What to Do with 2011 Alfa Giulietta?

Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 15:37
Last edited 17/04/2020 - 13:30 by 1 other user

UPDATE: Car has been sold to an OzBargainer!

Hi,

I've got a 2011 Alfa Giulietta - I estimate its worth about $6000-7000 (originally I had $9500) if it was in good condition. It has a few minor scratches and 1 big one. I think the big one will cost about $2-3K to repair. It also has a few minor issues like the speakers on one side only work intermittently.
On the plus side its been great mechanically and 2 of the tires aren't too old and battery is 9 months old and it hasn't been driven much in the last 2 years.

I don't need the car anymore so I'm trying to decide if its worth getting repaired or trying to sell as is for a cheaper price?

Any thoughts/suggestions?

Cheers

Automotive

Comments

  • gaz3342 on 14/04/2020 - 15:43
    +17

    Swap you for 400k Velocity points

    • Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 15:44
      +7

      haha - thats like $4 now

      • brendanm on 14/04/2020 - 15:46
        +63

        Approx what an Alfa giullieta is worth.

  • Sterio on 14/04/2020 - 15:47
    +10

    You will not add any value to the car by repairing it. In addition, the market for a second hand 2011 Alfa would be pretty small. Be prepared to cop a bath on it.

    • Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 16:21

      i didnt pay that much for it in the first place so not really worried. Do you think best thing is to talk to wreckers then?

      • Sterio on 14/04/2020 - 16:38
        +2

        You'd be lucky to get $1k from the wreckers. You could put it on gumtree and get inundated with the scammers or carsales (at a cost), where someone looking for an Alfa would go. You could also try one of the Alfa clubs where an enthusiast might be interested.

        • brendanm on 14/04/2020 - 18:39
          +2

          Car sales is actually free under $5k these days, over that they rip you a new one.

          • SlavOz on 17/04/2020 - 16:45

            @brendanm: How much is Carsales these days? I've listed cars years ago and it was a one off fee of like $100 or something.

  • Hithere on 14/04/2020 - 15:51
    +4

    I estimate its worth about $9500 if it was in good condition

    Have you checked Red Book? You may be in for a bit of a shock, values of older cars are dropping almost daily.

    You won't get back what you'll be spending on it to fix it up unless it's an exceptional car, super low mileage, limited edition etc.

    Currently second hand cars aren't selling well according to friends in the trade and they expect prices to drop even more as people who now are without jobs try to sell their now unneeded cars.

    • saltypete on 15/04/2020 - 09:21
      -2

      -1 you misquoted to establish your point. Not fair.

      ‘- I estimate its worth about $6000-7000 (originally I had $9500) if it was in Good condition.’

      • Hithere on 15/04/2020 - 15:36
        +1

        Obviously saltypete you didn't read the OP's original post which they've edited. So my quote, which was from their original post, is 100% correct and fair!

        Apology accepted.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/04/2020 - 10:55
          -1

          FYI saltypete did not apologise

          You're welcome in advance

        • saltypete on 16/04/2020 - 13:01
          +7

          Just logged back in. Consider apology actually delivered. 👍

          • CocaKoala on 16/04/2020 - 13:37

            @saltypete: ^^ Fellas, meet Pete. A salty, albeit very decent humanbeing.

          • Hithere on 16/04/2020 - 17:32

            @saltypete: Considered, accepted, and very impressed.

  • lgacb08 on 14/04/2020 - 16:09
    +1

    No way a near 10 year old alfa gonna be at your price estimate

  • randomusername2017 on 14/04/2020 - 16:10
    +1

    5k-15k

    Any photos of the 3k scratch?

    • Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 16:15
      +1

      https://ibb.co/7nYGzXd

      • sachz on 14/04/2020 - 16:30
        +1

        def. NOT worth $3000 to fix that scratch.

        drop $500 off the asking price, and do the deal….

        • brendanm on 14/04/2020 - 17:01
          +3

          That's not how it works. Even if it costs $500 to fix, you are without the car, have to get it done, deal with any issues, paint match etc. You have to take off way more than the repair itself is worth.

          Also, you have no idea about paint and panel, a red car I'd that age is going to need almost the entire side resprayed, as the paint is faded.

        • Cluster on 14/04/2020 - 19:40
          +2

          That 'scratch' requires repairs on 2 panels. That's an easy $1k there. Plus the car will need to be repainted. I had damage on the exact same area of the car and the repairer (under insurance) repainted most of the car to match the new white paint. Matching 9 year old red paint… problematic.

          • [Deactivated] on 15/04/2020 - 09:48

            @Cluster: What, are you serious?

            I just had some roo damage repaired. Replaced one whole panel of my car (a bigger one than this too!), matched paint, painted part of two neighbouring panels.

            $900.

            No way this is more than that.

            @Geoff-bargain, find a local panelbeater and drive the car there. Ask them how much to fix this and colour match. If it's less than say, $750, do it and sell the car at $xxxx+$750. If it's more, sell the car as is.

        • johnno07 on 16/04/2020 - 10:38
          +1

          I had similar-ish damage repaired/resprayed on a Kia for $800.

      • lovetodiscuss on 15/04/2020 - 17:43
        +2

        That's not a big scratch. On gumtree, that's called "wear and tear from usual usage and given the age of the car, it is in good condition". Trust me, I have seen worse scratches but the owner is describing like this. Haha…

      • HealthHazard on 16/04/2020 - 14:09
        +1

        Hi Mate,

        Have you tried putting rubbing compound on the scratch for a start?

        I can tell from the picture that it looks a lot worse than it is. Once you give the "scratch" a good rub with a heavy duty rubbing compound it'll take off most of the white marks which is paint/ residue from whatever you banged into. Alternately, take it to a decent hand wash place and ask them to do it.

        A new buyer may choose to live with the scratches if they are not as visible and therefore you may be able to get a better valuation.

        Definitely do this before you put it up for sale - also, please put before after photos if you do choose to do this.

        Best of luck!

  • randomusername2017 on 14/04/2020 - 16:31

    Two examples above are out of reg..
    Depends on your definition of "been great/is great mechanically"
    Wouldn't throw any more money at it.. but don't expect a quick sale unless going with that 2k valuation

    • Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 16:31
      +1

      ok yeah I might just stick it on for 2k and see what happens

  • kanad on 14/04/2020 - 17:12
    +1

    I have seen ads for tax deductible vehicle donation in shopping centres, just an idea.

    • Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 22:29

      thanks hadn't thought of/seen this

  • kevsta on 14/04/2020 - 17:22
    +1

    OP, do you have the 1.8 ltr engine or the 1.4 ltr engine ? Your sale price goes up if you have the more powerful engine in it.

    • nomoneynoproblems on 14/04/2020 - 23:45

      Yea this, what's under the hood OP?

    • lambsie on 16/04/2020 - 01:45

      1.8 would be the QV which should be closer to 10k.

      I'd be all over it if it was the QV.

  • MS Paint on 14/04/2020 - 17:49
    +5

    hasn't been driven much in the last 2 years.

    I wouldn't touch it. Hardly driven and probably short trips when it was. This is the worst thing for engines, especially Italian jobbies.

    Shit duco and probably a shit engine.

  • bobbified on 14/04/2020 - 18:52
    +4

    Given it's low value and apparent low desirability - if you've got no issues with it's reliability, I'd just keep it and minimize the annual outgoings (such as only getting third party property damage insurance and rego each year) in case you need a car for some reason.

    • Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 22:18
      +2

      yeah thats what I do now - just not sure if its worth keeping for that

      • bobbified on 14/04/2020 - 22:47
        +6

        I say keep it because, for that kind of money, it'll be difficult later to get another vehicle where you have a level of confidence in its abilities..

  • Euphemistic on 14/04/2020 - 18:56
    +3

    Advertise it for $1-2k less than others listed. ignoew the low ballers but take a decent offer. Be honest in the listing, show photos of the damage.

    Failing that, I’ll take it off your hands for $1500. Pick up this weekend.

    • brendanm on 14/04/2020 - 20:32
      +1

      Pretty generous offer tbh, there have been a couple of these sit around for sale around $2k on gumtree around here.

      • Euphemistic on 15/04/2020 - 17:50

        Rats. Thought OP was in Sydney, won’t be able to get to SA until they open the borders.

        • brendanm on 15/04/2020 - 17:51

          Dodged a bullet ;)

  • Cluster on 14/04/2020 - 19:37
    +4

    I would keep it. Someone I know owned a 2016 diesel Giulietta automatic. Bought brand new in the low $40k range. Leather interior, really nice. When he went to upgrade just 3 years later he was offered… $9000. That really shocked him.

    Your car has problems and unfortunately old Alfas are not renowned for being reliable, even if yours is. Would you be happy with $5k? That's maybe all you'll get. Remember the car has existing damage so the new owner can't get comprehensive insurance easily.

    One thing you haven't mentioned is the odometer reading.

    These are gorgeous cars. A family member has one. Looks really good and drives well. But they just don't hold their value. It's a terrible time to sell a car right now. I live in SA and have had family members travel interstate to buy cars. That's really difficult and troublesome at the moment.

    • Geoff-bargain on 14/04/2020 - 22:22

      Id def be happy with 5K but doubt I would get that much. I think 3k would be lucky.
      Odometer is 110,000.
      I bought second hand so hasnt cost me that much over the 5 years I've had.
      Yeah I'm in SA too - I dont need to sell it so could hold until the virus passes.
      I was just trying to get an idea of should i sell as is or fix or sell to wreckers - or maybe another option that I hadn't thought of.

      • brendanm on 15/04/2020 - 17:55

        Try one of those "sell your car for cash now" people. I just sold a car with areyouselling and while the price was obviously lower than private sale, it was easy and car was gone in a day.

      • Cluster on 16/04/2020 - 15:37

        For $3k you would have people lining up around the block to buy it. $5k I think you'll get instant interest, maybe knocking the price off by $500. $7k I think the car will sit around for a few months waiting to be sold. There are 2013 Giuliettas with less km and no body damage for $7k on CarSales.

  • nubzy on 14/04/2020 - 20:33
    +4

    These are excellent cars and the most beautiful hatchbacks on the roads, but resale is horrendous, even worse than the French cars, which are also bloody fantastic. If it was me i'd keep driving it, and see if a touch up guy can fix up the scratches. Maybe even attempt a DIY repair after a bit of research.

    • Ramrunner on 15/04/2020 - 13:01

      Yeah I have a 2016 QV which I absolutely love, and get a lot of nice comments about, but unfortunately Alfas have a bad reputation and resale.

      A few people told me that because it is the QV edition with the special badgework/dash/graphics etc., it will hold value more than the Veloce they switched to in 2017, but I doubt that very much unless I meet a collector maybe.

      I knew that when I bought it though - no regrets.

      Shame really in my experience now over the last 4 years they don't quite deserve the bad rep they get but it is what it is I guess…

      I would be perfectly open to buying Alfa again. The new Tonale looks sexy as hell.

  • newreg1 on 14/04/2020 - 20:55

    Which state are you in? prices seem higher in Sydney

  • nikoris on 15/04/2020 - 03:09
    +5

    Fix it and keep this beauty.
    Dont listen to the Ozbargainers here, they will tell you to sell it and buy a bucket on wheels aka camry

  • HeWhoKnows on 15/04/2020 - 08:35

    You rarely get your money back fixing cars
    Sell it AS IS

    • Geoff-bargain on 15/04/2020 - 13:15

      yeah after the comments here i dont think i will fix

      • nikoris on 15/04/2020 - 17:10

        What kind of comments did you expect?
        Unless it was a Toyota or honda, the narrative is 'Sell and get a Camry or Civic'

        • Geoff-bargain on 15/04/2020 - 19:36

          There is one comment above saying could possibly get scratch fixed for a lot cheaper and then it might be a case of get fixed and sell

  • Commander Shepard on 16/04/2020 - 00:24
    +2

    I owned a White 2011 QV Manual and two 159s. Excellent cars. Reliable, lots of kit and excellent value for money used.

    If you wanted it gone. I would cut my losses and sell it privately for 1-2k under market value.

    Or if your a person that couldn't care less what you drive, attempt a DIY cheap repair and continue to drive it.
    Honestly it doesn't look that bad, even if you got super cheap auto touchup paint, it would still look tidier that majority of cars on our roads.

    https://ibb.co/7nYGzXd

    Especially if that's the damage. I reckon you could get it sorted for $500. Might not be perfect. But 99% of people wont notice

    • Geoff-bargain on 16/04/2020 - 00:39

      ok thanks for your input ill look into it.

    • lambsie on 16/04/2020 - 01:55

      What did you get for you QV if you don't mind sharing?

      • Commander Shepard on 16/04/2020 - 08:29

        (In SA 9 months ago) I sold my 2011 Manual White QV 84000kms with full leather, sunroof, exhaust, tint for $10500. Interior/body was in excellent condition. Only problem with the car weas that the DRLs wouldnt always work.

        QV is a great car. If you wanted the equivalent underpowered GTI you have to pay more or have over double the kms for the same price.

        • lambsie on 16/04/2020 - 16:02

          I'm assuming there was a very limited market for your QV? Such a shame about the demand for euros and manuals.

          Genuinely tossing up between trying to get a Gulietta QV or a Megane III RS for around that price (10-12k). Some genuine bargains.

          • Commander Shepard on 16/04/2020 - 16:27

            @lambsie: Umm, not really actually, there were 2 or 3 of the same type and white at the same time. I just presented mine well i guess.

            Meg 3 is a great car. And is a much better option in SA now with another dealership opening.

  • imnotgoingtopayrrp on 16/04/2020 - 14:16

    The sad reality is that Euros lose a lot of money each time they are sold. I've had some fiats, Renault and I have alfa now. When I sold them it's at a huge loss, due to no-one wanting them (especially in manual). I'm in the same boat where my alfa has got a few bumps and dings. I would say this is where your alfa will be a pleasure to keep. It's in this period that you don't care about how they look, so they are perfect to take to that tight car park and not care about what you come back to. Also, small cars are really fun to drive it like you stole it. I'm fortunate enough to live near Macquarie pass (an awesome winding mountain road), and the alfa always makes me smile when i drive that road. And hey, if it gets stolen or crashed, it's not a big loss.

    I'd keep it. If you have to, take the plates of it (get the rego back) and park it up for another day in the future*.

    *if it's the 1.4 multiair it's not going to like sitting with old oil in it for to long and may damage the valve mechanism.

    • Geoff-bargain on 16/04/2020 - 22:45

      yeah I have to say that has been a nice advantage as you say about leaving it in car parks and not being worried. But yeah just dont need the costs for something that gets used so little.

  • djprima on 16/04/2020 - 14:49

    I was going to suggest to list your car in a car sharing platform, but not sure which company operates in SA. Car Next Door is not available there to my knowledge.

  • nomoneynoproblems on 17/04/2020 - 16:29

    Glad you sold your car OP, would you be willing to disclose how much you sold it for, for the curious folks here?

  • SlavOz on 17/04/2020 - 16:47

    Sell it but don't be fussy on the price. Take what you can get.

  • nubzy on 17/04/2020 - 18:34
    -1

    How much did you sell it for? Nice to know there are at least some Ozbargainers on here happy to think outside the box and drive something other than a boring Corolla

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