Flying to USA January 2021

LEverybodyneedsto on 01/06/2020 - 15:14

Have been looking online for airfares to USA & there are some very very cheap fares.

Now that tourism restart taskforce says July 1 for flights to New Zealand & Sept 10 for most of rest, I expect airfares will now increase.

Saw $799 return to la or San Francisco from Sydney Melbourne Brisbane leaving early January. Now cheapest direct flights I can see are $999 return for adults.

Same time this year fares were mostly around $2000 to $2500 or even more.

Have many people booked yet for school holidays in January ?

Was also looking at flying to Cairns from Brisbane later this month or July but although it seems plenty of cheap or frequent flyer seats, many hotels at places like palm cove have jacked their prices a lot.

Anyone else notice this ?

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Comments

                        • Everybodyneedsto on 08/06/2020 - 12:31
                          -1

                          @try2bhelpful: Ok think this is a windup but will respond again.

                          There are 538 electoral college votes in USA election.

                          So 270 needed to win.

                          Trump got 304 & poor old Hilary only got 227. A resounding victory for Trump.

                          Hilary got roughly 66 million votes & Trump 63 million, but just like in Australia, you can win many seats by huge margin & lose a few more by narrow margin & lose the election.

                          As soon as pandemic declared no longer an event, plenty of insurance options.

                          The insurance companies just have to work out the details

                          • try2bhelpful on 08/06/2020 - 16:38

                            @Everybodyneedsto: The issue is still that he didn’t get as many votes as Hillary and he didn’t get anywhere near a majority of the people of America. Like our system the system in America is not representative because one person’s vote doesn’t have the same weight as someone else’s. As I have, also, indicated before the guy represents the noisy minority not the silent majority.

                            As I have indicated my warning is that you may not be able to get insurance; if you are willing to take that risk you are open to take it. However, if you cannot be covered for full health insurance for the USA then I would avoid going there. We don’t know the Pandemic is over. We will have to see what the state of the world is come time for you to travel.

                            Your choice but, also, your risk.

                            • Everybodyneedsto on 09/06/2020 - 11:01

                              @try2bhelpful: You still don't get it. I'll explain again.

                              It's not about getting most votes to win.

                              So you don't waste money in states you are never going to win.

                              You could say the same about our senate.

                              Think almost all borders will open possibly sooner than even the tourism restart taskforce has stated but we'll have to wait another few weeks.

                              Insurance will be easy. Insurance companies cover the flu which is very deadly.

                              • try2bhelpful on 09/06/2020 - 13:48

                                @Everybodyneedsto: No, you don’t get; it I fully understand the system, he just didn’t get a majority of the votes. Simple. I’m not sure how many ways I can say that? The system is, fundamentally broken because some people’s votes are worth less than others. Ours is broken too because too many micro parties get representatives with a minuscule primary vote.

                                The borders within Australia may well be open soon but it will be interesting to see when the borders are opened to overseas. Qantas and Jetstar have just shutdown international flights, apart from NZ, until at least the end of July and flight to NZ is shutdown until the end of June. Most insurance schemes have a “pandemic not covered” clause so COVID would either not be considered a Pandemic by then or the clause would need to be altered. As I keep saying, your risk, your choice but I wouldn’t bet on insurance being available by then. Your money, Ralph and you, apparently, are willing to take the risk so I am just warning others.

                                • Everybodyneedsto on 09/06/2020 - 13:53

                                  @try2bhelpful: Ok so you don't like Trump & you keep banging on about some notion of popular vote which is totally meaningless.

                                  • try2bhelpful on 09/06/2020 - 14:14

                                    @Everybodyneedsto: All I’m pointing out is Trump doesn’t represent the majority of voters. That isn’t meaningless, it is just the truth.

                                    • Everybodyneedsto on 09/06/2020 - 16:05

                                      @try2bhelpful: Yes but he easily won the election. If election is about majority of voters he would have spent more in states that he didn't win.

                                      Anyway, even looks like Qld border is opening soon after protest debacle on weekend.

                                      Might start a new post as international borders open to everyone.

                                      • try2bhelpful on 09/06/2020 - 17:35

                                        @Everybodyneedsto: All “winning the election” shows is the system is, fundamentally, flawed; because, and I keep saying this, he got less votes. You can’t assume he would’ve got more votes by spending more money; all we can say is he got less votes and still got handed the job.

                                        Go ahead and look in your crystal ball as to see when the international borders will open, and insurance will be available, because that is something a lot of us would like solid information on. Not sure you are going to get that from the people here, but it is a lively topic to discuss.

                                        • Everybodyneedsto on 09/06/2020 - 20:46

                                          @try2bhelpful: Ah no. You don't get it still. If you spend very little in one state you're never going to win you will get less votes than if you spend a lot.advertising is very expensive.

                                          • try2bhelpful on 09/06/2020 - 23:47

                                            @Everybodyneedsto: I absolutely get what you are trying to imply. He didn’t get a majority and there is no proof that more money would’ve bought him one. You just can’t admit that Trump didn’t get the majority of the vote.

                                            • Everybodyneedsto on 10/06/2020 - 00:30

                                              @try2bhelpful: He didn't need to win anything but majority of electoral colleges. He was smart where spent money. Democrats were dumb.

                                              • try2bhelpful on 10/06/2020 - 18:32

                                                @Everybodyneedsto: He didn’t get majority of voters, that is the actual fact. The real dumb ones are the people who voted for him because he is the worst President America has had.

                                                • Everybodyneedsto on 10/06/2020 - 23:01

                                                  @try2bhelpful: Ok now I get where you're coming from, so you hate him like Hilary supporters, many of whom still can't accept that Trump slaughtered Hilary.

                                                  • try2bhelpful on 11/06/2020 - 11:24

                                                    @Everybodyneedsto: You, just, can’t understand what a majority is. Also, you appear to go on the attack when the same “insult” is reflected back on you. Hmm, sounds just like the way Trump reacts to even the mildest of comments on his actions. “Slaughter” really when he got less votes? An aggressive over the top comment.

                                                    • Everybodyneedsto on 11/06/2020 - 13:32

                                                      @try2bhelpful: Yes Trump easily won majority of states which is all he had to do.

                                                      With the left protests, they probably don't even realise they are just giving Trump more votes, but election long way away.

                                                      This is going nowhere. Let's get back on topic.

                                                      • try2bhelpful on 11/06/2020 - 17:24

                                                        @Everybodyneedsto: Trump still didn’t win a majority of the votes. We shall see come November, shall we? That also goes with your travel plans. If the American political situation gets very volatile then it might not be a good time to travel.

                                                        • Everybodyneedsto on 11/06/2020 - 19:48

                                                          @try2bhelpful: Why would it get volatile. It now looks like Trump is going to win more easily than last time & especially against dodgy democrat

                                                          • try2bhelpful on 11/06/2020 - 20:01

                                                            @Everybodyneedsto: Yeah, we shall see about that. It is a long time until November and, given Trump’s record, why should being dodgy be any impediment to being elected. Seems you agree the ones who will cause a fuss will be Trump’s supporters if he is defeated.

                                                            • Everybodyneedsto on 12/06/2020 - 16:29
                                                              -1

                                                              @try2bhelpful: Yeah but Biden family is even dodgier.

                                                              You'd think the dumocrats could find a decent candidate in whole of USA.

                                                              At it stands right now Trump will win easily.

                                                              He needs protests by dodgy left to continue to election.

                                                              He keeps sucker punching them & they fall into trap everytime

                                                              • try2bhelpful on 12/06/2020 - 17:25

                                                                @Everybodyneedsto: Whatever, mate. If you think Trump is a good leader then you have got completely different standards as to what constitutes good leadership. I think the idea of a good leader is to work for the benefit of society and to resolve issues in a manner that is respectful and bringing groups together. Trump has done nothing but be, gratuitously insulting and divisive from the getgo. You might to look up the extensive websites detailing Trumps dodgy business deals, his lies, his abusive comments, his dumb ideas. You think this is “cleverness” but it just isn’t. The problem is his followers think he is clever, but America will pay for his style of leadership, in the long run. History if full of people like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. The thrive, for a while, but history normally puts them in their place. Trump’s legacy will be 100,000 plus Americans dead from COVID-19 and his complete indifference to the death toll. If Trump wins the next election then America truly deserves him.

                                                                There is absolutely nothing that you can raise on Biden that can’t be topped by something that Trump has done. You just need to stop reading the rightwing websites and go to the fact checking sites.

                                                                • Everybodyneedsto on 13/06/2020 - 15:24

                                                                  @try2bhelpful: Trump will simple win if a few people keep up the violent protests. Roughly 1/30 of 1 percent are protesting. Most of the other 99.97 percent of population want these type of protests & vandalism to stop.

                                                                  • try2bhelpful on 13/06/2020 - 16:44

                                                                    @Everybodyneedsto: Would really love you justifying these figures of yours. There are a fair few people who want the reason for the protests to stop and who aren’t happy with Trumps handling of either the protests or COVID; the violent parts of the protest are already tapering off and the military have said they won’t go in. Trump’s is playing more and more to his right wing base which is more and more the smaller proportion of the population. Frankly it wouldn’t surprise me if Trump got back in but it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t. America has a higher level of tolerance to violent protest, it seems to be their default.

  • Everybodyneedsto on 09/06/2020 - 14:01

    Similar deals to USA now on other websites not the agent I booked through.

    Got email from www.flytousa.com.au

    Contacted them & asked where they got my email address from. They have it from previous business had booked trips with.

    Anyway, very similar deal to what I've booked.

    They said they are very busy with enquiries & actual bookings.

    It seems after the weekend protests many might be thinking borders will be coming down everywhere. Speculating that corona panic might be over.

  • Frayin on 10/06/2020 - 00:58

    I sincerely hope they allow you to travel to the US.

    • Everybodyneedsto on 10/06/2020 - 09:30

      Thanks but not the slightest bit concerned.

      After the weekend protests, it now seems everything will open much much sooner than originally speculated based on very poor modelling.

  • [Deactivated] on 11/06/2020 - 17:32

    Op, you do whatever you want to do. That's your prerogative. But please, if things do not go as planned, do not start a FundMe campaign for us to either help recoup your costs or help bring you back home.

    • Everybodyneedsto on 11/06/2020 - 19:42

      The USA is opening up now. NYC wants & needs tourist s. Stop listening to beat up stories in media. If no news, they simply make it up. Nothing new. The silly thing is why some people believe what's on tv.

      • [Deactivated] on 11/06/2020 - 19:43

        Just promise, no GoFundMe ;)

      • TEER3X on 13/06/2020 - 15:32

        Slim chance you'll be allowed out of Australia by then, but good luck

        • Everybodyneedsto on 13/06/2020 - 16:18

          Looks like September for unrestricted flights to everywhere

          • TEER3X on 14/06/2020 - 10:24
            +1

            @Everybodyneedsto: Where did you read this? I'd like to keep myself constantly updated as I'm hoping for flights in the next few months.

            • Everybodyneedsto on 14/06/2020 - 11:37

              @TEER3X: Tourism restart taskforce was aiming for September 10. Now pushed back a week for some reason.

  • Everybodyneedsto on 17/06/2020 - 07:52

    Putting air travel to USA into perspective, the poms are trying to entice US tourists in September 2020 or earlier. As of today, they still have quarantine rules but not bothering to enforce them.

    See other post.

    • GG57 on 18/06/2020 - 11:09

      Your other post was quoting a travel industry site, with a commentary from a travel professional, in which he was suggesting the UK should target certain states of the USA for tourists.
      There was nothing factual in that post that supported your comments.

  • try2bhelpful on 17/06/2020 - 08:14

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/she-survived-coro…

    For anyone who might consider travelling in the USA without insurance, or insurance that might exclude certain events.

    • Everybodyneedsto on 17/06/2020 - 08:47

      And next week or week after that or as soon as govt removes any restrictions on international travel, there will be 100 or more travel insurance products to choose from that covers everything. So it might be 5% more ?

      Who cares about a possible small price increase?

      Then again, with recession, insurance might even get cheaper as insurers fight for market share.

      • try2bhelpful on 17/06/2020 - 14:05

        I’m just giving people the heads up to ensure they are covered. Or, what might happen, is the second wave comes through and everything shuts down again. I do admire your optimism though.

      • GG57 on 18/06/2020 - 11:15
        +1

        I recommend that you read this article:
        https://www.traveller.com.au/australias-borders-wont-reopen-…
        It quotes the federal tourism minister; no firm dates planned as yet, with next year the earliest (depending on how the virus is managed here and in individual overseas countries)

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