going for interviews.
Someone, somewhere has the thought to 'fill that gap'.
However going through the hiring process, they realise that filling the 'gap' requires work and effort.
And the position just dissolves into 'gone a different direction'
Or the interviewees all suck?
Better to hire no one than an incompetent.
+1 Finicky
as a manager, we don't do what aardvarks has just described - recruitment process costs $$s - you don't do it for the sake of it.
Even if they did, the post makes no sense - why would they hint to call them back and waste more time if they didn't want anyone in the position.
Managers are always time poor and wanting to screen the dozens of potential candidates, people who want to sell you stuff, and your existing team who all need to talk to you about x, y, and z. They'd be more inclined to say "don't call us, we'll call you" if they were running some sort of bogus recruitment or don't think you are suitable for any job/s.
Call them back and just play that song.
Did your interview take place on one of these? lol
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/040/the…
Maybe it's a polite way of saying you're so forgettable they will never remember to call you back themselves.
If it's a role where you're going to be dealing with customers (account manager for example), they could be trying to see if you're the type of person who will take initiative and follow through with offers to call back.
While I haven't experienced this myself, I have heard of companies doing it. I think it's predominantly a US thing, but wouldn't surprise me if some companies had started doing it here. Even if you don't get the job, making a follow up call shows you're interested in the job enough to contact the interviewers again, which could be useful if they're looking for people for similar roles in the future.
Not paying enough for convoluted mind games or long term relationships
What you aren't getting is that convouted mind games etc are what you are up for starting out. Once you have some good experience behind you then you will know if you have the job before the interview.
Another way to say this a bit clearer is that when you don't have much experience, only your attitude is what they have to go off. Afterwards your CV and turning up not looking like a bogan will get you the job
I really don't understand your angle OP. Either this thread is a troll or you are reading way too much into the interviewers saying feel free to call us or whatever they say after the interview.
If it's a role where you're going to be dealing with customers (account manager for example), they could be trying to see if you're the type of person who will take initiative and follow through with offers to call back.
This.
Sounds like its a hint to call them back the next day.
and it sounds like as a tactic it has worked, because the fact that aardvarks has reacted in this way is exposing the … umm… "attitude issue" that they are probably trying to avoid
What roles have you been interviewing for? Normally I have to wait until I hear back from them so it's rare to be told to call back.
50-60k jobs, both 'full time casual' and actual full time positions
What sort of work/industry?
I literally end every work email or conversation with internal or external stakeholder, "feel free to contact me on xx"
I wouldn't hire you based on your thought pattern exhibited here. They're saying call us to follow up…. so call.
They probably found that your OzB account
many people dont realise those agencies are the worst of the worst.
just remember this:
if they think you will score the job, they will chase you up like there is no tomorrow (because you bring commission to them not because they are kind or love you).
when they say "call me tomorrow/day after/next week" it means they have decided you are NOT the best candidate for the job.
move on when you hear that clue….. its their style of saying "goodbye you are wasting my time and bring no money"
….not because they are kind or love you
oh what? All this time, I thought…. I thought…
My world has suddenly just come crashing down!
I've never had a recruiter actively follow up an interview with 'call me tomorrow, etc'.
They've only ever said, 'thanks, we'll be in touch' if I'm not a good candidate.
Yep essentially just glorified sales people
These have been both with agencies and the 'executive vice chairman of transatlantic operations covering north asia and the pacific' himself
any "executive vice chairman" worthy of the title isn't interviewing people for 60k jobs.
especially "transatlantic, pacific and asia" smells like a two man company.
How much are they paid?
If you are not hearing back from them you could always call and ask for whether they have any feedback on your interview/application? If you're out there looking for work it may help you better tailor your approach or better highlight skills or strengths that you have that you may not be getting across to the prospective employer. Not sure how common it is but I have given frank and honest feedback to some candidates if they are unsuccessful or have asked for it. A lot of the time I know whether I'm going to hire someone straight after a phone interview and so they may know very quickly whether or not you'll be successful.
That being said, we follow up with candidates if they are going to be progressed to the next stage. Not the other way around. It may be as the others suggested and you were not successful and they are just saying that in a more polite manner i.e. 'well we are not going to call you back but feel free to call us if you want us to tell you that'.
Follow up on a few and ask for that feedback and hopefully you get some insights. What's the worst that can happen?
For reference I look after a mine / team of mining engineers so a somewhat niche field. Good luck with the job hunting mate
I think it is just a friendly way of saying call us back if you have any further questions.
If it is direct interviews and no through agencies it might also be worthwhile giving them a call to get some feedback.
so call them back then…do u want the job or not?
'Weve decided to go with another candidate whose experiences and talents match our vision more closely'
are you expecting to get offered every job you interview for? what has been your experience in the past? is this your first time interviewing for jobs?
Well… I guess you didnt get the job then…..after calling back….
Probably just a new way of them having to do less ie. call everyone back that was unsuccessful.
They never contact you to say "no" anymore. That went away with loyalty and training.
I'm getting a strong vibe of low self awareness. i.e. Sorry you're not going ro get the job but call us but please don't.
Like one of the previous posts, if they usually like what they see they will call or return your missed calls. If not, it wasn't yours to begin with.
I would think they also need to build a database of potential candidates who might be good, but not necessarily for the job advertised, but something they might have in the works.
just tell them ur from Victoria
Its easier if you call them that them taking effort to call you back
You would be surprised how "efficient" and "dedicated" they are.
I have no idea how they justify their pay in many circumstances as part of a company, whereas recruitment guys earn commission much like a real estate agent or car salesman, and should be treated as such.
How desperate are you for the job?
This happened to me a few times but some want to see if you're proactive whilst others can't give you an answer currently but can later but may forget you. I usually do a follow up contact (not all the time but once in a while just to know). I actually got my job after calling a few times, first time they didn't have anything for me but had something in the future, second time was just perfect timing when the workplace needed more help and got me in for a trial.
OP, Mates playing a good old trick on you?
Theres a reason small and crappy businesses are small and crappy
There's a reason you're unemployed.
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bit of optimism and positive energy go a long way in being considered a good 'cultural fit' for businesses.
No one wants to work with a grump.
Unemployment getting higher
small and large business all scaling back
If you want a job in this environment, and aren't proactive/don't go above and beyond to show you are capable, they'll hire one of the dozens that will
Employers don't owe you anything. Good luck
Are you a guy or a gal? ASL Please.
Are you Head Troll of Trans Dimensional Bridge Operations ?
I am No ONE.
Most likely a guy, never assume an internet user is a grill.
Funniest troll post ever
I think OP is the problem here, not the interviewers…
OP from the tone of your posts, maybe they thought you didn't want their job even though you are qualified. So they parted with "well you have my number" for when/if you sound interested.
It's a test to see how bad you want the job
Above comments concisely summarise the interview process
Are you good looking?