Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) CL18 1.35V $110.16 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU

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Vengeance LPX memory is designed for high-performance overclocking. The heat SP reader is made of pure aluminum for faster heat dissipation, and the custom performance PCB helps manage heat and provides superior overclocking headroom. Each IC is individually screened for performance potential. The DDR4 form factor is optimized for the latest Intel DDR4 motherboards and offers higher frequencies, greater bandwidth, and lower power consumption than DDR3 modules.

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  Void on 25/07/2020 - 23:09

  +1

  I don't think they've ever used Samsung C-die in the 18-22-22-42 kits, but maybe it is there and I've just never seen it. It's consistently been Hynix MFR or Hynix CJR, with the latter being more common as the MFR batches are being phased out. Hynix CJR is a pretty good one, it can do 3600 16-19-19 at ~1.35-1.4V on an average stick.

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    integral on 26/07/2020 - 13:35

    MFR caps out around 3333MHz. One of the older versions of Thaiphoon used to misreport CJR as MFR so yeah. It could also be DJR which is the successor to CJR.

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      Void on 26/07/2020 - 13:48

      So THAT'S why people keep telling me their 3600 18-22-22-42 kits are MFR, I could've sworn MFR didn't go past around the 3400 mark.

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    captaincabinets on 26/07/2020 - 14:49

    Was RAM always this complicated and I never knew about it, or has it got messier in the DDR4-era?

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      Void on 26/07/2020 - 14:57

      +1

      Yup. DDR3 just freaking worked, now you have to be extremely careful with mixing and QVL.

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      Charity on 26/07/2020 - 23:04

      IMHO, the components are virtually the same in terms of quality; The QVL is just a recommended list. But stick with it if you have any doubts. The real issues are with Windows 10. 7 was a far more stable product.

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  Shaolinking on 26/07/2020 - 03:08

  worth getting?

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  jonathonsunshine on 26/07/2020 - 05:03

  Just waiting on just one slightly positive mention of Ryzen.

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    mauricem on 26/07/2020 - 13:28

    Unlike some of the Corsair listings this doesnt have an option to pick AMD variant. Having been burnt once by Corsair ram not working at full speed with Ryzen I wouldnt risk it.
    The teamforce 3600 sticks have the same timing and are Hynix CJR and the "DarkzA" series is specifically for AMD as opposed to the "Darkz"

    https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07Z4NTYDM/ref=ppx_yo_d…

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      Void on 27/07/2020 - 08:26

      I was helping out on reddit with someone struggling with unstable Corsair RAM. The issue is that Corsair are pumping 1.35V into the Samsung C-die they are using in their RAM, but poor to average airflow setups won't be able to move all that air over the 10nm chips. The fixed ended up being both setting their exhaust fan over the top of it as intake and then undervolting it to 1.28V and now it works.

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    qnm on 29/07/2020 - 08:29

    I have the 32GB kit and have problems running at 3200 for extended periods.

    Seeing the comment below makes me think they might be right about my airflow.

    XMP-1 (2933) is perfectly stable.

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  ashoz85 on 26/07/2020 - 07:41

  +1

  Lol at the marketing bs on these with temps and heat.

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    promethbastard on 26/07/2020 - 16:46

    Can't help but laugh at it tbh. Make the board look pretty. That's all you gotta do guys.

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    Void on 27/07/2020 - 08:37

    The funniest part is the Samsung C-die they're mostly using in this kit is very temperature sensitive and easily heats up being on the 10nm process, and Corsair are just chucking 1.35V (the upper limit of daily driving, requires airflow) at it when the average airflow setup doesn't cool them enough. This means that these sticks with Samsung C-die have a higher "failure" rate than others. I tested my C-die (no heatspreader, but they're usually for aesthetics and make no difference) with 24c ambient on a more average-high airflow setup, at 1.35V it errored about 3 minutes into a stress test. I dropped ambient to 21c and it's working again. It's a really decent IC for the price for overclockers, but manufacturers can't be selling this stuff at least not to your average PC user who doesn't know about voltages and temp related instability.

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  Flop on 26/07/2020 - 08:33

  -2

  I just bought a thinkpad l570 Intel® Core i5 7200U Processor @2.50 GHz (7th Gen), 4 GB DDR3 RAM. Would this ram be a good choice for an upgrade?

  Lenovo says "32GB max, DDR4 2400MHz1, dual-channel capable, 2 x SO-DIMM slots", "1 System clocks down for processors with lower memory controller" I don't know what this means.

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    Syaoran74 on 26/07/2020 - 08:34

    +2

    No it won't… You have a laptop, this is desktop ram

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      jasswolf on 26/07/2020 - 12:38

      -1

      Even if they could plug it in, probably can't even take DDR4.

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    Marco1993 on 26/07/2020 - 09:52

    +2

    Re: System clocks down for processors with lower memory controller

    If you put a higher speed RAM into the computer the processor's memory controller will only allow up to the max clock speed supported by the processor. The RAM will downclock its speed to match with the processor.

    Meaning don't waste your money in buying a faster RAM because the CPU is the bottleneck

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  DarkOz on 26/07/2020 - 13:22

  -2

  Rams literally cost less than half price compared to about a year ago. That’s how much consumers had been ripped off.

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    beet on 26/07/2020 - 14:31

    Ever heard of Moore's Law? Obviously technology is going to get cheaper at time progresses, especially when new versions are being developed.

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      captaincabinets on 26/07/2020 - 14:48

      -1

      That's not the end of the conspiracy though man. Companies buy things cheap, and then sell them for PROFIT*

      *after paying their fixed and variable costs.

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  almando on 26/07/2020 - 14:24

  got the same kit last month. Thaiphoon burner reports it as micron E-die

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    Void on 27/07/2020 - 08:29

    +1

    Don't even bother with Thaiphoon on Corsair RAM, if it's correct it was by luck lmao. The only proper way to check is to see the version number listed on the sticker of the DIMM itself and see what it corresponds to here:

    3.20 Micron 4Gbit Rev.A Presumed
    3.21 Micron 4Gbit Rev.B Confirmed
    3.22 Micron 4Gbit Rev.E Speculated
    3.22 Micron 4Gbit Rev.F Confirmed
    3.31 Micron 8Gbit Rev.B Confirmed
    3.33 Micron 8Gbit Rev.D Presumed
    3.34 Micron 8Gbit Rev.E Speculated
    4.14 Samsung 4Gbit D-die (4x16) Confirmed
    4.23 Samsung 4Gbit D-die Confirmed
    4.24 Samsung 4Gbit E-die Confirmed
    4.31 Samsung 8Gbit B-die Confirmed
    4.32 Samsung 8Gbit C-die Confirmed (Use "Samsung OEM" if using DRAM calculator)
    4.49 Samsung 16Gbit M-die Speculated
    4.40 Samsung 16Gbit A-die Speculated
    5.29 Hynix 4Gbit MFR Confirmed
    5.20 Hynix 4Gbit AFR Confirmed
    5.21 Hynix 4Gbit BJR Speculated
    5.39 Hynix 8Gbit MFR Confirmed
    5.30 Hynix 8Gbit AFR Presumed
    5.31 Hynix 8Gbit "BFR"??? Speculated
    5.32 Hynix 8Gbit CJR Presumed Confirmed
    8.20 Nanya 4Gbit Rev.A Speculated
    8.30 Nanya 8Gbit Rev.A Speculated

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      almando on 27/07/2020 - 12:38

      Thanks. 3.31 so micron Rev.B
      Where is the list from?

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        Void on 27/07/2020 - 12:40

        I dug it up on a forum by googling "Corsair memory versions". They are correct about Samsung so I'm pretty sure they are reliable. Micron Rev.B or B-die (not to be confused with Samsung B-die) cannot be calculated past 3466 on DRAM calculator, so you're left to your own devices to see how far it goes.

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  doweyy on 28/07/2020 - 12:17

  $101.97 now :)

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    Shaolinking on 29/07/2020 - 01:46

    Yeah it just dropped! Keep that in mind this is CMK16GX4M2D3600C18 (15-15-15-36), probably Micron.

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  Shaolinking on 29/07/2020 - 01:20

  Ok I haven't done OC on my memory, I have the 4.31 Samsung 8Gbit B-die (3200). Is that….. good to push?

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  turkz1 on 30/07/2020 - 20:32

  $101.22 now