"UniFi Dream Machine (UDM) is the easiest way to introduce UniFi to homes and businesses. The UDM includes everything you need for a small-scale wired or Wi-Fi network. It's easy to use and still offers all the benefits of UniFi for homes and businesses."
Not the cheapest its been but a good price none-the-less, I just purchased one for $579 from Wireless 1 the other day. Currently not in stock, ETA is 17/07.
I hope not! I bought this to replace my 68u..
I'm not really up on what this is good for. In my current setup I have a lot of devices on the network wifi and wired, with a fair whack of port forwarding and firewall setup (nas, nvr, docker containers, plex, resberry pihole etc). My current NBN router is handling all of this OK. But I have through testing found I get a sync / speed boost with anther router that does not offer the same level of control (almost a 15% boots on weak FTN connection). I could set up the better NBN router and transparently connect the current one as the gateway device .. but I figure if I'm running two devices maybe I should be getting a better level of device for that gateway for performance / features … such as this sort of thing? I was kinda hoping hoping the next upgrade would be a wifi 6 step up for a bit of future proofing though.
Thanks but thats another whack of $ and another device (my base power cost form too many devices is already high) from what little I know and I guess the point of the device here is its one package multiple services.
As far as I know, the dream machine was a trial product, the alien is the final release that also includes mesh. You might need to look into it if interested.
@onlinepred: Unifi and Amplifi are two very different branches of Ubiquity and the two devices are not related to one another. The Dream Machine and Dream Machine Pro are out of testing, Unifi test products via early release and then release more broadly once they have tested enough. The Amplifi is more for the consumer/power users while the Unifi are aimed at small business and prosumer.
@onlinepred: The UDM is Ubiquitis first product in a similar form factor but the Alien is not the final release of the UDM. Mesh on UniFi products is called wireless uplink.
The Alien has not been released locally, the software is different and doesn't run on UniFi OS like the UDM. About the most you can do with AmpliFi products is port forward, DHCP server and set static IPs. It's good for those who want something that works well and don't want to play with much networking settings. For the full package UniFi is the way to go.
@onlinepred: The UDM is not a trial product, as with most Ubiquiti products, it was initially available in early access but has since been in general release for many months.
The AmpliFi Alien is not the “final release” of the UDM. UniFi and AmpliFi are entirely different product lines.
AmpliFi is more consumer oriented. You plug it in and turn it on. There’s no learning curve. Anyone could use it. UniFi is closer to an enterprise grade product line with a lot more capabilities (think UniFi controller) but requires a bit of networking knowledge or willingness to learn in order to use it most effectively.
It doesn’t make much sense to say the Alien “also includes mesh” because you can easily do wireless mesh with the UDM (or any UniFi APs) as well. I’d assume that for most UniFi users its more a case of why would you want too?
If you’re used to a UniFi network, wireless mesh would likely be an unacceptable downgrade. WiFi is half duplex so it will never compare to a proper wired backhaul. I’d assume most UniFi users are using ethernet. UniFi networks are designed to easily scale and most users have multiple APs. With wireless mesh you lose half the bandwidth with each hop.
This is why the Alien has 802.11ax. Ubiquiti expects most people will run the Alien in a mesh setup rather than connecting the router and AP via ethernet, so even if they don’t have any 802.11ax clients yet, there’s still an immediate benefit to including 802.11ax, because all that extra bandwidth between the router and the AP will help to mitigate the performance losses of wireless mesh.
I would stay away from unifi routing. It is not as intuitive as Asus stuff, and can lack features. I was running an all unifi network, but the USG was awful so I swapped back to the Asus rt-68u as a router. I still run the unfi wireless stuff which is good.
I would be very careful about getting a UDM unless you really know what you are doing. Their wireless stuff is fine though.
Yeah there is a learning curve with Ubiquiti. The UDM has an easy mode for setup, you don't need to touch the advanced menus and the UDM outperforms the USG any day of the week especially with IDS/IPS enabled. Approx IDS/IPS enabled on the USG 85Mbps and UDM 850Mbps and turning it off the UDM 940Mbps.
people like the throughput numbers. For most aussies they mean nothing. I can't get faster than 70/10. My rt-68u does better than the USG anyway.
USG cannot do an accurate check of downloads due to structural issues with software and hardware. So if your internet is slow, netflix laggy, and you try to identify whether it is nbn or someone hogging bandwidth in your house, you can't. Basic troubleshooting functionality. It says it can and they have a page in their UI that seems to indicate usage on a per device basis, but it doesn't reflect what it actually happening. They can't/won't "fix" it as in their eyes it is not a security feature. Really? Not being able to identify whether a device is downloading from the net when you don't want it to?Unifi has a pretty unified page showing lots of pretty routing data, none of which I need, as it is all available in other ways.
So if finding who is hogging bandwidth is important, or devices downloading when you don't want them to (looking at you win 10 updates), stay away from unifi (edgerouters are apparently fine). Asus is much better for that.
Unifi routing is strange. Probably fine if you never want basic set and forget features, or if you are network savvy enough to be happy with command line and want IPS. In between that, better off with good consumer gear.
For FTTN consider the USG or wait a few months for the new UXG and wifi 6 access points.
I can’t seem to checkout. Says OOS.
I called them. Pick up only from either Sunshine or Bendigo.
Back to $599 now
I'm seeing $599 expired already?
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edit: Ignore….