Have been desperate for a real coffee while in iso, the blend 43 is just not cutting it.
Found this deal after looking at used machines for nearly the same price. Bing Lee and Harvey Norman both have it for $499.
Shows $389 on site but instant 5% cashback drops it to $369 in cart.
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$30 off $300+ spend for You and Your Friend (New Customers).
When you put it in the cart, the price drops.
Ah. Good to know
5% price drop didn't happen. When i added in cart and checked out.
It worked for me on April 13.
Thanks OP.
This or the $199 delonghi one?
I got the delonghi one and it’s been great. Only downside is due to the small size it takes a little bit to cool down if you’re making several coffees at a time.
I would also recommend slightly coarser grounds for the delonghi one, I have two coffees and one is mich finer than the other and the more coarse one is much better tasting
Big fan of my Delonghi because it's so compact, but I only have 1 cup a day. If I had more / larger household, I'd probably be more inclined to go with something like this with the grinder.
If you are replacing a pod machine, got with Delonghi.
I find the default 12 suits me best
When you say cool down, what do you mean? I don't have any issue making several coffees back-to-back with mine. It's a great unit for its size. Pair it with a great grinder and you're in business.
After using the milk frother it can have a cool down period before you can make another cup, isn’t usually long. I have enough time to clean everything before making the next cup.
@[Deactivated]: While the lights are flashing, you just need to turn the steam dial to the steam setting. It will run some water through and get it back to the right temp to make another coffee within 10 seconds or so.
How fussy are you about coffee? I'm not ultra fussy but the coffee mine makes is awful, crema is garbage and the milk texturing has such large bubbles… trying to decide if mine's broken or its just generally not great
I have very limited experience with this machine…..
Can't comment too much on the crema part, what grind are you using? Did you do the milk first or coffee first?
The milk part I can comment on as it caught my attention with my limited experience. It seem to blow a lot of bubbles and the different on the setting make very little difference. Its simply very difficult to control even when you have experience.
@syswong: Unfortunately for me cheapie grinder, I try to make it consistent though. Beans are fresh. Have tried overfilling, underfilling, tightly packed, loosely packed, to varying results.
If you are using the machine currently and aren't happy with the milk I'd absolutely recommend taking off the panarello (try not knowing the word for that when you want to google it to see how to fix it) and affix the rubber spout with a zip tie. Makes the milk a hundred times better, not perfect though and I'm not completely happy bit still.
I usually do the shot first and milk second, what do you reckon?
@Scantu: I don't own this machine but used it in a few occasion in friends place and you can see from my comment I hate this thing so much :)
I am not that picky on the crema, again I am not a coffee addict and I know the limits of domestic machine like I mention below. However your grind is a key to crema (and obviously you beans too).
When you say cheapie grinder I assume you are using a blade grinder. They are ok for most type of grinds but espresso machine. The reason is blade grinder simply chop up the beans and you can understand that the blade can only chop to a certain level of finest which sometimes not fine enough for the portafilter of an espresso machine.
What you need is a burr grinder, it crush the bean instead of chopping it. As you can imagine this way you can crush it as fine as your want hence the grind is suitable for espresso machine.
Using a machine with thermal block like the Delonghi Dedica, you should always do the milk first then coffee. thermal blocks control temperature better when going from high to low which is what happen when you do milk first. This is the part that i said the Dedica is too difficult to switch between milk and coffee. The controller confuse itself and wouldn't switch from coffee to milk (although you are not suppose to do it). I have to switch off and back on yo resolve this issue.
@syswong: Yeah I agree… Thanks for the info! Even with the investment in a grinder though I fear it's not enough, when I get the coffee shop to pregrind the beans and pull a shot right away it's still unfortunately bad :(
@syswong: To cool it down quicker going from milk to coffee extraction, set your machine back to coffee mode and let some steam out into the cup you're going to use. This will clean out the steam wand, heat up your coffee cup and cool the machine down allowing you to proceed with extracting your shot within a few seconds.
So:
1) Turn machine on and set to milk mode.
2) Froth milk.
3) Set machine to coffee mode.
4) Release some steam into your coffee cup for a few seconds or until coffee light stops flashing.
5) Chuck out steam water.
6) Extract your shot.
@dontpanic: Obviously people who actually own it and use it often know what to do. Thanks and I will tell my friends that owns it, but…..
This is the part that it makes a simple process complicated. See I know exactly what need to be done so on a machine that have direct control, I just dial from steam to coffee, run a round of water to cool down the block and heat up the head. you are done. No flashing lights, no waiting. Oh and still doesn't change / fix the problem of small water tank and poor weight balancing.
Sorry I just can't be talk into changing my mind when they ask for $200 for this POJ… Thats just me,
@syswong: " I just dial from steam to coffee, run a round of water to cool down the block and heat up the head. you are done. No flashing lights, no waiting."
But how do you know if you've obtained the correct temperature? Does the machine have a light indicator? Or do you burn coffee?
My Gaggia Classic also has lights to indicate. And yes, I have to wait for it to heat up a LOT longer. It's all part of the game.
Thermodynamics of heat transfer is NOT an instant thing.
@alxr0101: Of course there is a light. Even as basic as EM3820 has a temperature light, the difference is letting the Delonghi take its time or DIY aka use my brain, I prefer to use my brain.
For 199 the delonghi is absolutely garbage. Too difficult to switch between Milk and coffee. Also don't know why people like how compact it is, size is its biggest flaw. You always have to hold the machine to load because its weight balance is wrong, and don't get me started with its water tank. LOOK!! coffee machine are big for a reason, and the delonghi in my opinion did nothing right except giving it a good look. If you want a coffee machine that is under $200, just go and buy the Kmart one.
As for EM5300 and generally Sunbeam machines, price in the extra warranty when you purchase. They are not bad for its price, but don's seem to last very long. I also don't like the idea of build in grinder as one fails the whole thing goes back, yeah I know it is saving space and convenient… That's just me.
Are you saying the K-Mart one is the best under $199? It was on clearance recently I think!
Which machine do you recommend? Above $200 and below $200. Thanks
To me unless you go to a dual boiler machine then they are all the same, I can't justify their $600+ price though. In fact I will not pay more than $200 for a domestic coffee machine.
When I say the same I mean they all run with one thermal block, average pump… etc. You expect these for cheap domestic machine. So I look for machines with simple and manual controls that allow workarounds to overcome short coming of these machines. I had a EM3820 before an its simplicity makes it great wihtin its limit. Sadly easy to break is also one of its limitation.
So to answer your question I don't see a point spending more that $89 as the Kmart machine has enough flexibility to make a reasonable cup of coffee. The alternatives at your price range are Sunbeam EM4300 and Breville BES810BSS which I can't justify the price for a basic domestic machine.
One advise though, do not buy machines with milk tank. they cannot be clean properly and get stinky because milk has gone somewhere that you cannot clean out.
@syswong: I only drink short, or long blacks.
Are these automatic or semi automatic? I need a grinder?
I'm lazy, I don't want the perfect cup like everyone else. I just want it made lol
@[Deactivated]: They are all semis man and yeah you will need a grinder unless you go for the one in this deal. IF you are not picky then you can do pre-grind from your local supply or supermarket :)
I still stick with the Kmart one for your drinks although the portafilter once mounted has a gap that is shorter than most machines out there so you can't use a really tall cup for your long black.
A reasonable grinder can be have for about $100 when on sale. So together you are still throwing out less than $200 in total.
@syswong: "A reasonable grinder can be have for about $100 when on sale."
Really? This statement truly nails home the knowledge and practical experience you supposedly have with all things coffee.
Name this mythical "reasonable" grinder so we can all ponder the marvelous specifications.
@syswong: "One advise though, do not buy machines with milk tank. they cannot be clean properly and get stinky because milk has gone somewhere"
This IS a completely valid observation.
The rest…well….
@alxr0101: I can see where you are going with your tone….
I am not expert in coffee nor I am picky on it. Just sharing what I know and experience. For people who don't want to spend too much money on their equipment and get the best coffee out of it, I think my comments are valid.
For a burr grinder, the Sunbeam one is under $100 even before sale. Breville BCG600SIL goes just around $120 when on sale. There are also one or two no brand ones goes on ebay brand new around this price range too.
@syswong: "I am not expert in coffee nor I am picky on it. Just sharing what I know and experience. For people who don't want to spend too.."
Then you should know how to efficiently go from milk to brew temp instead of throwing your hands up and blaming the machine.
Whether it's a Delongh Dedica, Rancilo or Gaggia Classic…for single boiler/thermobloc…bring the temp down by running water through it. It's even in the factory manual and YouTube guides…and extremely knowledgeable reviewers also cover this technique, even for the Dedica.
But don't base criticism of the machine due to improper use or understanding of how these class of machines operate to control temperatures for different operations.
It's not helpful. And don't run to the "coffee snob" excuse…these are the fundamentals of thermobloc.
Can you point to any online expert reviews that confirm your observations? I can't.
Don't be childish by downvoting constructive criticism..
All kitchen benches are not created equal. A compact machine appeals to those with smaller kitchens.
My kitchen is tiny, and you should see how big the Kmart Anko is (the one on special before).
If you want a tiny machine, go capsule. IMO whats the point to create a device that is compact which shouldn't be compact in the first place? Can manufacturer make a 2-3 lite pressure cooker? of course, does it make sense? No and that's why they are all around 5-6 liter.
If you want a tiny machine, go capsule
I recommend my set up. Nanopress with barista kit and a good ceramic burr hand grinder and if you want milk, get a cheapo milk frother. Costs about $150 (plus frother) all up on special, no bench space taken! Does a great espresso and you can take it wherever you want (camping, work etc.) Just add boiling water.
I've been pumping up 2x coffees with it for 2 years now daily. Hasn't skipped a beat.
To cool it down quicker going from milk to coffee extraction, set your machine back to coffee mode and let some steam out into the cup you're going to use. This will clean out the steam wand, heat up your coffee cup and cool the machine down allowing you to proceed with extracting your shot within a few seconds. It's not difficult at all and it takes very little time.
So:
1) Turn machine on and set to milk mode.
2) Froth milk.
3) Set machine to coffee mode.
4) Release some steam into your coffee cup for a few seconds or until coffee light stops flashing.
5) Chuck out steam water.
6) Extract your shot.
" For 199 the delonghi is absolutely garbage. Too difficult to switch between Milk and coffee. "
Seems easy enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqUFkOHlYEE&list=PLEMc1V_7ah…
Same as a Gaggia Classica too.
See how much hassle when Gail is operating the delonghi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiOpkuHkhU0&t=856s
and if you want to argue that she doesn't know her stuff than I really have nothing to day.
@syswong: I'll let Gail argue lol.
https://youtu.be/vxUvnKGqWS0?t=338
oh wait… so that's how you go from milk to brew!
Your earlier video didn't seem to offer any insights to your opinions, except to confirm the pluses and limitations of pressurised baskets. If you're using cheap grinders or supermarket coffee..or just want to enjoy coffee without the snobbery and drama.. pressurised baskets are the way to go.
Here's yet another review. https://youtu.be/zuzHS5SXaJk?t=450
Seems fine.
@alxr0101: Nothing wrong from milk to brew, coffee 101, it the way it let you do it that sucks.
See how your tone "cheap grinders" "snobbery"…. everything not goes with your star alignment is wrong. Typical OZBKH….
You love the delonghi, I hate it….. lets just leave it at that.
@syswong: "See how your tone "cheap grinders" "snobbery"…. everything not goes with your star alignment is wrong. Typical OZBKH….
You love the delonghi, I hate it."
No, Ozbargainers expect realistic opinions.
Not from someone that doesn't even own it, used a mates, doesn't even know how to use it (or understand the basic operations (limitations and attributes) of a typical single boiler semi automatic espresso machine…and when pulled up on the facts, falls back to pointless name calling.
@alxr0101: knowing how a machine works is good enough to tell if ti is good or bad.
How many machine you had and whats the range? I had machines as expensive a Jura and as cheap as Kmart Anko, and a few in between. So i know operation wise if one is good or bad. That is my realistic opinion… hands on experience.
BTW learn to speak the correct term, none of these has a boiler in it. In fact there is only a handful of machine in the retail space that use a boiler. The rest are all thermal block or thermal coil. There you go another free lesson for you !! ( ＾◡＾)っ✂╰⋃╯
@syswong: But that's the point; you (and your mates) didn't know how to quickly cool the boiler/bloc back to brew temp.
Yes, I do know the difference (don't be pedantic and petty). Have you ever stripped down a Gaggia (or your Jura) to replace gaskets, split the boiler, adjust the 3 way solenoid valve?
Calling a product "garbage" because you don't understand the basics is just silly….or calling it "garbage", because its design brief is to be compact, also misses the point.
It's like calling a scooter "garbage" because it "only" has a small petrol tank and can't go up hills at 80kph because of its small motor.
@syswong: "BTW learn to speak the correct term, none of these has a boiler in it. "
Next time you visit your friend, perhaps you can both read the manual before operating it. Delonghi actually refers to "the boiler" in the manual..22 times. But lets not get pedantic..we know these are pump espresso with no traditional boiler.
But read the manual.
do you have a seperate grinder?
Build in, separate, hand grinder, pre grind…..Been there done it.
Back to pre grind at the moment as been very lazy to clean up lately.
If you are picky and and have time, nothing beats a hand grinder and a Moka pot. The catch is too much hard work!!
I got the delonghi one and its been great! 3/3 days its made a great cup! Despite me not knowing how to make coffee before I brought it. It seems to be fairly forgiving. If I was to be critical of anything I just wish the double shot was a little bit bigger.
dont buy it if its that compact one it is the bane of my life and I f'cking hate it. awful coffee, and the build is s'ite
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Any good reviews on this?
Try product review.
I'd base a purchase decision on my gut feeling before I'd ever bother going on Product Review. Bunch of people complaining because they haven't maintained something or read the manual properly and now it won't work, and the positive 'reviews' on there are just "it's good, would recommend" with no specifics. Pass.
Whats the promo kit actually include, couldn't tell from the link?
cheers
Been using this daily for over a year. Been excellent so far no issues.
So whats the main difference between this one and the Breville Barista Express apart from the price? You can get them for $520 at times
yea interested to know
Got the breville last year for under $500 from memory and best iv seen it since is low $600s
Need another for work now…
Barista Express has a gauge showing you if you're under- or overextracting. And everything that's included in that Sunbeam's free $99 kit is standard in Breville's.
Can't tell much about Sunbeam's, but Breville's ergonomics are just great, eg. Large and convenient water tank, capacious and easy do maintain tray, cleverly hidden mini storage.
dunno about large water tank haha feels like we are filling it up daily
The gauge isn't worth it (and apparently often inaccurate/broken). You can tell by the taste, crema and/or extraction time if your coffee is under our over extracting.
So if I set the coffee at the wrong Grinding size, the Gauge will be under or over the premium zone within the Gauge? Is that right?
Yeah. I'm not an expert and I trust it. But you see someone in another comment says it's "apparently often inaccurate/broken". You may want to google that.
Re the water tank - somebody says: "feels like we are filling it up daily". I guess if there are 4 people in the house drinking 2-3 long coffees a day and using the hot water, it might be even you need to fill it up twice a day. I fill it once every 3-4 days - 3-4 espressos/day + frothing.
You had me on "capacious"
Noted :)
Won't hold a party, just 2 litres, to be clear.
B-Ex has unpressurised baskets too
how does it compare with the breville barsta express?
Have one of them at home and it works pretty well once grind was dialled in
Looking for one for work now and the breville as not been a good price since!
Bought it last year when it went on special. Just started using it since working from home now. Makes good coffee. The bonus makes it an even better deal as those are accessories you would buy anyways.. The included tamper is OK but a heavier stainless steel is better.
So if price is not an issue which one is better or are they both on par between
Sunbeam 5300 vs breville 870 ?
If price is not an issue, get a seperate grinder
This or a 8 years old delonghi prima Donna?
I had an old automatic Delonghi coffee machine, absolutely cannot recommend it. Thought it was a bargain ($1,000 machine for $300), but it was a nightmare to clean (coffee grounds eventually get everywhere in the machine, took forever to clean out properly), milk frother wasn't very good and eventually the grinder broke so it was just a massive machine taking up a whole lot of counter space.
Replaced it with the cheap delonghi machine everyone is on about and never looked back. "Automatic" doesn't mean easier. It's much easier to clean a manual machine because you mostly just wipe down the outside parts, the inside remains all sealed.
They're made for an office, where you can just keep putting piles of coffees through it and emptying the bin, then give it a good clean once a week. For a handful of coffees on the weekend it's not worth it, because the weekly clean isn't any easier.
Thanks for your comments. I've got a full manual and considered picking up a good automatic to replace it as i've gotten over the process part a bit. This completely talked me out of it
I've been using a Delonghi Magnifica from 2011. 2 cups per day. Great unit.
The inside (brew group unit) is the same or similar as the prima Donna.
If you have issues with coffee beans spilling everywhere, it is likely that you haven't serviced the machine lately (o-rings worn out). The mechanism is locking up when it tries to push the beans into a 'pallet' which causes the beans to go everywhere when it disposes it after brewing.
Replacing the o-rings on the infuser and brew group is easy and costs about $10 in parts. This will generally fix the coffee beans spilling everywhere. Look it up online on how to service it.
With the milk throther, flush it (steam with no milk) before steaming your milk. For some reason alittle water always gets stuck in the tube to the throther, so if you stick it direct into milk, it will often not have good pressure since there is water + steam being mixed in the pipes.
Don't forget 1% cashback at CashRewards.
Earliest date for delivery to Melbourne is 23rd May.
I ordered mine last night got this Wednesday for the delivery date. Must've sold a few.
I got a date of May 23rd as well. It also looks like the essentials kit offer finishes on May 15th?
you can claim by the 31st May
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Thanks OP
Trying one out moving from a dolce gusto pod machine
Or you could go via eBay and get it earlier than May 15th if you are willing to accept a credit for the diff?
$422.05 delivered on eBay
Claim price difference in credit : $53.05 + $2.65 (5% diff) eBay credit
Claim cashback of 3% : $12.66 cash back
Mine is coming 15th April 🤷🏼♂️
Must have got in early - mine is now showing the 14th of May.
Can you claim price difference if the eBay listing shows postage as well?
Nvm. The link you referred has a buyer rating of 0 lol
Seems like a great first machine for any non coffee snobs
What's the difference between this one and the breville?
I like the features of this machine, and the manual is quite comprehensive with quite a bit written on coffee techniques etc. e.g. p15 on coffee extraction and p16 for milk texturing technique.
https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/public/manuals/EM5300-Su…
Features that seem good for the price:
PID control with temperature adjustment. PID keeps brew temperature stable while extracting, and is important if you have to switch between brewing and steaming. Also, you can adjust the temperature in 2 degree steps which can help for dialling in the machine for new beans/grind etc.(p22)
Programmable buttons for extraction volume. You can customise the one cup, two cup and manual buttons to your desired volume.(p21), as well as customisable pre-infusion (p23).
58mm portafilter - this is the most widely used size in good machines and will be compatible with most good grinders (if you have/get one later), so there may be other options for baskets, tampers etc.
Single wall baskets included, which are less forgiving but in the end provide better feedback for dialling in your grind and tamp.
2.1L water tank is a good size.
Good clearance for larger cups.
Having a built in grinder is not the best, but you could always buy a proper one later.
The 1y warranty is light on though - with an integrated grinder, there are more things to break.
I think I'll wait for another deal on the EM4300 (semi-automatic); less to have to think about.
I've owned both "entry" level Sunbeam and Breville machines.
The benefit of the sunbeam machine over the Breville is the portafilter group head size. (You can fit in a lot more in the basket 58mm)
It also includes "auto shot" feature which I haven't done enough research to know if this is volumetrically adjustable.
Personally speaking and for the cost this is a great machine which will serve you well for the morning caffeine cravings.
Please purchase some fresh beans from five senses/inglewood and any other roasters mentioned in the forum.
Youtube has a wealth of knowledge for coffee however measuring ratios may not be applicable to the auto-shot volumetric side of things.
Hmmm I was set on the barista express but this seems like a good price !
Savings of $300 compared to the barista express
What do you guys think ?
Best to buy the Barista Express. Used one at a mining site and it survived that environment and abuse.
I have owned 3 Sunbeams (cheaper on special but they kept getting replaced under guarantee) until I gave up.
I was trying to wait for a barista express also but jumped on this one as it seems like a really good machine, and I can buy a lot of high quality beans with the price difference.
This looks like a better machine, though I do prefer the look of Breville's Barista series, and Breville in general.
58mm portafilter requires higher pressure, so presumably this is a better built machine. In the Breville lineup, only the Dual Boiler and Oracle series come with 58mm group head and portafilter.
Should I ditch the breville 860 for this? the grinder on this has no dose control at all :/ also this has a PID controller
Shows $389