I want to buy a new car from a dealer this week. No faffing about, just want a stock version of a popular car that's got a driveaway price I'm happy with right now.
What I figure I should be able to do: go to the dealer, see what's in stock, agree on a price, go get a bank cheque, hand it over, read & sign contract, drive away in the new car.
Are there any problems with this?
Oh, I don't need the car. Any bullshit and I just won't bother.
You don't need the car but you are going to buy it? Very confusing
Right.
Almost everything I buy I don't actually need. Got a new pressure cooker recently because it was a bit nicer and it was a bit smaller which is more practical for me. Old one was fine. Didn't need a new one. But I got it.
Sure my car's 15yo and probably should be replaced but I don't need to.
@DonWilson: Unlike most, at least you've figured out life and can discern between need and want
The 'tactic' that has consistently worked for me is to walk in with exactly what you want and exactly how much you are willing to pay and politely and firmly NOT budge. Also keep offering to put it in writing if they want while they do the usual dance between you and the mgr. The hardest part is probably collecting the car on the same day as they need to do pre-delivery etc but possible.
@abuch47: @abuch47
The user's current car isn't broken, therefore it's not avoiding fixing it. It's just an upgrade.
How is that passing the buck?
Needs vs wants 🙂. If you don’t figure out the difference soon; you will be in trouble.
@kaleidoscope: I understand the meaning.
OP seems 'want' to get this done on the same day(quick) but he doesn't need it. This is what confuses me, I need something I will get it ASAP. If I want something I will take my time to get it with the cheapest possible price even if they take some time to deliver.
@SnoozeAndLose: His ‘need’ is not the car, but the result of the task being done within the day.
We’ve all been on similar situations (different context ofcourse).
Still confused?
@kaleidoscope: At the time of my comment 17 hours 42 min ago yes, not any more until OP responded 30 mins later.
I am just explaining to you what my confusion is. Hope I have answered your 'question' of 'my' confusion.
Have you even considered a paint and scratch protection plan?
Very affordable!
Just look at the benefits on this paperwork right here.
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Oh, nice. Guess I'll sign with my pen here:
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Make sure it's pen number 15.
Tinting and rust protection!!!
Worth at least $10,000 for only $2,000!!!!!!!!
Depends what colour you want and if they have it in stock
Is the vehicle you want actually sitting on display at the dealership and available for sale?
I had to wait 3 1/2 weeks from the day I signed the contract until the vehicle I recently purchased arrived at the dealership and was ready to drive away.
It'll take a couple of days for rego and insurance to be arranged and if it's a brand new car a pre-delivery needs to be done.
Allow an average of 1 week from the day you sign until pick up and if it's quicker it's a bonus.
The dealer can do it quicker if you want by essentially loaning you the car. Just watch out for the insurance excess (eg can be $2500).
It was five days in my case, they had to get the car out of the yard first as it was closed in by other cars. Bought on a Saturday, drove it out of the car yard on a Thursday
Did they have to sell the other cars to move them or something? How did it take 5 days to move some cars around?
Dunno but there were a few niggles on it (minor paint jobs) that also needed to be done before it was handed over from memory
Yeah, only considering new vehicles in stock in the yard.
So even for something sitting there it'll still take days/a week for the paperwork? OK then. When I sign the contract are they going to demand a deposit or a finance check or something?
In case it isn't obvious I've only ever bought privately before and you do the checks beforehand pretty quickly and the rego switch can be done after.
Some dealers will ask for a deposit, it depends on the person/dealership you’re working with. When I bought my brand new car from the dealer they didn’t ask for one when I signed the sales contract, and this was for a car that still had to be shipped from the production factory in Europe not one sitting in the lot.
Money only exchanged hands when I paid via bank cheque on the day I picked up the car, and only after I inspected the car, turned the engine on and made sure everything was working fine + checked the car for physical damage/scratches + any missing extras/accessories/upgrades.
After you inspect the car they make you sign a document saying you’ve inspected it and are happy with the condition it’s in.
After that they bring you to see the finance/sales manager who will conclude the sale. This is the part where you pay them for the car in full and you and the manager both sign the final sales contract.
After that they hand over the keys to you and the cars officially yours.
Also the dealer only registered my car with the RTA/RMS on the day I picked up my car. They had one of the admin guys physically go there and collect my license plates. I watched them install it on my car.
Double check that the registration details are correct. You never know they might stuff it up if they’re in a rush.
Don't forget the dash cam at triple retail prices
…and to download MS Paint to your home computing device.
no shame in MS Paint, its part of the SOE at OzBargain
MB just tried to sell me the iRoad x9 for $1695.00.. I told them I found a service centre that does the iRoad x10 for $940 including install and they came back with, we can swap the x9 for x10 as the same cost…
Paperwork (rego etc) usually takes a few days… plus they'll need to do a detail/clean of the vehicle.
plus they'll need to do a detail/clean of the vehicle.
I'd strongly recommend refusing any offer of a dealer "detail", unless you enjoy your shiny new car's paintwork to be covered in swirls. I swear they wash these things with steel-wool.
Sorry, I was only thinking of an interior clean, but yes, dealer details leave a lot to be desired, lol..
When I sign the contract are they going to demand a deposit
A deposit is expected.
It usually isn't much, however insist that it's a refundable deposit if the sale falls through through no fault of your own.
Thanks for the replies so far.
I'm going to shoot for a vehicle with under 20km on the clock. The stock at dealers near me list a few with that but it's probably never updated - is that realistic for this situation?
Is this a really weird joke? Or do you think 20km is the same as 20,000km?
Oh, I thought it was a typo.
Why not consider a demo car?
@[Deactivated]: Youtube tells me you don't save any money and get a vehicle that's been abused by test drivers and dealers. Seems like there's no advantage to it.
@DonWilson: You pay much less for many demos. I'd be happy with a demo. That being said you can get excellent prices on brand new floor stock, but your 1 day demands will count against you. What car are you after?
@DonWilson: Consider an undriven demo of you can find one. It's a loophole dealerships use to boost their sales figures and clear excess stock. However you do lose a month of rego so factor that in.
I purchased a Hyundai undriven demo and it saved 20% on prices I could negotiate at other dealerships.
https://www.caradvice.com.au/717134/big-change-coming-to-dea…
@DonWilson: Go in at the end of the month, some dealerships "register" new demos to get their numbers up. You could potentially score a near-new demo and probably be able to drive it away on the day since it has already been registered (check this with them though, I don't know if this is how it works).
Don't do that this month though, it's EOFY so the dealerships probably have hit their targets.
@Banana: Yep, bought my camry a few years back with 2km on the clock - it hadnt been used for test drives. Once they register them they cant call them new apparently.
Most new cars have the ability for the dealer to "reset" the clock, if the km's are under a certain threshold (it can be as high as 2000km for some makes, I believe), so I wouldn't believe what you see on the odometer.
A week really does sound like a joke. You can call and arrange insurance within an hour. Rego paperwork is minutes.
Confirmation of finance should be the only delay. If I put the car on my credit cards, why should they take so long?
It does sound like bullshit.
I wonder if that dealerboi knows why. How do you summon someone on here?
SPACKBASE SPACKBASE SPACKBASE
'Dr Bombay, come right away'
SPACKBASE SPACKBASE SPACKBASE
You forgot to click your heels.
And to spell his name correctly.
Most dealerships have a 'process' they have/should go through… and maybe only certain people have access to computer systems for rego etc…
That's what we did 3 years ago, dealer had a new car cheapest in Australia (after monitoring carsguide for 2months for our fav cars), we went in, payed deposit with debt card, came back next day with cash.
New car with 50KM on clock.
See, that's what I want to do. And that's what you did - come in and check it out, deposit and contract, come in the next day, pay and drive it away?
You said you wanted to do it all in the same day in your OP. I'm convinced your a bot. Probably for carsales.
-edit- ah crap, personal attack rule. Uh. You're being dumb. Don't be dumb.
@[Deactivated]: That's not a personal attack, that's saying what you said was stupid not that you're stupid. Important difference. "You're a bot" is a personal attack.
-edit- my bad "your a bot".
Same day can be done, but it is very rare..
I suppose the real question is:
If they have a car I want in stock at a price I want and I'm paying cash/bank cheque how do I make it as quick as possible?
Dealers prefer credit.
Assuming you were independently financing, why?
Be early, that gives time for anything to be sorted out. Be upfront with what you are looking for in delivery. If you get extras, then that takes time
I was thinking of asking for floor mats and side window visors to be included, assuming I could pick them up later. That's a no go?
@DonWilson: On first servivmce at 1k, they might be able to get it through service, depends on how busy they are
YouTube tells me lol
You are buying a new car, and you state in another comment that you don't need it?
Why are you throwing your money away? Is this not OzBargain?
It's not a bargain if you save $1k but still spend $20k you don't need to spend.
I've been meaning to buy a new car for a few years but haven't needed to. Old one still does the job. This means it's probably a good idea to. But I don't need to.
Ah, okay, fair enough. That sounds like about the only case where it might be justified.
What are you aiming to get?
Not really looking into getting into a discussion on the car or the price. That's why I left it out.
Just want to know how the procedure goes and how to minimise the time I have to wait for the dealership to do their part.
@DonWilson: That's a really weird thing to say. You're asking advice about buying a car, but aren't asking for the expertise of the group mind here on the car, or the price of the car. You do know this is ozbargains, right? You know that people here can give you decent advice and probably help you get a lower price.
@[Deactivated]: I don't think you can help me get a better price.
I've got some information I want and you can't provide that so why would I think you can help me get better than the prices everyone's getting in the Whirlpool megathread on it?
@[Deactivated]: Because the person asking doesn't seem to know the difference between your and you're or the difference between 20 and 20,000 let alone have knowledge on this subject and has so far said nothing useful. Tell you what - if you can provide me some actual useful information to my question then I'll tell you.
@DonWilson: Obviously I know the difference between your and you're, it was clearly a typo, I make very few spelling and grammatical errors, and I'm very articulate. If you want to dwell on that, go ahead, but your aggression isn't going to get you anywhere here. I'm not sure why you're being so secretive, no one actually gives a shit, it just might be helpful for you. Whirlpool isn't the repository of all knowledge in Australia. There are many car dealers on here, such as Spaceback, who can give you good advice on cars and pricing.
@[Deactivated]: Spell check: It's "..suppository of all knowledge (and wisdom)". We must remember Tony Abbott's contribution to our great collective suppository. ;-)
I'm not sure why you're being so secretive
That’s a bit rich coming from you. Plenty of opinion offered (I’m reluctant to use the word advice), very little response to direct questions about your vehicle selection.
This is OzBargain, where people are trying to find bargains and deals on things they want to buy, the purpose is to find good deals and to save money on things, not just to buy necessities and be frugal. I upgraded my TV through an OzBargain deal, absolutely did not need to by a new TV, but still saved a good chunk of money on it. Or am i not doing OzBargain properly? Should i just be buying toilet paper and Cast Iron Skillets?
No but it's a little ridiculous to buy something extremely expensive when a) you don't need it and b) there are much cheaper options.
Hardy ridiculous to buy a new car, people do it every day. Even if that is your opinion i don't recall him asking for advice or justification on how to spend his hard earned money, but for advice on how to go about purchasing a new car and driving away with it that day, which by your sentiment you have absolutely no experience or advice on, so why bother replying at all?
@ColstonAUS: Because I had an opinion I wanted to share? Same reason you're replying here despite me not asking for advice or justification on my opinion. Ease up turbo.
If you wait till you need a car to buy one, you're not going to find a bargain..
Bring lube
who cares as long as you get the car. Buy the car in full tomorrow and you're on your way.
Don’t listen to people in here about not getting a deal. It’s a personal thing, you pay what you’re happy to pay. It’s your money, not theirs.
That being said, it’s easy to buy the car you want on the day. Do a few phone calls the day before or first thing in the morning to see what stock they have to make sure you can get what you want. Make sure you go in early to give them plenty of time. And do the deal first, get the price sorted and then hit them with the delivery time and see if it’s doable.
Low km “demo” (the 20km ones, I know the difference.) cars are the best to aim at as they have already been registered and had all the pre-delivery work done to them, so they are easily ready. A new new car will have to go through pre-delivery and may not even be on site and stored in an off site location.
The other thing is, buy it as bare bones as you can. If you start making additions, such as bull bar/tint/tow hitch/etc, this will make it take a lot more time and won’t be ready on the day, and you will almost always certainly get a better deal for these through places other than the dealership.
The other thing you will have to do is sign a cooling off a waiver if your state has that in place. Not a big issues if you want the car that day anyway.
The only hindering thing will be if you try to go in at 3pm and want it by 5…
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Thanks mate. That guy bought a vehicle they pre-ordered and probably had the price raised between pre-order and delivery many months later? Bloody hell.
Sounds good. Same day isn't essential for me but it's a big preference. Next day will do. Nice to know both are possible - that's why I asked, I didn't know.
Pre-registered just means they have regular plates already, yeah?
I don't really know the difference between demo and new. Never dealt with either before. I'd like to know more on that. Are you implying a car on the lot with regular plates is always a demo and new needs to be ordered and delivered? Damn.
Demo cars will be registered. Some will come with standard plates, some will come with slimline plates. Doesn’t really matter, if you don’t like what it has on it, you just visit your states local registration office and get the plates changed for what you like.
Demo vehicles are just that, used for demonstration purposes. The ones with 10~20km on them are usually done that way because there is a manufacturer’s push to inflate sales figures for that month, so they give dealers a bonus and tell them to register a heap of vehicle. Usually a runout model clearance type of arrangement.
And no. What plates fitted to a vehicle do not denote anything other than that car is registered. The difference between a new and a demo is a new car is a new car, a demo is a vehicle used by the dealership to show people over a vehicle without getting new ones out of stock every time. A demo is like a sample car to show customers and let them test drive it. If it’s a demo with really really low km (10~20km) it’s will be as above, a new car that is registered to boost sales figures.
And no, new cars can be in stock as well. A dealer will keep some models in stock, but not one of everything. The problem is, a dealer in the city won’t have the space to store 200 cars, so they are often kept off site somewhere it is cheaper to store them, so it may take a day to get your car sorted, picked up and moved from storage to the dealership.
Very helpful. Thankyou.
Or for lunch runs for staff! (demo kms)
Undriven or low km demo's often won't have plates on them as it takes time to put them on and makes the yard looks neater.
My colleague wanted a Jeep Cherokee one morning and the dealer drove and dropped off the new car to work later that afternoon with the paperwork.
It's possible but don't have high expectations. I believe the cars they have in-stock are located in a warehouse somewhere.
Story would be more believable if you didn't state someone wanted a Jeep Cherokee.
Yes, but believable in that the Jeep dealer was so happy to make a sale they personally delivered it the same day…
DON'T HOLD BACK!
Didn’t read all prior comments but have you considered ringing a few (other) dealers to canvas your options? Maybe some can and will do it, maybe others won’t, but I think you’d get a good idea of feasibility and requirements for what you want.
If you're paying in full, and want the car on the day; then why not consider finding a privately owned current model with minimal KM, and plenty of factory warranty left on it?
You'll be able to knock off a decent amount from the initial depreciation hit, and be more than likely able to drive it away the same day. The incentive to buy it the same day would not be lost on the seller either (negotiate a little more off).
Make sure you don’t signal to the dealership you’re desperate as you could end up paying a higher price.