Some good deals there on Musashi products like the 2kg whey protein for $39.99
https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/91338/musashi-100-wh…
Some good deals there on Musashi products like the 2kg whey protein for $39.99
https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/91338/musashi-100-wh…
Thanks OP. Needed pre-workout resupply. Bought 3.
Just cancelled my order from woolies & bought from the Chem. Cheers
Low quality supermarket junk. Even at half price it's barely a couple of dollars cheaper than proper BulkNutrients supplements.
is it the taste? or the actual product nutrient?
Musashi is well known. Doubt there would be any difference to the international brands.
Sorry he is right. I used to use musashi about 20 years ago but things have changed alot. They are a low quality supplement product who spend all their money on sponsorships and marketing rather than quality ingredients.
Most things have gotten worse since 2000's. There's so much hype about protein that I think any difference is actually perceived difference.
@Cave Fire: Actually generally protein quality has gotten better over time due to processes and more upfront information on what type of ingredients are being used. Same goes for flavouring techniques and mmixability
@lonewolf: yeah, they are all pretty much the same now. I also like Ripped Nutrition + Aussie protein Vanilla. Mushashi High protein also has green tea extract and other things that help. Had bad experiences with ordering online brands and now avoid.
I would like to know or see where this is backed up. the only review I can find puts it at number 7 and its cons it lists aren't that bad - http://www.proteinreview.com.au/7-best-whey-protein-powder-s…
People overthink supplements too much, there isn't too much in a lot of products besides different sources of protein, potentially different sweeteners, aminos etc Are people really going to notice a difference between using these and what they consider high class protein? doubtful, maybe gut issues if you have a reaction to ingredients. If people think that they are going to get a massive gainz difference then they are kidding themselves.
@worthy1: You realise that is a biased review site right? And actually there can be a lot of difference including fillers or inaccurate ingredient listing's. Technologies used for micronising as well as for instantising. As well as the different whey protein extraction process but this last step not so except for some people with allergy issues. It's not about massive gains. It's about quality vs junk.
@lonewolf: Ok, and where are the reviews that show it is junk? or please list what you believe in the ingredients is 'junk'? Id also be keen to here what these ingredients are that make other proteins junk with an example of one that is full of them. Otherwise people are making out something is 'junk' for the sake of it or what the bro's have been talking about in the gym is the best.
I used to buy these top of the line proteins (expensive) all the time. When i was short on cash i went through a stage where i bought the 'junk' ones (cheaper ones). I saw nothing different happen to my body with the 'junk' as i did when i was blowing cash on the the 'quality'
Sure there are those difference but people will not notice a differece on their body and the benefits or junk ingredients are not going to make it better for you. Just would be nice that people back up why something is junk so people have real info.
@worthy1: No worries mate, keep buying what you want. If you want to find out about the junk or controversies that have come into life over the past decade on protein powders and how alot of them put junk and fillers or make artificial claims on the ingredients list. Do some research, it's even on some of the forums on this site. I do my own research and work out at home so don't have advice from bros. Been researching supplements for more than 20 years now. Have a couple of mates who were in the marketing team for musashi about 8 years ago or so now. And mate musashi is one of the pricier brands compared to alot of other brands out there. It's not one of the cheaper brands.
Try talking to some of the family owned supplement specific stores. Some of them may have biased allegiances but others also have inside information. I remember one told me about red back protein having problems and false ingredients listing's about 6 months before the news broke publicly. I still kept buying it and then realised I should have listened to them. They had been trying to help me.
@lonewolf: Yup I know all about fillers and the supplement game is full of artificial claims. Sure your body doesn't need those extra fillers or sweetners but its also not harming anything especially if you work out intensely. To me it comes down to mixability and taste between junk and quality.
All im getting at is people jump on a brand and say it is junk with absolutely nothing to back it up, if it is junk for a reason then someone should be able to rattle off why pretty easily which would be helpful for people. I haven't seen anything on here yet to back it up.
Anyway all good, Its not just the protein they have on sale, its all of it which some of you cant go wrong, I have been using Musashi's ZMA for years and rate it highly :)
@worthy1: No one is jumping on a brand, I used to use Musashi, in fact it was the first brand i started using about 23 years ago when i started on supplements. I used Bulk and then loaded protein 1 as well as another one that had a red label from musashi but cant remember what that one was called. People have said a lot of things on why its junk , you just chose to disbelieve them so thats fine as its your choice.
I literally have more than 100 kg of protein at the moment, as i like to try different brands and every time i see good sales come up, i buy some even if i dont need it right now, a lot of my friends end up taking protein off my hands anyway, Musashi has never been that great for the 2 reasons you just mentioned, mixability and taste. In fact a while back it was atrocious for those things but has improved since. I still have some musashi products namely beta alanine and a creatine combo and i think a glutamine one plus a preworkout one and a BCAA product i think. Only bought them as they were on super special prices so figured would try it out.
Fact is though they sold out and did become a supermarket product, the quality of ingredients they used dropped compared to the price they charge. You look at the standard pricing of their products and the ingredients they use in those products and there are much better products out there., Plus the one mentioned on the OP was protein products as thats easily the most popular type of supplemnent people buy (some form of protein powder product). Which then brings into question ingredients, as well as a lot of other factors. I switched away from musashi protein because the price kept getting higher and then i noticed and at the time thought that its nornmal to have the digestion issues i did with their products as well as the flavour was atrocious and they never mixed that well. I tried a few other brands and i saw the differences straight away.
In terms of saying fillers are not harmful or doesnt matter, that doesnt make sense, the whole point of ingredients listings is so you know what you are getting and putting into your body and for what price. Fillers dramatically alter this perception, if there is less protein and a lot more carbs or the protein quality is lower and not able to be absorbed as well, then the price / value aspect is greatly altered. Plus when it comes to supplements as it is a pricey product generally as well as people are taking it for health reasons and so you would want it to be more accurate and informational in what you are taking in especially when some people take supplements also for allergen issues and can only absorb certain types of nutrients or food. Others would be on special calorie restrictive diets or systems and fillers will alter all that and they wouldnt know.
For mixability and taste i am always impressed by scitec and dymatize used to be very good too but i havent tried the latter in a few years. Balance is decent for mixability but flavour isnt that great. ON is decent both both but i dont think their flavours compete with Scitec or Syntha. then i have a lot of Aussie brand ones that have their own pros and cons. Any i digress there are so many brands to go through or list.
But in terms of Musashi, my opinion wasnt just based on my own experiences, like i said it was my first supplement brand and i thought it was the best back then, More expensive than some brands but cheaper than others like Bsc. Back then I generally only bought Aussie or NZ. There was the beginning of a lot of smaller brands like Cell biology and the first no frills protein online order system in australia, but to make it worth while you probably wanted to buy 10 or 20kg so thats what i did , and no flavouring / separate flavouring. But then some retailers told me some stuff and i realised some brands spent a lot more money on marketing and that was the way to get their brands out there and not on quality of ingredients. Then the final straw was when a couple of people who were working for Musashi told me some things.
But I am happy to be proven wrong if things have changed and the products have changed recently as well as pricing. What worries me is the price some people pay at retail for products when there is so much cheaper and better value ones out there but its just through marketing and being sold through stores like woolies.
Shame about the 1% cashback ATM!
Protein bars aren't too bad at $2.50
aka soy bars. Pass.
Good deal for the protein powder when half price.
Just a note that their standard serving size is 45 grams (one and a half scoops) where many other brands have a single 30g scoop size.
So if you are comparing nutrition with other brands look at the per 100g panel.
That's for their 'high protein' powder which includes milk powders as ingredients.
I'd probably recommend the '100% whey' product for a couple dollars extra and doesn't have milk powders.
Anyone tried their plant protein? I've been working my way through all the brands to see how they taste but any feedback before jumping in?
Hopefully it is better than bulk nutrients. I had 2 different flavours and they are terrible lol. I always mix it with fruits
Yeah I found BN to be just OK when used for smoothies but when straight with water, not a fan and like all their other powders I found mixability really poor.
Looks like GP matched it if there store is closer for you: https://www.goodpricepharmacy.com.au/musashi-bulk-protein-po…
Tried chocolate flavour, tasted horrible - any other flavours that taste good?
The protein bars are pretty good though, but even at $2.50, I would still go with this.
Aussie Bodies on Catch are $20 for 12 and contain 27g. I grabbed 5 boxes yesterday during the 15% cashback.
Nice, time to stock up