I found this cheapest one ($927 + Shipping) and there are other sellers below.
$959 + Shipping @mwave (in stock)
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/synology-diskstation-ds920-…
$959 + Shipping @cplonline (pre-order)
https://cplonline.com.au/nas/synology/synology-ds920-disksta…
$1093 + Shipping @centrecom (pre-order)
https://www.centrecom.com.au/synology-diskstation-ds920-4-ba…
I think I’ll wait for a good deal for 720+ instead. Anyone got comments on the differences?
720 only has 2 bays. I don't see the point in 2 bay nas personally
Maybe nosrad meant the 420+ which also has 4 bays?
Everyone have different needs. Now you can get some very large drives too so 2 bay might be good for some people.
4 bay is still a better option (in my personal opinion/experience) assuming one requires redundancy and to grow. 2 bay limits things a lot. I have several of both.
For redundancy, a 2 Bay will lose one of it's x2 drives. With 4 bay one only loses x1 of the 4 drives(may vary on chosen NAS or redundancy required).
Expansion: Four bay Nas's are easier to expand i.e. slowly replace out the drives one by one with larger ones (as one can afford) without downtime. Two bay NAS will require replacing both to gain any extra space. If redundancy is not important then above doesn't count as much.
If buying your first NAS and can afford it, a 4 Bay gives you the best of all world's as you can still just add 2 drives if that's all that is required (for now).
@Borg: 100% agree with you. My friend was trying to buy a 718+ but I convinced her to get a 918+. The price isn't that much cheaper for 718+ either, I think the price difference between the two machines were around $100.
@yfxsmike: Yeah I was trying trying trying to convince my friend to get 4 bay instead of 2 bay, he understood the benefit but got a 2 bay anyway thinking it would be fine. Then not even 6 months later he's already regretting it cos he's out of room and has to either get a 4 bay or buy 2 much bigger drives.
@Larwood: With synology, you get the benifit of sure thair own raid system. If you have 2 of 4TB in two-bay and another 2 of 8TB in other bays, you can actually utilize all of them, hence you don't have to throw away the original volume hard drives. These drives don't have good value second hand.
Thank you all for the advice. I am looking at 720+ because I already have 2x 12Tb Hard drives, and that's plenty for me for home use. I am more concerned regarding any differences other than 4 bay v.s. 2 bay.
Buy this, or buy the DS918+ for $683?
I've had a 918+ running for nearly a year. 4k playback, multiple concurrent 1080p transcodes, easy to use. It's been flawless.
Yep my 918+ have been rock solid for over 2 years now.
did you have to add an extra ram to it? I had issues playing 4k.. bit of slow
I have 4GB ram model and no issue playing 4k video. Instead of RAM have you thought of using NVME flash drive.
For the price, I'd get 918+
Plenty of comparison videos for these two models on YouTube. Goto search. I did one yesterday, but neither offered me any advantage over my current setup. That said the DS918+ is a good deal for what it offers.
where u see 918 for 683?
Was looking to by 918+ and connect my 8 cameras to it but would mean having to buy licences for it which would work out expensive. Now looking at the new 4-Bay Qnap TS-453D due out any time soon as that comes with 8 licenses already.
Was in a similar position to you and figured instead of paying license fees I may as well get a dedicated NVR (already had the NAS) benefit also was I could go PoE with the whole camera setup and have the NVR in another location For the NAS - near a TV for easy viewing (not that the mobile app isn’t very convienient). Just some food for thought for you.
It can also depends on POE camera. If POE camera have FTP feature, you can turn Synology NAS to FTP server and use any number of cameras without license. I have 4 POE cameras and instead of purchasing additional 2 licenses from Synology, I used it as FTP server.
Man these things are an absolute ripoff, the microservers, which had more functionality, and pretty much used the same amount of power, where a few hundred bux. heaps more upgradable, still four bays, and pretty much limitlessly customisation. and if you wanted plan and simple, just install one of the many flavours of Linux (something like freeNAS is stupid simple) and simple to install additional features like Plex etc.
just a shame the gen10 microserver is stupid expensive, and weak! … hp figured out they could make way more money!
my gen 8 still runs strong, runs multiple game servers, a web server, a mail server + Plex server… all without missing a beat. (runs at least 8 VMs) (let alone the 20TB of storage.)
I would happily get another MicroServer to replace my broken one. However, the prices these days are just ridiculous (even for second/third hand ones) - making the Synology and QNAP much more attractive.
Any idea why the prices have sky rocketed?
+1, but yeah i just mean the price of tech usually goes down, not triple,
could get the microservers for ~300 bux, and the 8 bay nas servers for under a K, and that was five years ago! now a four bay nas for 900 is good value!?
so my rip off comment was in that regards, no where near negging this deal.
i mean where not talking about buying a tmodel back in the day for hundreds of dollars now vs a new car for 30K these days, were talking 5years, so inflation doesn't come into it that much.
benefit of HP Microserver G8 over NAS?
The below list very much depending on which NAS, but:
1 Price.
2 CPU grunt. ( I got a 1270 second hand for mine)
3 Ability to upgrade with off the shelf components.
4 PCI-e slot
5 ILO
6 Available OS to upgrade to/use.
7 Available software.
8 Ability to run a hypervisor and run multiple servers
9 Not voiding the warranty by doing any of the above things.
10 multiple network ports (makes it great for one of the VMs to be a firewall, without the need to VLAN)
things going for the NAS:
Plug it in and its ready to go
Maybe ease of use if your a numpty and cant plug a usb stick in and click next/next/next, done?
but yeah, gen 8 microservers just aren't really available any more.
Well many of the NAS can also run hypervisors so thats a moot point. NASes have multiple network ports too.
Also I'm a systems engineer and the laast thing I want to do is to tinker around with another friggen server after a day at work.
The NAS OS's are maintained and updated so can't see why you think thats a benefit for a microserver.
Not sure many would find an iLO useful at home. I never have ever thought damn I wish I had an iLO on anything at home.
Available software. NAS OS is linux. Same software availability as fMicroserver. Also probably better availability, because all the apps with associated phone apps etc all work OOB. No messing around, which to be honest is great for most people.
Warranty is also moot point. Everything you can do to a microserver you can do to a NAS and not void the warranty.
Calling people a numpty for choosing a NAS makes you look bad IMO, shows how little you know about NASes. I messed around with a microserver for years. Then one day I got my hands on a 2 bay Synology NAS. I kicked myself when I realised how much better the whole experience was and how little maintenance i needed to do on the thing compared to the microserver that had an issue every 6 months or so. My current 214+ Synology has been running smoothly for 6 years. Other than updating OS and apps and upgrading to bigger disks, I rarely have to touch the thing. Can't say the same about any of the servers I've had.
1) first and foremost, hence the very first line being:
"The below list very much depending on which NAS, but:"
2) hypervisors - Type-1?
3) "Warranty is also moot point." - so you can open the NAS, change CPU/RAM over, install additional PCIe cards?
4) Numpty if you cant plug a USB drive in and install an OS… specially some of the dedicated OS specially designed to do exactly this. Not in regards to ease of use which was covered in the line above. i take it this does not apply to you given you sound like you can plug a USB stick in and install an OS. (heck even most of the people who have never done it before could figure it out)
IE the first line in regards to "things going for the nas", was to cover what your talking about, RE just cant be assed…(you just want to plug it in and its ready to go - which i get, and accounted for)
different folks different strokes, I've worked in IT for almost 20 years, including as a senior consultant at a number of companies, happy to come home to my server - as 99% of the time i dont touch it, have only had to tweak it every couple of years (when the mail server is updated and doesn't support pgsql natively, and once when i ran out of space.) no where near every six month, only thing i've done recently is load it up with even more VMs.
How do you go about setting up your NAS as a mail server/(iis) web server? (serious question, i know they are fairly customisation - just not sure if the more advanced ones allow full customisation at the OS level. - in which case it is pretty much a PC/server.)
It's on..Great! Now , any chance of a reduced/sale on 918+ (It will do more than enough for my need)
You can get it for AUD679.20 from shoppingexpress if you are an eBay Plus member.
I am currently on the fence as I am waiting for QNAP TS-253D to replace my broken Microserver.
Edit: Don't worry about shoppingexpress as it just bumped the RRP by $40!
Noone in Brisbane seems to have this for sale yet? seems that only Vic and NSW has it
Why don't you build a computer with better setup and more flexible choice? even with cheaper price and up-gradable in future?
FYI the DS920+ has now gone up on Amazon US for preorder at $549(US), so unless they have completely changed the AU pricing this generation I would expect the prices here to drop pretty soon to closer to the $800 mark. Historically speaking our Synology prices have tended to be better or at least on par with US prices.
US$549 is roughly AU$800. So Around $880 incl. GST?
Sure, but what i'm saying is traditionally we actually get better prices than they do, e.g. look at the price of the DS918+ on Amazon US over the years: https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B075N1Z9LT?context=searc…, and compare those to how much we usually pay for the DS918+ here. So unless they've vastly changed the AU pricing for this new x20 series it should be $800 or under.
I see your point now. So hopefully we can get our hands on some DS920+ at similar price points as DS918+.
DS918+ is running rock solid and this price doesn't look tempting at all.
It's $994 + Shipping now.
Are there any good deals on the DS918+ or DS418 Play? Hoping to grab a EOFY bargain.
No idea, but do let us know what you find once "you" are done looking around :-)
bought 918+ 6 months back. i will wait for couple of years, this way ds920 will also go for time test :)