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Fantastic NAS, The CPU in it is good enough to serve some basic stuff from it, and if you're feeling handy the Synology OS has a nice docker container runner that works very well.
Any decent tutorials on how to use Docker on Synology? Wouldn't mind running a PiHole install from the NAS and free up a Raspberry Pi.
I did this with very little experience. Got Pi Hole set up with a couple clicks. It's literally install Docker, search registry for the PiHole image you want, download and then install. There are a few params to set, but it was 2/5 difficulty rating.
Thanks. I got as far as installing it, but couldn't work out how to run it or set parameters. Docker seemed too convoluted and unnecessarily complex to me. I'll give it another go. The video looks promising.
How many VMs can I run on these?
I've got 4 and it's fine. All depends what your containers are doing.
It is very good, but one minor criticism… it doesn't sleep very well, or at all. It's not possible to switch to standby in a similar way to your laptop. Even with no tasks or network activity, it still keeps busy - hard drive always active. I'm looking forward to next-gen fanless silent NAS.
my old ds213 air has some snooze features, i only use the schedule one. It switches completely off out of hours
Hard drives active is better than turning on and off all the time.
My only 2 drive failures were for that reason.
good to know
@juki: Well don't go complaining when your hard drives develop bad sectors, they aren't meant to be turned on and off repeatedly. It's what shortens the life of mechanical drives.
NAS are made to stay on. I had them going off around midnight everynight, a year or so later… issues.
Your data/time. The Power usage is actually irrelevant.
@scuderiarmani: its been about 9 years with no issues. I'm not an IT guy - nothing in the manual indicated to do so, so i just toggled the option as it was there.
it has a back up too, so no need to get upset :P
(i'm not too bad at mspaint but you wont see me complaining)
nice price
waiting for the DIY Server vs NAS comments.
…and the "where/when are the new year models arriving." :)
What do you guys think
Would piecing together a dedicated server with spare parts you already have lying around be good enough for a Plex server?.
Any major advantages of getting a proper NAS?
a cobbled together build could quite easily be more capable of running Plex than this thing, but the main advantage of these types of units is the much lower power consumption - which is of great significance if you plan on leaving it on 24/7.
software is a big one too, less tinkering required to get up and running and you'll save hours you'd otherwise spend weighing up the pros and cons of FreeNAS and Unraid lol.
I have an old pc running an i7 4770 + Ubuntu Server set up with dockers running Plex + all the good stuff. It can handle 5 transcodes at once quite happily. Though to be honest if I had the money to spare I would love something like this running all my docker containers.
I've wondered about doing this when I upgrade. Currently, have an 3770 and ddr2 ram.
Do you know what your power consumption is like?
@Caped Baldy: I haven't really even thought about power consumption to be honest.
This is the guide I followed - I ended up going all out and setting up reverse proxy as well.
https://www.smarthomebeginner.com/docker-home-media-server-2…
This website is a great resource for anyone wanting to set up a docker home server.
Advantages of one of these:
- Easier to set-up
- Much more power-efficient (usually)
- Much smaller (usually)
- Less risk of screwing something up and losing data
Advantages of DIY:
- Cheaper for better performance (and more drive slots)
- Can use whatever old hardware you have lying around if you don't want to buy new (even repurposed laptops)
- Much more versatile
- Much more fun!
For around the same price as the OP, you can build something like this: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GhTZGc
Which would be much more powerful, support two more drive bays, be potentially much faster and very upgradable with no real corners cut - obviously a lot more set-up work goes into this but it's a different class of performance. The only thing you lose is one m.2 slot (but you gain 2 sata ports) and one networking port (but if you really need this gigabit cards are cheap). You can boot of the small SSD included or off a USB stick depending on the OS you go for. I would use FreeNAS or XigmaNAS, but Unraid or even a Linux server would work fine.
Again, this will be bigger, louder and less power-efficient, but for me it's definitely worth it.
it really depends on your use case.
I've got an Unraid build using cheap parts for home.
It's also something new for me, so it's also the challenge of learning new tech, dockers etc.it runs headless, and using jellyfin it can deliver a few streams no issues. Combined with Sonarr, it works great.
Just a small note but if you go DIY and use Plex HW encoding, use a Celeron instead. QuickSync will do HW but AMD will not.
Also consider openmediavault, really easy to set up.Edit
For example, https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6GQRCL
Waiting for the QNAP vs Synology comments ;-)
I have QNAP and Xpenology. I prefer Synology's DSM software.
Ditto.
QNAP must be crap i find synology's software pretty lackluster.
Terramaster 😉
Waiting for real comments…
Waiting for the: 'When's the new version due out?' comments
Waiting for: "It will be cheaper when the new model comes out… base on rumour".
This is the only reason I haven't bought one of these, they are all due for a refresh, though with current world events this may be even longer.
I just did some work on a QNAP and they required me to buy a license to access exFAT WTF. This was also to replace to failed TS-251 devices and found out the cheapest option to migrate the data over was buying an overpriced TS-251+ what a rip.
Not saying Synology is bullet proof as I have had my hardware failures on a rack mounted Synology before, but I would not recommend QNAP to anyone from my personal experience.
Synology has better software (DSM) and better looking hardware (if you care about that thing).
Microsoft licenses out exFat access, which they control the rights for. When you buy a laptop, that license is built into the cost of the operating system.
So naturally, Synology and QNAP charge a fee for access to the format.
I agree, DSM is better and shiny.
Bought this on a recent deal, It does everything you want from a plex perspective.
Does it require any special modification for Plex?
Or run through docker
@DryScissors: If you have the Plex Subscription (lifetime for me), you are better off running the Plex app on Synology DSM, as the docker image isn't licenced to run hardware transcoding.
That being said I've had no issues running the app on the 918+. I use docker for everything else though.
918+ is amazing, have a Minecraft server running on it once I upgraded the RAM too.
@gtarone: I currently use Docker for everything except Plex. Good to know about the hardware transcoding as I was about to switch to a Docker build.
I have the DS416play with upgraded ram and can’t think of a reason I’d ever need to upgrade.
Waiting for a product refresh/update…
What ram do people put in this to upgrade it to 8GB?
Crucial CT8G3S186DM 8GB RAM
You can buy two sticks and take it up to 16GB if you like.
I have this installed in my DS918+ with no problems.
waiting for a good deal on a 1 or 2 bay nas
What are your plans for a 1 or 2 bay nas?
Basic central cloud storage with external HDD backups
Drives are expensive at the moment, something to keep in mind..
not seen an 8tb at that price since the big sales. they are usually around $350 best price lately
8TB is around ~$220 when shucking WDs
Just bought 10TB seagate expansions off Amazon. All 3 came with Barracuda Pros (7200 PMRs). Scanned them fine, shucked them and rebuilding my array now.
Put them into my DS1019+ (which is 5 bay version of this deal), and 16GB ram (DDR3L-1600 kingston).
The Seagates were around $300, they may be around $320 now.
@slam: Hi slam, a few questions if you don't mind sharing:
- Have you experienced any issues with the 16GB RAM upgrade?
- Or is it not fully tested yet, as I note you said you are building your array?
- Can you please share the model number of the RAM you bought?
I would like to get some RAM before the prices skyrocket.
@Master Bates: For the ram, I originally had them in an Intel I3 NUC, these were Kingston value ram DDR3L 1600Mhz ram (PC12800) CL11. I used these for a while and have memtested the ram, so I know they are good.
When I got my DS1019+, 2months ago. I got a few drives, setup DSM. All good, was able to run Virtual machines, Docker containers and anything else I can throw at it. DSM registers 16GB ram.
Looking at the spec of the CPU J3455, it says 8GB Max, but thats per channel, the CPU supports dual channel, hence I know why it works with 2 sticks of ram.
Heres the Ram Model number: KVR16LS11/8 <— Becareful make sure you get the DDR3L 1.35v versions.
I believe some crucial rams with the same speed / specs work, you will need to google the part number.
This is the same thing with my other NUC that has a J5005, that runs DDR4. Spec says 8GB Max, but its per stick or channel. I just went ahead and put 16GB in my NUC and it worked.
The Synology vendors themselves havn't tested or not officially support it. But doesn't mean it doesnt work.
I ended up putting the 8GB synology sticks (4x2) into my I3 NUC and that works fine too.
To be honest, I'm building the array because I had added a disk every week or two, been buying the expansions from Amazon (praying I get the same batch). So far so good.
Loving the DS1019+, with 2 x M.2 PM951s in there too for read/write cache. No crashes, just works. All my docker containers I ported from the NUC onto the NAS just works. Exploring all the other DSM apps soon, git server, Plex, etc etc.
Hope that helps, good luck.
@slam: Thanks for the detailed reply. I've hit the limit on the number of Docker Containers I can run with the standard 4GB that comes with the DS918+.
It's great to hear you have no issues with 1600Mhz. I have been looking at Crucial and trying to match the 1866Mhz speed of the Synology RAM, but seems to be way more expensive.
@Master Bates: I have two Crucial CT8G3S186DM 8GB RAM sticks installed in my DS918+ and I have no problems.
@Crammed: Thanks! Those are the ones I was looking at, seems to be about $160 for 2 sticks from the usual retailers.
There was an eBay seller selling them for $99 a pair, but I umm'd and ahh'd about whether they were legit and he sold out. Claimed he bought them in bulk and was selling them unboxed.
@Master Bates: I think if you put in 1866Mhz, they will still drop down to 1600Mhz.
I don't think the extra Mhz will make that much of a difference in the scheme of things, you will probably hit the CPU bottleneck if your running heaps of stuff.
@slam: Why did you choose a drive designed for a desktop computer rather than a NAS drive? Just curious. Cost?
they aren't NAS rated drives though
Looking forward to when $25 per TB is the normal price for drives. I might be waiting a while :(
I'm 2tb away from filling my array - do you think the price of drives will go down or up during the Coronacrisis?
Why would it go down?
Our dollar is going down, we dont manufacture them locally, supply chains across the globe are getting compromised.
I’m running and old Synology DS1010 which is no longer supported and hence stuck on legacy OS version. I thought I read that newer version doesn’t support native torrent app on the NAS and for mobile, is that true?
definitely not true
Do most ppl use the native client or a 3rd party?
I used the default one for a while but now I use SABNZBD through Docker.
You can run absolutely whatever you want in a docker image.
Does anyone use expansions for these? Are they cost effective at all?
I know a 4 drive bay wont be sufficient for me in the long run. As I've already got 3 full drives that would go in there, at least.
But I don't want to shell out for a larger 8 bay at the moment. Wondering if it's worth getting this and then an expansion when I need it?
Expansion drives cost more than the NAS itself. If you're able to split the data between 2 then it's usually better to buy a second NAS.
Yeah thanks I'll just hold off and get a larger one when I need it
Don't buy it with the intention of expanding it, just buy the appropriate size.
Any WD Black available with the code?
What are these things useful for?
A NAS newbie question: can I use different size HDD drives in this NAS? If I do, will all of them default to the size of the smallest HDD? Thanks in advance :)
Yes, using Synology Hybrid RAID. Google Synology RAID calculator to see how it works.
You can, but it isn't recommended unless you already have the drives like that.
certainly. I run SHR with 2x8tb and 2x4tb
Even with 20% off, their drives are more expensive. I just ordered 10tb drives elswhere that were $40 cheaper (and they weren't an especially good deal).
Where did you find those 10tb drives?
I just eBay searched 'ST10000VN0008' they were $439 each.
That's still more expensive per TB than the 8TB's listed.
@DryScissors: Like I said, it wasn't an especially good deal, but I wanted the TB per drive, not $ per TB.
Friends dont let friends buy synology
Haha, why is that? I will be in the market soon. My N54L running Xpenology is nearly full (all 9TB)
What would you recommend?
Compare QNAP TS-453BE-4G and NASSynology DS918+4G, they are all similar price but which one it's better?
I also need to purchase NAS hard drives for this NAS, which one is better between WD RED and Seagate Ironwolf?
Doesn't really matter, just make sure they're all the same model, and get each one from a different vendor.
You recommond to get NAS hard drives from different vendor which means to avoid they are in same batch, then there is problems in this batch? They are 4 bays, can I buy two HDDs first, then buy the rest two when I needed later on. Which means new HDDs and Old HDDs will mix in the Raid group. Or it's better to buy all 4 new HDDs at same time?
I did this with mine, I set up SHR with two 8TB HDDs. I then bought two additional 8TB HDDs and converted to SHR2 when I added them. It's been about a week and the DS918+ is still working to check parity consistency to add thenew HDDs. In hindsight I should have bought all my drives at the same time.
You may be able to request different batch numbers from the one vendor.
Can anyone tell me how it compares to the DS420J Synology NAS? That one is a few hundred cheaper.
Slower (Realtek vs Celeron) and less RAM.
Thanks mate
It looks like currently the DS418Play is way too expensive, making the DS918+ much better value
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Link here
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