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Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz $107.59 + $7.94 Delivery @ Amazon US via AU

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Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 Desktop Gaming Memory Black 16-18-18-36 1.35V XMP 2.0 Supports 6th Intel® Core™ i5/i7

16GB of High-Speed 3200Mhz DDR4 Memory
Designed for high-performance overclocking with 8-Layer PCB
Designed and optimized for the latest Intel X99 and Skylake 6th Gen Core i5/i7 Platform
Supports Intel XMP 2.0 Automatic Overclocking
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  • Joshminey on 29/06/2020 - 19:32
    +3

    Pretty solid kit runs nice with a Ryzen 5 3600

    • Void on 30/06/2020 - 15:13
      +6

      Hijacking top comment… this is Samsung C-die. Corsair messed up their SPDs for C-die kits, so they read as B-die or SK Hynix. C-die usually does 3200 15-17-17-32, 3600 17-20-20-37 and 3800 18-21-21-39. Don't pass 1.35V on these kits, they use a smaller manufacturing process and are more prone to electro migration at lower voltages and are also very temperature sensitive. I had an OC on C-die completely invalidated by a 3 degree change in ambient temperature. This is a good thread about it and may require translation. If you want to use DRAM calculator select Samsung OEM (I checked the timings it gives me and it's definitely the one for C-die), and for PCB revision use Thaiphoon Burner to find the "Raw Card" value of it. This one claims to use an 8 layer PCB, so I'm pretty sure it's the A2 revision but always good to check. DRAM calculator doesn't go past 3466MT/s, so you're left to your own devices for anything higher. If you have any questions about timings or need help with overclocking it hit me up! I'm bored in quarantine, so I'll help as many people as I can.

      • buggy86 on 04/07/2020 - 00:25

        Thanks for that info i've been trying to OC the same Ram using B-Die timings and was wondering why it kept failing, might give this guide a go instead, just checked as well mine is the A0 revision but still showing 8layer so /shrug

        • Void on 04/07/2020 - 00:54

          Eh it's A0 then. I will retract that statement. Also DRAM calculator voltage is wild, it's best kept under or at 1.35V.

  • 4ustralian on 29/06/2020 - 19:52

    I saw someone received a fake ram and not AMD support.

  • cosmokram3r on 29/06/2020 - 20:07
    +1

    Will this work with a B450M / Ryzen 5 3500X? It does say on the specs:

    Compatibility Intel 200 Series,Intel 300 Series,Intel 400 Series,Intel X299,AMD 300 Series,AMD 400 Series,AMD X570

    • Tyler Kwok on 29/06/2020 - 20:41
      +3

      amd 400 series = b450, in short, it will work.

      • cosmokram3r on 29/06/2020 - 21:07

        Thanks just bought it

    • vikavish on 29/06/2020 - 21:06
      +2

      Yeah bro, this is very good ram for ryzen. You can overclock to 3466 usually pretty easily.

      • cosmokram3r on 29/06/2020 - 21:07

        Thanks just bought it

      • mimik13 on 30/06/2020 - 08:14

        Ooh you've just given me something to do.

        • Void on 30/06/2020 - 15:15

          What if I told you you can also overclock to 3800 usually pretty easily… it can do 3600CL17 at 1.35V (don't pass it, this is Samsung C-die) which will should be able to do FCLK 1:1 on all Zen 2 processors, it can also do 3800CL18 but it's rare for a Zen 2 processor to go past 1866 FCLK making you very lucky if you can pull off 3800MT/s 1:1. See my top comment for more info.

      • Void on 30/06/2020 - 15:31
        +1

        No… no it isn't. For the price sure, but it's not great for Ryzen being Samsung C-die. The tRFC is atrocious, coming in at a whopping 310ns when tRFC is one of the most important timings for Ryzen. Hynix CJR or Samsung B-die (if found at a reasonable price) will be far better. Micron Rev.E is probably even better. This is second last to Hynix AFR which is literal garbage. Obviously we're ignoring price here. It seems all the cheaper kits are using Samsung C-die these days.

        • myb89 on 30/06/2020 - 21:51

          Hey Rajeh, thanks for your post. I am wondering if I am just doing basic overclocking (i am a first time PC builder) would something like this deal suit me fine? As long as I don’t exceed 1.35v? The parts I have gotten so far are Ryzen 5 3600, B450 Tomahawk Max and Sapphire’s 5600XT. Highly appreciate your advice, ty!

          • Void on 30/06/2020 - 21:53
            +1

            @myb89: Yeah I was just saying it isn't the best for Ryzen, but it's definitely perfectly fine. I'm running the same die with my 3500X, so you should be able to pull a similar OC to mine. It's running 3733CL18 right now, and I have also done 3600CL17 and 3200CL15. Definitely fine for basic overclocking. DRAM calculator doesn't go over 3466MT/s, so you gotta go manual for anything above that (3600 is ideal for Ryzen but higher is better).

            • myb89 on 30/06/2020 - 23:24

              @Void: Thanks mate. Ill stick with 3200 In that case:)

            • cosmokram3r on 20/07/2020 - 17:03

              @Void: Weird it doesn't work with my Ryzen. I also got a 3500X. I'm about to return it. I also updated the BIOS but soon as the RAM is in, my PC won't boot up. Without the ram and using my normal RAM and it works fine.

              • Void on 20/07/2020 - 17:47

                @cosmokram3r: Make sure it's seated properly, and make sure to use the CMOS jumpers upon inserting the new RAM. If the memory is the issue there's really no point buying the same one again, this isn't even a deal. Can get the same stuff often for $99 but usually $109.

  • kaleidoscope on 29/06/2020 - 21:17

    For items shipped from amazon us, how does RMA process work? Do we have to pay for shipping? (i.e. assume you're a amazon prime member)

  • thewarden on 29/06/2020 - 21:41

    There's also this for an extra $10 - same thing just shipped from Aus: https://www.amazon.com.au/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-…

  • jooncheez on 29/06/2020 - 21:57

    $126 for the white version, free shipping with Prime. I think these are normal prices:
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/goto/541321

    Got it for $88 in January.

  • lurkt on 29/06/2020 - 22:13

    Is this compatible with the ASUS ROG Strix X370-F mobo? I searched on ASUS' website but this model number isn't listed under their qualified vendors list, but something else similar to it is: CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16

    • Void on 30/06/2020 - 15:16

      QVL is important at a point, when you're trying to run dual rank (4 sticks or 16GB+ on single sticks) it becomes important. In standard 2x8 which is very easy on the IMC you're fine. I don't know who's downvoting a genuine question.

  • Scoobth on 30/06/2020 - 00:12

    I have Just pulled out some Vengeance LPX from my Ryzen X570 system due to compatibility issues.(I purchased the wrong stuff at the start of the year) I was running Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 Ver 4.32 which is the first model that comes up when you click the link to Amazon website. This is Intel optimised not Ryzen Optimised. Pay close attention to the Model number when purchasing for Ryzen.

    You can select from the dropdown Ryzen compatible version which is CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16 - It is more expensive.

    I have now swapped to running GSKill Flare with no issues.

    • GeorgeS on 30/06/2020 - 02:32

      I have the 2*16gb 4.32. I've been able to get it to 3066 on a Mortar Max with a 3600. Not ideal, but I can live with it.

      • Scoobth on 30/06/2020 - 07:50

        Yes I was able to get mine up to a similar speed, (which isn't the marketed rate) but my biggest issue was stability, even at stock speeds. This has totally been fixed by changing to different ram.

      • Void on 30/06/2020 - 15:21

        2x16GB is evil for the IMC because it's dual rank. You didn't by chance purchase 2 single 16GB sticks rather than a 2x16GB kit did you?

        Edit: Little advice, and this goes to anyone reading this. If your memory is running at less than 3333 I recommend forcing your FCLK on Ryzen 3000 to 1800 while leaving your memory at what you have it at. This will decouple MCLK and FCLK but because it's such a huge difference the latency penalty won't exist. Basically have fun with free performance. If your PC refuses to post after this clear CMOS with jumpers on your board and don't touch FCLK again unless you are willing to play with VDDG and VSOC.

        • GeorgeS on 06/07/2020 - 18:39

          Definitely 2*16. CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 on the RAM.

          • Void on 06/07/2020 - 19:30

            @GeorgeS: Probably didn't check QVL, nothing you can do about that. I don't solely rely on QVL though as it's quite a limited selection, and also check with other owners. So yeah try manually setting your FCLK (sometimes called Fabric Clock) to 1800 and you will get some performance gains without having to worry about your RAM as it's all on the CPU.

      • mauricem on 30/06/2020 - 21:08

        What settings did you use? eg voltage, timings??

        • GeorgeS on 06/07/2020 - 18:40

          The only setting I changed was tRC to 58.

          Command rate:1
          16-18-18-18-36
          tRC: 58

          Everything else was default/auto.

          • mauricem on 06/07/2020 - 20:24

            @GeorgeS: Thanks, I've got the same system and it's now running fine at 3066. The ddr voltage on auto seemed a bit high so I manually set it to 1.34. I set FCLCK to 1800 and bumped the CPU up to 4000. System feels much snappier now.
            Have yet to try some of Rajeh's suggestions but will do when back home.

  • McOzbargainer on 30/06/2020 - 06:28
    +1

    It's a mediocre deal. If you check pcpartpicker au there is heaps of DDR4 3200 CL16 for a few bucks cheaper. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=16384002&sort…

    • Void on 30/06/2020 - 15:19
      +1

      As to why people think this is a deal I got nothing. Enlighten me if there is something special about it.

      • nick nick on 01/07/2020 - 06:27

        Corsair is a more respected brand, i agree it's nothing special

  • mauricem on 30/06/2020 - 20:05

    I had 2x16gb sticks of this in a R53600 B450 Mortar Max. Couldn't get it to post over 2666. I've ordered a pair of Teamforce 3600 sticks for about the same price. I'll be happy if they do 3200!

    There's a guy who posts on whirlpool who must work retail PC. Says he's seen dozens of rigs with this ram that have had problems with getting near rated speeds on Ryzen

    OT
    I was going to say Id update with the results but unfortunately these deal threads go off faster than fresh fish;)
    Its a pity they cant get migrated to discussion topics!

    • Void on 30/06/2020 - 20:40

      You're running dual rank with 16GB sticks, Ryzen's IMC is weak so it probably suffers. Were you setting XMP or just turning up frequency? Did you use DRAM calculator? If they really don't just crank your FCLK to 1800 for an easy performance gain, make sure to leave the RAM at 2666.

  • mauricem on 30/06/2020 - 21:05

    Tried pretty well everything, XMP, Dram calc, manual, voltage bumps etc etc. I thought 2x16GB was a safer option than 4x8GB?

    I'll try upping the FCLCK but have the other ram on the way. With my luck it will probably be a dud too!

    • Void on 30/06/2020 - 21:36

      They're both dual rank, so either way it's hard on the IMC. Basically past 16GB overclocking becomes more difficult. In your case since you can't get past 2666MT/s on the RAM, you need bare minimum 1466 FCLK to mitigate the latency toll by decoupling. That's really easy on Zen 2, you should be able to hit 1800 FCLK no problem. Anything above 1800 will require you to increase or decrease VDDG on most chips. To make sure the FCLK is stable run Prime95 with Small FFTs while listening to music, if it has crackles or pops you need to increase VDDG. If increasing doesn't help in the slightest or makes the situation worse, you need to decrease like in my case.

  • thewarden on 03/07/2020 - 20:42

    Just received mine and it's showing as Samsung B-die - still trying to get it running stable at anything over 2800 though. Keep getting crashes…

    • Void on 04/07/2020 - 00:55
      +1

      See my top(ish) comment, it isn't B-die. It's Samsung C-die, Corsair and G.Skill got the SPDs wrong.

  • mauricem on 04/07/2020 - 10:11

    I've now got my 2 x 16gb sticks of the above ram running stable at 2933 1.33v with FCLCK at 1800.
    CPU is happy at 4.0 and generally runs at same temp as stock. Hopefully the 3600 ram I've got coming to replace the above will be stable at 3600 which will synch with the FCLCK

    It's never posted at 3200 xmp settings which bumps the ram voltage up to 1.37 or so. One thing to watch out for when the xmp fails to post and after a couple of tries it resets the ram to default frequency 2133 but leaves the voltage at 1.37! This is on a b450 mortar max with latest bios.

    • Void on 04/07/2020 - 17:28

      Umm if you were trying to overclock it as B-die it isn't. It's Samsung C-die, and you can definitely get 3600 on that.

      • mauricem on 04/07/2020 - 20:36

        How can I get 3600 out of it if it wont post at 3200? I'm referring to the ram in the title of this thread. As I mentioned before I've tried settings from Ryzen dram calc but no luck there wont post.

        Ive tried a lot of different things and this seems as good as Ill get out of this RAM which is actually better than it was looking a few days ago when it wouldnt get past 2666. Not sure if the latest BIOS update helped?

        • Void on 04/07/2020 - 20:54

          DRAM calculator could be wrong. You are using Samsung OEM right? If it doesn't work just punch 16-18-18-36 into the primaries (the first 18 is both tRCDRD and tRCDWR), give it 1.35V and see if it works. Maybe increase SOC to 1.1V too. Leave other timings on auto, maybe set tRFC to 550.

          Edit: And you've also tried setting FCLK to 1600 while leaving RAM at stock? To eliminate CPU being the issue.

          Edit 2: Oh no I think it's because you didn't check QVL and they are incompatible.

          To try something: You have dual rank sticks, so make sure to select that in DRAM calculator. Also increase SOC voltage to like 1.15 and VDDP to 1V, dual rank is evil on the IMC.

          • mauricem on 04/07/2020 - 21:19

            @Void: Thanks, I'll definitely try some of those settings.Thought I had checked the QVL but could have missed a character and messed it up.

            Re the FCLCK setting if its stable at 1800 then that means its ok doesnt it? But I have run it at 1600 previously and it was OK

            • Void on 04/07/2020 - 21:31
              +1

              @mauricem: Yeah so infinity fabric is not the issue. Give VDDP and SOC a whirl, try combinations of lowering or increasing them. Sometimes due to localized heat increasing the voltage can make the situation worse. My 3500X couldn't post 1766 FCLK until I lowered my VDDG, in your case it could be UCLK or the memory controller and VDDP + SOC directly relate to that.

              • mauricem on 13/07/2020 - 22:02

                @Void: Just following up on this, I returned the corsair ram and bought 2x16gb of the Teamgroup tforce 3600 for about the same price. The Teamgroup ram is slightly taller and seems to have a more substantial heatsink.

                Worked first go at 3600 via xmp. FCLK is in synch at 1800 so pretty happy with the result as all is stable so far

                Will play around with settings later to see how low I can get the voltage and the latency. Default is CL18

                • Void on 13/07/2020 - 22:28

                  @mauricem: Nice. You could probably get it down to CL17 if it's Samsung C-die, or CL16 if it's Hynix CJR. It should be one of the two given that the timings are probably 18-22-22-42.

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