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Kogan Rear Bike HD Camera with Light $29 (Was $129) + Delivery/Free with Kogan First @ Kogan

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I have got this one on a newsletter from Kogan, not sure if this is a price error.

I haven't got myself one so can't comment on the quality. This looks like a cheap knockoff of the popular bike camera Cycliq Fly 6. Price seems pretty cheap either way.

Engineered for cyclists, this rear bike camera replaces your rear light to increase your visibility on the road and records what happens behind you in real-time for peace of mind.

1080p Full HD video and 12MP photos
Doubles as a rear light with 6 settings
120° Field of view
1800mAh Battery life for up to 6 hours
Auto-looping and emergency video auto-lock
IP66 Waterproof rating
Supports Micro SD Card up to 128GB*
Micro SD card not included
Built to auto-lock the footage either side of an incident, the Kogan Rear Bike HD Camera with Light helps safety take the front seat so you’re protected in case of accidents or disputes.

Footage as smooth as fresh tarmac

Shoot solid Full HD footage no matter what the conditions when securely mounted to your bike with 1080p resolution, a wide 120° field of view and auto-looping so you never run out of memory space on your Micro SD Card.

Be seen

Doubling as a rear light, you can choose from six settings, including flash, pulse and solid modes with three brightness levels to ensure you’re seen on the roads.

Power through

Smash up to six hours of continuous recording on the camera-only mode and brave the wet with a waterproof rating of IP-66 to keep out dust, dirt and moisture.

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    • +19

      I use a Cycliq Fly 12 to record my ride for safety reasons. I have taken the footage of close passing and abusive drivers to cops a several times.

      • +12

        I think datascientist1 is being a clown.

        Just neg then ignore them

        • +6

          A tad harsh. A reasonable question I would have thought, and a good answer from dealspider.

      • +1

        As I driver, I can just encourage to keep doing that.

        I've seen too many idiots behind the wheel making unsafe passes, or being cranky when I slow down until I can make a safe pass around cyclists.

      • The close passing footage you take to the cops, have those drivers slowed and tried to be careful but are obviously unable to do 1.5m because the road is too narrow to otherwise pass? I'm not asking what the law says but asking what you report.

        • +7

          I don't report all close passings. Some drivers intentionally go pass very close and verbally abuse you. I took those footage to cops. The cops got the drivers to report to the police station and issued a fine (and demerit points).

          If they are not intentional I would ask the cops to let the drivers know that it is dangerous to pass a cyclist very close. I think not all drivers are aware of the danger. Only a few morons do it purposely.

        • the law doesn't state the speed of the driver. the MINIMUM distance required is based on the speed limit. if however I can see a driver has slowed and waited and they passed a little bit close, i'll ignore.

          • -1

            @jasonc: Ok sounds fine. If a cyclist reported me for driving too close when i think it should be ignored, id write to my local member to make representations for a law change. I think the laws are there to inform behaviour, but I imagine if cops have no discretion based on minimum distances, then laws should take account of cyclist reporting and cameras. Are cyclists registered yet with the rms?

            • @grasstown:

              If a cyclist reported me for driving too close when i think it should be ignored

              Naturally, this would be contextual. Passing a cyclist at 20km/h with 1m distance is far different from passing a cyclist at 70km/h with 1m distance.
              That's possibly why speed is not mentioned in the law, and has been made simple, so drivers are not trying to remember calculation tables in their head whilst passing other road users.

              Ironically, there seems to be minimal distance (and courtesy) by some cyclists when they rocket past pedestrians on the foot path; a medium that they legally have to give way on.

              • @Magpye: Yes I used to ride on the nature strip. I still see some kids doing the same, but heaps of food deliverers wizz past and ring the bell.

                There are bikes on the road that can definitely ride closer to the left than they do.

      • +1

        You only need one idiot failing to stop behind you as they were busy on the phone while you are waiting at the traffic lights.

      • When I ride bike on the road the drivers passing me shouted and whistled at me many times because my long hair. They thought I am woman bike rider. By that I nearly fell down in front of the path of following vehicles. Now I stopped pushing bikes. I wanted this product but it is expired already. I will see eBay for similar products. This is a must-have item for bikers.

    • Are you doing justice to your name @DataScientist1 by asking this silly question? or you just wanted to get trolled? Or probably you have never rode a bike on road sharing with cars.

      If I have money I will install as many camera's to cover 360 degree view, for my own safety.

  • anyone used this as a dashcam?

    • +1

      Just read manual (from Kogan website). Looks like you can record without having the lights on. So maybe.

    • +2

      for a car, you want something that starts recording automatically when power is on.

  • +7

    Seems massively overpriced at 129 when the Aldi Camera is around $39 and probably the same quality….which doesn't seem to be great.

    • +3

      Do you have specs of the camera or are you guessing it's the same quality

      • +5

        No way would I base my opinion on facts haha. Just guessing. both are 1080P cameras and look pretty similar in general.

        I mean at the end of the day, Cycliq is probably the "big name" in terms of rear light cameras and even they have a bunch of documented issues from broken mounts to data corruption etc. So I cant imagine what a cheaper alternative is like.

        But I suppose if $29 bucks gets some psychopath trying to run you down on the road fined - its worth it.

        • +3

          But I suppose if $29 bucks gets some psychopath trying to run you down on the road fined - its worth it.

          My thoughts too. Even if the camera is crappy, $30 isn't bad if the light still works reasonably well. See how it goes when it arrives.

    • -2

      I had the Aldi one and returned it. Quality of video was fine but it would override old files on the SD and would cut out on longer rides and not due to battery either.

      • +12

        It's supposed to override old files. That's a feature of continuous recording cameras.

        • +13

          If you need to retain most of the old recordings you should have a higher capacity SD card. This is by design not a fault!

      • +3

        Would you prefer it not to record at all once the SD card is full?

      • +2

        I returned the ALDI one also!

        He means it DID NOT overwrite old files, but stopped recording when full.
        Aldi told me they were working on a firmware update to fix it.

  • -6

    No security in this thing. At best, if someone wants your SD card, they're gonna open a latch and get it easily; at worst, they can just unscrew the device from the bike and it's gone.

    Gonna be annoying to keep attaching and detaching it anytime you leave your bike in public.

    • +39

      That's why you have a second camera under the seat to watch this camera in case it gets stolen.

      • +14

        Don't forget about the drone that will be recording from air 😅

        • +2

          With drone pilot in a car next to the private security driving around town following the bike 24/7

    • +9

      Sure, but the same is true of your front light, cycle computer, water bottle, ….
      What do you want, special 17 sided Torx screws? Oh, wait, can buy screwdrivers at Bunnings….

      • +4

        You forgot saddle. Nothing is worse than having to ride home without a saddle… I bet there is some evil bas**** laughing their arse off with a collection of stolen saddles.

        • +1

          ….bas**** laughing their arse off

          If you're riding without a saddle, then who has their arse off?

    • +2

      No one will steal a $29 kogan light. There's no market.

      • +29

        I think you underestimate some of the trash we have in this country.

        • +1

          i wish i could give you 1000 upvotes

      • +3

        They certainly would. I had a cheap $2 light off ebay on the back of my bike. Parked it on the platform of a train station so it was out in the open in full view of other passengers. Yet it still got stolen.

      • there's no resale market but there's plenty of people who need a light for their bike and will just nick someone else's because it's so easy. I've had a bunch of lights stolen off my bike of varying value, now i always take them with me if locking the bike in public.

    • +1

      I feel like the same argument could be made for your bike chain, water bottle, helmet (if you like to leave it with your bike), tires, etc. Seems a bit redundant tbh.

    • +5

      Cycliq puts a lot of effort into their Fly 6 devices and they're still pretty trash (water ingress, card compatibility, randomly turning off). Tail lights are in the range for spray and debris so they get wet easily. If they fail you don't know because you can't see them without turning around. Not surprised that this one is trash (I have an Aldi one and a Cycliq one, the difference is significant).

      Cycliq support however is very good so for someone interest I would say buy Fly6 or don't bother. A cheap camera is a waste.

      • +1

        rear mud guard perhaps?

      • +1

        Good summary. I've had problems with my Cycliq Fly6 and then the Fly6CE after it has been replaced twice - but at least they did so promptly. One of the most bizarre aspects of Cycliq's lights are that the BT stays on permanently by default (unless you engage aeroplane mode manually, which is very hit and miss), so it's draining battery even while it's sitting at home and you have to pretty much leave it permanently charging.

        I asked a support chap about this and he gave the company line about how it means you can adjust settings when you're not riding - but how often do you need to play with light settings when you're on the sofa at home?

        This all said, their new Upride video site is a brilliant idea to actually put the video footage to good use if you get cut off etc.

        • I always assumed the always-on bluetooth was to make it easier to enable/disable the alarm functionality.

          • @damion: But you only need that when you're on a ride (it's not hard to turn it on at the start of your ride and off at the end), not when you're at home.

        • Do you know if you can upload to Upride without having the actual Cycliq products? Or is it somehow done direct from camera?

      • I wouldn't go so far as to say Cycliq lights are trash, but I concur there are issues.

        Can confirm Cycliq support is good - I recently had my Fly 6CE replaced (water ingress!), despite it being a few months outside the 12 month warranty period.

        There are currently no better alternatives (to Cycliq) if you want a camera light.

        In terms of not knowing if it has failed unless you turn around, the Cycliq has an option to beep every few minutes.

    • +2

      Looks like most of the reviewers have paid very higher price.

    • +3

      Saved $30, thanks.

      • Same here, thanks for sharing!

    • +1

      This comment should be the top comment.

      This review sums it up "Expensive light"

      LOL

  • +20

    record in real time

    I would be more impressed if it could record what happened behind my bike yesterday. Even better if it could record what's happening tomorrow, today.

    • +1

      I think you’ve just written a new Hollywood blockbuster.

    • +4

      You need the model with the in built flux capacitor

      • +1

        But you need to hit 88mph before it starts recording.

    • indeed hahahah

  • +4

    Thanks, OP. I have been considering buying a Cycliq set for a long time. Bought this to try it out and see what it's like/whether it's worth upgrading. Even if the camera isn't great, $30 isn't a bad price for a light if it's bright.

    • +4

      I'm now on my 4th Cycliq device, and I can say this:
      - Their customer support is really horrible. If you need tech-support, your ticket MIGHT get a reply after 4 days. Which doesn't help you when the problem is that the device won't turn off and has crashed - by that time it's run out of battery. Their support will also delete any remotely critical comment of their products or service from their Facebook page, it's highly censored and curated.
      - Video quality in the new 12CE is atrocious. It's as bad as the quality of my old Shimano Sports Camera, on which number plates were completely un-readable. I can't explain why the massive downgrade in quality between the gen 1 and gen 2 device.

      • +1

        Thanks for sharing your feedback. I was considering getting a Fly12 CE.

        • Likewise. Especially after seeing some of the sales they had on the new generation. Will definitely hold off for a while.

          I have heard that firmware is normally the issue when new models come out. Let's hope they do an upgrade.

  • +1

    This is more like Fly6 (rear camera) than Fly12 (front camera).
    I want a Kogan front camera

    • My bad. Thanks for correcting it. Yes it is a knockoff of a Fly6 (I got one)

  • +8

    Thanks OP I have bought three, one for me, my son and my wife.
    I am so sick of drivers buzzing me. If I keep left they try to squeeze in between me and the divider line or oncoming traffic. If I stay in the centre of the lane they buzz me because I'm not keeping left.

      • +3

        Neg.

        • yep…thats a neg if there ever was one

      • +5

        Stupid to tell him to stick to the footpath when it's legal to ride on the road?

        I have no issues with cyclists on the road as long as they try their best to stick to the left as best as they can.

        Some are selfish idiots that couldn't care less they are holding up traffic because they simply think they have the right to be on the road.

        You can't ride a road bike on bumpy footpath. The only options are bike paths or on the road.

        • +2

          Sticking "to the left" means keeping to the left lane, not to the far left within the lane. Cyclists should always take the lane for their own safety. Allowing drivers to squeeze past within 1m is the cause of many severe and sometimes fatal accidents. Riding in the gutter is just as dangerous.

          • @bargainshooter: Duh… I'm talking about roads with no lanes. It's illegal to overtake within 1m of cyclists. How do you expect a legal maneuover within a single lane?

        • +1

          …because they simply think they have the right to be on the road.

          They do have the right to be on the road.

      • +14

        I haven't had to whip this out for a while, can't believe people still exist that think cyclists paying registration is a good idea.

        Time for some copy/paste… This is always fun.

        Rego pays for roads? People on bikes should pay rego?

        Ok then. I live in Victoria, Australia, so..

        https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/about-vicroads/corporate-res…
        Total Expenses: $3,408,100,000 ($3.4bn)
        Motor vehicle registration: $1,535,400,000 ($1.5bn)
        Driver licences: $109,500,000 ($0.1bn)

        Difference: $1,800,000,000 ($1.8bn or 52%)

        Except, on page 45, under the heading: "Income collected on behalf of the Victorian Government and other government agencies".

        VicRoads administers the collection of certain fees, licences and duties on behalf of the Victorian Government, various State Government agencies, and the Commonwealth Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development. These amounts are not recognised as VicRoads income but are paid to the Victorian Government’s Consolidated Fund or other government agencies. During 2016–17, collections on behalf of the Victorian Government and other government agencies totalled $4.7 billion compared with $4.5 billion the previous year.

        What is the "Victorian Govt's Consolidated Fund"? I wonder what that means?

        https://vpsc.vic.gov.au/html-resources/welcome-to-government…

        Looks like a big bucket that the Govt then decides on how to divvy it up.

        So no, your rego, or my rego, or license, or even both don't nearly "pay for the roads". It just goes into central coffers and the 52% shortfall is made up by other Govt income.

        Say it does though. (It really doesn't..) Lets break it down by "use".

        I already have a license, so lets ignore that. You can argue all you like about unlicensed cyclists, but then you're arguing my 13 year old child needs a car license.. Let that sink in for a moment.

        So. Using a road.

        A bike is about 1.5 meters long and 1.0 meters wide, so that's 1.5m2.

        A Falcon/Commodore is about 4.9 meters long and 1.9 meters wide, so that's 9.31m2, or 83% bigger.

        Based on "use", my "bike rego" should be $136.00.

        I wont argue about not being able to use anything except the left half of the left lane on most of the roads, but thats just in my favour..

        Except there is wear and tear on the roads. I don't want to subsidise car/truck wear and tear when I'm not using a car/truck.

        A heavy bike is 15kg. A light bike is 8kg. The rider is inconsequential as there is also a driver in the car.

        Lets go back to the Falcon/Commodore. Lets go with 1,500kg.

        Wear and tear on a road is a known formula, refer here: http://urbanfortcollins.com/greatest-demand-on-tax-dollars/

        Too long? Don't wanna read?

        If an average car has a damage ratio of 1. Then a 9-ton truck has a damage ratio of 410 and a cyclist (350lb = 158kg..) 0.00006.

        That is to say, a cyclist on a bike, does 0.006% damage.

        0.006% of $800 is $0.048. Or 4.8 cents.

        You know, now that I think about it, I like the idea of bike rego. I think I can write out a cheque for $0.05 (hey, I'll round it up). I'd like two number plates for that price thanks. Let me know where to send my cheque please.

        As for rego stopping bad behaviour of people on bikes? I'm glad it stopped red lights, tired driving, drunk driving, drugged driving, poor driving, speeding, unroad worthy cars. I'm glad thats all behind us.

        Next…

        Bikes slow down Cars / Trucks.

        Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA0jax7qjE0

        And this isn't even bad weather. Add a few percentage more single occupant cars driving even more slowly and… you get the picture.

        Next…

        Bikes are slow and it's their fault I can't stop in time…

        Watch this and then comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQYRen_MIA

        Explain to me who is at fault in that video?

        • -1

          Most of that argument is a bit stupid.

      • +2

        Don't you know that all accidents on the road are from cyclists?

        Wonder which news you are reading? BTW, Footpath is for walking. It is illegal to ride on the footpath (at least in NSW) unless you are riding with young kids.

        I think almost all bike riders own a car and they pay registration.

        • +1

          I actually find it safer on the side of the road in the suburbs. People around me come out flying in reverse gear, which is really dangerous.

        • +4

          I feel we may be feeding the trolls here.

        • slightly off tangent - i've noticed lots of food deliver riders on footpath. very common. is there an exemption for them or something? never seen cops pull them over

      • Sigh.

        Edit: just saw your comment below. Need to use the /s symbol for sarcasm until they invent a sarcasm font

    • +7

      Ok I thought my last sentence portrayed enough sarcasm. I'm actually a cyclist.

      It was just a light recurring joke. Everyone knows all accidents are caused by cyclists, it's been proven if you've ever watched dash cams Australia…..

      • +5

        May I suggest not quitting your day job?
        (unless your day job is already a comedian, in which case you should most definitely quit)

      • +1

        Ha ha, I was about to report you

    • +4

      One thing we were taught on our motorcycle learners course was to stay towards the middle of the lane (not the actual middle because there's oil and crap there) but the idea is to not give drivers the ability to try and sneak into your lane to get around someone or past you.

      I apply the same idea on the few roads I do go on between where I live and the Sydney CBD. There's a gap in the cycleway infrastructure between Cammeray and Milson's Point where riders are forced to use the roads. If drivers in their comfy cars have to wait in order to pass in the adjacent lane then so be it. I consider my safety more important than a driver getting to their destination 6 seconds faster. More often than not, we meet again at the next traffic light anyway.

      • +2

        Always take the road. It's for your own safety. Never ride close to the gutter. Don't allow drivers to sneak past you in the same lane.

        • I think our Learner instructor called it Lane Supremacy.

          Definitely something to think about when on a bicycle.

          For the most part, I find drivers around my area to be friendly and understanding.

          Occasionally I ride back to the area of Sydney where I'm from originally and holy crap. The culture is so different. Everyone's rude, in a hurry, and there's no cycle infrastructure to speak of.

      • +1

        Actually they teach you about buffering rather than staying in the middle.

        If a driver wants to get past you, let them. No point being an injured road hog and being technically in the right.
        Some drivers are idiots. Expecting commonsense behaviour from them is unreasonable

        • No point being an injured road hog and being technically in the right.
          Some drivers are idiots. Expecting commonsense behaviour from them is unreasonable

          Yes, as much as I hate to admit it, this is the reality.

          It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong. Getting home safe is always the priority.

  • i wonder if you can use this as a webcam

    • +2

      nope unless you know how to rig it. But by then it's probably cheaper and more convenient to just buy a webcam…

  • Any recommendations on lights front and back?

    • +4

      As a cyclist, get something that is USB rechargeable and super bright.
      I like lezyne

    • +3

      Moon is a good brand. Most of their light, the battery can be replaced. I got a few and highly recommend them.

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