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  kahn on 05/05/2020 - 18:08

  -1

  The player takes control of a young man

  Cardinal Pell just up-voted this bargain.

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  ti6331 on 05/05/2020 - 18:18

  -4

  Too violent?

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    [Deactivated] on 05/05/2020 - 18:29

    Mosy games are violent

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  subywagon on 05/05/2020 - 18:23

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  I thought this would be about the CCP brutalizing HK anti-authoritarian protesters.

  

  subywagon on 05/05/2020 - 18:23 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
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    nmc4911 on 05/05/2020 - 18:38

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    I doubt CCP can do any better than protesters themselves in terms of beating random passenger, destroying the city as well as their economy.

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      kellyly on 05/05/2020 - 19:48

      +1

      Like exporting the corona?

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        nmc4911 on 05/05/2020 - 21:04

        Considering the fact that Aussie got the corona from the US that was great again and the incapable local bureaus who released the ruby princess irresponsibly…emmmmm. yes?

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          AkiraSaito on 05/05/2020 - 22:43

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          @nmc4911: People will eat whatever shit the media is feeding to them. It's the same brainwashing protocol everywhere.
          In China, it's from CCP. Here in Australia, it's not even local shit. Most of the media are controlled by US capitals.

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            subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 11:14

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            @AkiraSaito: At least in the west we are not as censored as China, hidden behind a "Great Firewall" like some Matrix crap and have access to a wide array of media and information giving us the ability to apply critical thinking and assess the world on our terms.

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              simonpieman on 06/05/2020 - 11:44

              @subywagon: https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo

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                subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 11:56

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                @simonpieman: What's your point? I'm well aware of the BS being pushed through mainstream media. We can freely access non mainstream media though. People in China can't do the same freely. They are disappeared or locked up for viewing or sharing.

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              nmc4911 on 07/05/2020 - 01:13

              @subywagon: The funny thing is, everyone in China knows the media is not entirely reliable and the government could often hide information. It is simply intersting to see a lot of Aussies/Americans feel like they can do it, while they cannot. Otherwise, how did Trump and Scomo get to the top? Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9rbHpA_6W4.

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          kellyly on 06/05/2020 - 19:23

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          @nmc4911: I believe the first few cases in Aus were from PRC and let's be honest here, how did the US or the whole world get it?

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            AkiraSaito on 06/05/2020 - 23:29

            @kellyly: There might have been cases in the US in late 2019, a lot earlier than the WUHAN outbreak:
            https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/nj-mayor-thinks-he-ha…
            It was just not reported as a pandemic
            I seriously think the US is hiding something

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              kellyly on 07/05/2020 - 00:39

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              @AkiraSaito: If that was the case the whole pandemic would have been pushed forward by a month isn't it?

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            nmc4911 on 07/05/2020 - 01:05

            @kellyly: Well…I believe you have a point only if you ever accused US for spreading H1N1 or the Spanish Flu. The first few cases from China are irrelavent to the current situation, as those people were in Christmas island. It does not matter whatsoever. Double standard is everywhere and people are just incapable to recognize it. No one care about the truth anyway. Let's just blame CCP for everything, cool?

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    inamberclad on 05/05/2020 - 18:40

    +3

    … any tanks in this game?

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      simonpieman on 05/05/2020 - 21:32

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      bricks and molotovs maybe

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    kahn on 05/05/2020 - 18:42

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    Nah, it's about protesters egged on by the National Endowment for Democracy and Jimmy Lai to provoke police action while foreign journalists eagerly await juicy footage. Could you imagine how similar protests in the USA would've been handled? Yet the Hong Kong stooges wave the American flag. Media stunts.

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      AkiraSaito on 05/05/2020 - 21:43

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      No idea why you got negged so much. To me, those are thugs, not protesters.

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        kahn on 05/05/2020 - 22:05

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        To be fair, most protesters were not violent, but quite a few were. The key giveaway that the protest movement was BS was when they continued their actions even after the extradition law was revoked. The involvement of the US was also a pretty strong hint.

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          AkiraSaito on 05/05/2020 - 22:15

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          @kahn: It's not the first time the US muddling the water. Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Taiwan, Ukraine, Egypt. Last year, HK.
          I guess most people don't really care that HK has its own government and is under a very loose string with CCP. As long as it's against CCP, it's good. Australia is even more loyal to the US than the Texas state government.

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        bchliu on 06/05/2020 - 09:56

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        Because this forum has been outnumbered by American shills. That's it basically and because the Chinese are different.

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          subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 11:10

          @bchliu: American shills? I'm no fan of the U.S either. I just don't agree with a brutal, genocidal, authoritarian regime.

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            bchliu on 06/05/2020 - 11:32

            @subywagon: Tell that to the 1.4 Billion people who live normal lives in China without any issues or concerns.

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              subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 12:00

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              @bchliu: Hahaha o rly? No issues or concerns? More likely they can't voice their concerns for fears that they will be persecuted like the 8 doctors who tried to raise their concerns regarding the new coronavirus. They don't seem too happy in Hong Kong, or in Xinjiang, Tibet…

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                bchliu on 06/05/2020 - 14:39

                @subywagon: The 8 doctors did NOT get persecuted. They received written warnings during the time because they did not have the full information - all of them assumed it was a return of SARS. Not one of them actually were jailed and all were resumed into work thereafter.

                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382

                How can these doctors be "whistleblowers" when they didn't even have the real facts in the first place? They didn't even know it was a totally new virus since the medical scientists were still trying to find out real information on the virus at that particular point in time.

                Bear in mind that the government officially released the information to WHO on the 31st of December only a day after this apparent group discussion that took place on the 30th.

                The whole "cover-up" story was written by American shill media.

                Maybe, just maybe get your facts right? Or you only believe alternative American facts?

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                  subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 17:23

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                  @bchliu: What an absolute joke. Everything is a cover up in China. Are you allowed to talk publicly about Tiananmen Square Massacre in China? Why should doctors get in trouble AT ALL for reporting a viral outbreak whether they have the full facts or not?! Of course they worked afterwards, they had to. One hero doctor even died a victim of the CCP with no apology before his selfless death.

                  It's all just a reflection of how things are run by the CCP. Everyone is too scared to report anything negative for fear of reprisals.

                  If everything was done well in Wuhan, then why were the leaders purged?

                  Also WHO is a puppet. They were saying that the virus wasn't transmittable from human to human, ignoring Taiwan's reports that it was to appease their CCP masters. So maybe you should get your facts right. My facts aren't fed to me through cringe worthy, laughable, outdated propaganda techniques as used by the CCP.

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                    bchliu on 06/05/2020 - 17:46

                    @subywagon: Lol.. Have you realised how much China has changed in the last 30 years? Or you presume that everyone is still wearing green-blue overalls with paddy hats there and working the fields? Do you really believe that a country can't be progressive enough to change? Oh yeah, of course not because "communism" and "dictatorship". You really need to go learn what Communism is and explain how modern China is communism outside of a historical name to it.

                    Question: Have you even BEEN to China? If you haven't, then you are not in the right place to even put out so called "facts" about Mainland Chinese on their daily lives. Sure, have your opinion but it's laughable the nonsense you write up.

                    China previous has done things to suppress information or people. I am no shill and I can testify to this. In fact, they have certainly covered up SARS and Tienanmen incidents and there are plenty of evidence for this. Just look at the timeline of events for Covid, there is actually NO ROOM for coverups considering a full report of the virus was handed to WHO the next day after the apparent whistleblowing happened (group chat). Dr Li Wenliang (oh you don't know the name?) was a good doctor and did his best for his family and country and he actually was honoured by the country at his funeral.

                    Did you even read that BBC article I linked in regards to what happened to the doctors in Wuhan? They did NOT get prosecuted and had multiple interviews thereafter stating this. Oh no.. this evidence doesn't suit your racist hate so BBC must be incorrect in their reporting.

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                      subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 18:02

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                      @bchliu: I have been following China my whole life. I had high hopes for China until Xi came to power. I have been to China. My experience with China is things are very advanced in the cities, but in the country side life is very hard. I don't know what you mean by "Do you really believe that a country can't be progressive enough to change?" I haven't seen any social progression in China, only regression in the last decade. Any capital progression has come at a price on society and is only truly benefited by a few.

                      China isn't a true communist country. They are way too capitalist. They are just another authoritarian state such as Taiwan was until they finally moved to being a democracy. And look how well they have done. Look at how well they handled Covid-19. They are what China could have been, and should have been. They have held onto Chinese culture and not let it be destroyed by the CCP.

                      There's heaps of room for cover ups. It's happening now. A group of Chinese were just arrested for making an archive of Chinese news stories that were being ERASED by the Chinese government. You need to open your eyes, or perhaps you too are benefiting too much from the persecution of others?

                      I read the article. But I'm confused. You are telling me that western news is biased but you are using one as a reference? The doctors WERE persecuted by the police in the first instance for reporting on the viral outbreak. Yes they backtracked, because by then the horse had already bolted. That's what that article says. Maybe you meant to link me to something more biased in favour of the CCP?

                      At least we can agree on something, Dr Li (yes I know his name) was a good man who unfortunately died persecuted without receiving an apology until after his death.

                      Why is it racist to criticize the CCP? Is CCP a race? Taiwan are Han Chinese and I support them. Hong Kong are Chinese too aren't they? I support them. You can wumao you're heart out. Your only going to be convincing you're own shills that the CCP is good which I'm sure a lot of them don't truly believe either unless they are being paid. The rest of the world is realising that they are one of the biggest threats to the entire world this century.

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        subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 11:08

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        No idea why you got negged so much. To me, those are thugs, not protesters.

        So what are the CCP to you if not thugs? I'd be fighting a lot harder to not be taken over by an authoritarian government.

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          AkiraSaito on 06/05/2020 - 11:33

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          @subywagon: It's not about CCP. I was with the protester at first thinking just the same as you.
          I thought they were fighting against an authoritarian government. But later on, it revealed to me that HK has its own government and jurisdiction and the CCP actually did very little to interfere with the protesting.
          The protesters were evidently endorsed by capitals from U.S. and CIA has been organising some of the events.
          The protesting soon turned into a riot and CCP stood aside even the HK government has explicitly asked for help.
          CCP's attitude is like, as long as HK is not officially claiming independence, they are free to do whatever. And HK government should clean up their own mess.

          I have no idea what they were fighting for because the proposed extradition law was revoked soon after the protest has begun.
          The rest of their acts are just collective anarchism, destroying their own home and hope if they ever have any.

          It's really good on you to have critical thinking without knowing too much background knowledge. Most of the news articles in Australia are reported by the U.S. and they are very biased.

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            subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 17:34

            @AkiraSaito: The CCP has been encroaching on Hong Kong's autonomy, that's why they are protesting so hard. They've just rounded up any politicians who oppose the CCP and support democracy.

            Such a weak argument that the protesters are paid by the CIA and the US. Do you mean like wumao such as yourself getting paid 50cents to spread unbelievable crap?

            They are fighting to at least be able to self govern until the full hand over and to end police brutality and CCP interference. They are fighting for freedom of speech such as what you are exercising here without fear of being punished.

            I have extensive background knowledge of Hong Kong and China's early interference concerning the One China two systems policy. ALL news articles in China are biased, as they have to go through a censorship bureaus.

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              AkiraSaito on 06/05/2020 - 23:22

              @subywagon: I am so happy to see how educated you are when you are arguing with other people who don't agree with you.

              "Do you mean like wumao such as yourself getting paid 50cents to spread unbelievable crap?"

              How much you get paid for licking the a$$ of US?

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      subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 11:12

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      Could you imagine how similar protests in the USA would've been handled?

      Similar protests in the USA? How about the stupid covid-19 freedom protests now where armed protesters are entering government buildings? How are they being handled? I haven't heard of anyone being "suicided", disappeared or brutally beaten.

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        kahn on 06/05/2020 - 12:13

        Yeah, that's white power for you. I didn't notice any violence during those protests, plenty of it in Hong Kong. As long as they're not black, poor, protesting for peace/environment, or threatening corporate profits, then it's fine it seems.

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          subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 17:45

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          @kahn: You wumao love playing "What aboutism". Wrongs in any country aren't an excuse to do wrong in your own. America has institutionalized racism. SO DOES CHINA, so does Australia. A recent example is the treatment and rounding up of black Africans in Guangzhou causing a diplomatic crisis. I also noticed the Tong entering a subway in HK beating up innocent people and protesters alike with permission from the Chinese government.

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            kahn on 06/05/2020 - 18:36

            @subywagon: My point was that a protest movement supposedly about democracy does not engage the help of the United States of America with its own rich history of crushing democracy and protests both home and abroad. It is a sure indication that the Hong Kong protest is simply anti-Chinese. One could argue if that is good or bad, but it should be acknowledged and labeled as such.

            Masquerading the protest movement as simply being pro-democratic is a PR/media stunt. It's the deceit and theater of the Hong Kong protests that is my main concern. Another thing that worries me is the manipulation of the Hong Kong public to focus their hatred and point blame to "the other". It's a (often xenophobic) strategy that is used to direct public outrage away from the true cause(s) of their suffering. Germany used the Jews, many countries including Australia used asylum seekers, Bolivia used the indigenous population, etc. At least, in those cases, they probably didn't label their efforts as pro-democratic.

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              subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 20:13

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              @kahn: How can their protest be anti-Chinese? Hong Kong people ARE Han Chinese just like on the mainland. CCP IS NOT CHINESE PEOPLE. It is a political party. If I am anti-liberal, it doesn't mean I am anti-Australia or hate Australian people. It mean's I dislike and inept, corrupt government. And hell yeah they are anti-Chinese GOVERNMENT. You'd have to be either corrupt or a moron to want to live under such a draconian, controlled dictatorship.

              My point was that a protest movement supposedly about democracy does not engage the help of the United States of America

              And your point isn't clear, what do you mean? I know America has a history of propping up dictators themselves, but you are saying it doesn't engage help from the USA? So what?

              And there's nothing wrong with being anti-Chinese government. It's not xenophobic to question a government. Especially for the Hong Kong people considering that they are mostly Han Chinese people themselves. In fact there is something wrong if you AREN'T anti-CCP or if you don't question your government or hold them accountable.

              The CCP are on par with the Nazi's. Total scum bags throughout their history implementing such brilliant campaigns as the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution where more than 40 million have needlessly perished. They've killed more of their own people than the Japanese did during their occupation and anyone who supports them should be ashamed of themselves.

              I completely understand about governments using other people's and countries to focus hatred outward instead of on their short-comings. China does it all the time with Japan, the USA and is currently using black African's and foreigners as a scapegoat and to redirect the public's anger for the second wave of Covid-19 infections caused by returning Chinese students for example. This has nothing to do with Hong Kong people not wanting to be ruled by a corrupt government.

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                kahn on 06/05/2020 - 20:40

                @subywagon: Bugger, I dun goofed with my reply. It is below.

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  kahn on 06/05/2020 - 20:39

  I believe you are mistaken about the anti-Chinese people sentiment in Hong Kong. Yes, Hong Kong is part of China, but most Hong Kongers don't identify themselves as Chinese. The BBC reported about the anti-Chinese sentiment here. The Greyzone has done some good reporting on the protests. Here is one lengthy article. They used a better term than me, they called it "nativism and mob violence".

  My mention about the protesters engaging the assistance from the USA is to argue that one should not seek the help from a party that has a history of crushing the very thing you claim to be protesting about.

  This has nothing to do with Hong Kong people not wanting to be ruled by a corrupt government.

  Are you referring to the Chinese or Hong Kong government?

  

  kahn on 06/05/2020 - 20:39 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
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  subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 21:33

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  I am aware that there is anti-mainland sentiment in Hong Kong. There is also anti-Hong Konger sentiment in mainland China. It's been there for decades. You can't call it racism as they are the same race. Maybe prejudice, but not racism. I know many Hong Kong and Taiwan people who don't like being identified as "Chinese" due to the CCP and the way they perceive Chinese people act as per those articles. Even Singaporean Chinese friends are the same. It's not racism. It's prejudice. There is anti-mainland Chinese sentiment throughout Asia and now the world which unfortunately has manifested itself with racist acts by less educated people.

  I don't think it diminishes the Hong Kong fight for freedom that they don't identify as being the same as the people on the mainland. If anything it pushes it being that they can't relate to them as well. They are not protesting to be not considered as part of the Chinese race. They are protesting to be maintain their autonomy that was promised to them with the One Country, Two Systems policy until 2047. No amount of of race baiting can change twist the narrative for the CCP which is currently how they try to close arguments and criticism down.

  My mention about the protesters engaging the assistance from the USA

  I see. I wasn't 100% clear on that. Yeah I agree with you that the US doesn't have the best track record either. I am not pro-USA just because I am anti-CCP. They have committed comparable evils as to those of the CCP. In saying that, they are still seen (whether correctly or not) as a bastion for freedom and freedom of speech. Also they are the counter weight for China, the only nation that could really challenge China so that is why the Hong Kong protesters seek help from them and also the UK. Regardless of the USA's history, they are still more free than China… for now.

  Are you referring to the Chinese or Hong Kong government?

  They are both one and the same really. If you want to be particular, then I'm referring to the CCP. You'd have to be either very naive or untruthful to say that the Hong Kong government isn't under control or influence of the CCP.

  

  subywagon on 06/05/2020 - 21:33 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)