Recommendations for a Second Family Car under $17,000

I will try to be short.

We recently realised that unfortunately we need a second "runaround" car.

I and my missus both are paranoid about the risk of something mechanical going wrong, so we prefer something that comes with at least a year of warranty.

There are not too many options among the relatively reputable brands within the budget we got.

Search results are quite obvious and predictable - heaps of lower spec KIA Rio's/Ceratos' with 30k-40K kms on the odometers as well as Lancers from 2017. New Toyota Yaris is also an option but it is slightly beyond our budget.

The only 2, so to speak, "bargains" in the search results (if we exclude Chinese and French brands) are 2018 Holden Astra Sedan and 2019 demo Suzuki Baleno. Of course, they get in this price range for a reason. The Baleno is "made in India", so likely designed and built not for the 1-st world. On the positive side: 5Y warranty and 12m service intervals. The Astra is a discontinued model sold by Holden but still 3.5 years of warranty and the LS+ version comes with some 'nice-to-haves' + relatively low mileage.

I couldn't find any credible Australian reviews for both. However, reviews from our American friends about Chevrolet Cruzes-2 (Holden Astra) are quite positive in terms of reliability and comfort.

Thank you.

Clarification #1.
Here is the abovementioned review, I have filtered to 2018.
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/chevrolet/cruze/2018

Poll Options

  • 13
    New 2019 Toyota Yaris ~$18K
  • 2
    Holden Astra Sedan LS+ 2018 MY18 - <2,000 km ~$18K (probably heavily negotiable)
  • 0
    Mitsubishi Lancer ES 2017 MY17 - <20,000 km ~$16K
  • 12
    Lowest Specs of KIA Rio/Cerato 2018 - ~30,000 km ~$15-$17K
  • 1
    Suzuki Baleno Demo 2019 ~$16K
  • 8
    Other under $17K

Comments

  • +9

    Having worked for both Suzuki and Holden, strike those 2 cars off your list. Go for a Swift if you want Suzuki, and avoid Holden now unless you like depreciation.

    The used cars you're looking at, with 40-50,000kms are ex-rentals. Check for damage repairs.

    Could always get a 2018 Corolla within that budget, which would have warranty until 2021.

    Yaris is $17,490, less for demos, but the 1.3L is gutless

    • +1

      Thanks for the link,
      the problem with the previous gen of Corolla. They are beyond my psychological borderline of 30k kms and I start thinking in the way "hmmm. why not to add extra 9k and buy a brand new Corolla and enjoy my life". That leads to the next question, if I am ready to spend $25k, why not to buy another SUV…

      • How old are the kids? What's the other car in the driveway?

      • You can already tell that they hold their values incredibly well. This is something to consider for the future as well, that they will still hold their value. 6 mth service interval though, i'm not sure how much you need this second runaround car.

    • +1

      Why is the Swift your only recommended Suzuki?

      • Not my only one, just the main one in OP's budget

  • -7

    Why exclude French? If you're buying used they offer outstanding value for money and are great cars these days

    • +14

      are great cars these days

      What's next on your comedy routine?

      • -8

        People like you aren't worth debating with so I will say no more. Carry on in your ignorance.

        • +6

          People like me? You mean someone who has extensive exposure to various vehicle brands, both new and used, and subsequent resale values, cost of ownership stories etc?

          No please, tell me more about that 1 french car your mum's friend owned

        • +1

          No need to act French!

        • +1

          French cars are rubbish. There is a reason their resale is horrendous.

          • -4

            @brendanm: BAHAHAHAH. Gotta love the OzBargain hive mind. No point commenting on automotive threads.

            A French brand was voted the most dependable brand of 2019. Anyone who says modern French cars are rubbish is an ignorant fool.

            The resale is poor due to other reasons. Anyway I am not going to debate, enjoy your Corollas :)

            • +2

              @nubzy: I had to work on them, they are crap. I speak from experience.

            • +1

              @nubzy:

              A French brand was voted the most dependable brand of 2019.

              Where?!

              Britain - Lexus
              UK - Subaru
              US - Lexus
              Aus - Mitsubishi
              Aus(?) - Genesis

      • +3

        Next up Lada. Great car with 3 x 20 inch subbies for the Slavic bass.

    • I considered a Peugeot 2008/ Renault Clio the killer is their cost of service for Peugeot) and parts availability if something goes wrong (for both).

      • +1

        Both also require 95 RON fuel minimum, and the Clio comes from Turkey, not France ;)

    • +2

      Used French cars are 'value for money' because they're no longer good cars so drop in price dramatically. They're great when new for couple years, then quickly fall to pieces. Anyone that's lived in Europe for a while knows this well.

    • +1

      I used to own a 2004 Renault Megane. I must admit, it had some features that were quite unique for its class like push start, excellent interior and the best steering settings I 've ever had. There were numerous design , yes, design, omissions. I am pretty sure they all are googlable but from top of my head without googling:
      - not sure about the proper term, but something like "phase corrector/regulator", it failed on every second car. It is still drivable but but absolutely gutless when it is broken.
      - unless you are an acrobat you cannot change any headlight globe. You have to visit your service centre. If I remember correctly they changed the EU Regulation about changing globes because of this Megane.
      - their AT's didn't last more than 150000 kms;
      - they had problems with the air bag wiring
      Probably there were more design omissions but I can vouch for #1 and #3, and tend to believe about #2.

    • +2

      Why exclude French?

      Hahahahaha…. oh dear lord. This is what happens when kids are allowed near a computer…

      Euro cars are trash. French are on a whole other level of trash when it comes to cars…

      Where is that other guy that gets 1,000km from a tank and only owned his Peugeot 208 for 2 years before just giving it to a scrap metal yard, all while claiming it was the best car they had ever owned?

      • To group German vehicles in your definition of trash, is pretty embarrassing.

        • +1

          No, you’re right, it’s not like VW have ever had any issues with their cars, oh, apart from Dieselgate, the DSG fiasco, their general mediocre reliability, their relatively expensive servicing and repair costs, VW’s flagrant disregard for Australian consumer law and their willingness to treat their customers like shit… that’s the embarrassing part…

          Yes, I would buy a German car over a French one, but I would not buy a VW over a Toyota, Hyundai or a Kia.

  • +1

    John Cadogan is that you?

  • Nah, I am not John, not Cadogan and I think I am 20+ younger.

  • It sounds like reliability is very important to you. A Yaris is the safest bet for you or a used Corolla. Avoid European cars and most definitely Holdens.

    • I would even consider Holdens if I didn't find those American raving reviews about the Chevrolet Cruze 2nd gen

      • Produced in different factories

      • I wouldn’t. All my experience with Holdens has shown me that their quality control just isn’t what it should be. Holden as a brand is going down the toilet - they will disappear in not too long I suspect - there is a reason for that.

  • +1

    Why not a lightly used Yaris with warranty? Should fit the budget.

    Or doesn’t anyone sell these after a short while?

    • Not much point when a new one is $17,490. Strip the stamp duty off and you could consider it an ~$17k car ;)

      New one gets the benefit of the 5yr warranty, pre-2019 was 3yr

      But again, the 1.3L sucks

    • No one sells them and if they sell they are only $1-1.5k cheaper than brand new (before haggling of course), so a bit pointless to save $1.5k.

  • Second hand Yaris or Corolla

  • +1

    If you want a Yaris, buy used. It's madness to buy a 'new' Yaris now with the 4th gen coming out this year. The current showroom model is essentially the same car that came out in 2013 with minor facelifts.

    • New model Yaris will be over $20k.

      Op already pointed out that used ones are only $1k or so off a new one, with lesser warranty. Why would you?

  • +4

    Honda Jazz is another alternative to yaris with better handling and bigger boots.

  • +1

    VW polo comfortline 85TSI Demo with remainder of 5 year warranty. Great car - try to get one with driver assistance pack. Much more powerful and fun to drive than a Yaris.

    • Yes, I saw them.
      I am a bit scared of 3-cyl cars. Probably, just my perception (no idea where it comes from), those engines are for tractors and motorbikes. Secondly, they are assembled in South Africa, so not sure about quality control there.

  • -2

    Wow, is this the new norm in car buying or have dealers had this type of duck walk into their sights since forever? Psychological borders and paranoia yield big bucks I suppose. Most of your cars are rubbish, however there has been some really good suggestions here and I would take their local advice over fake pumped up reviews of machines made in other factories which aren't like for like. Wowie, wish I could sell you a vehicle or two, would make a killing. In saying that I'm a car guy and have owned all sorts of exotic and weird rides and I wouldn't trade them for any of the vanilla suggestions put forward by the masses. Good luck.

  • OP - what's your other car?

  • +1

    Have you looked at PD series i30's?

    • Yes, they are slightly more expensive than Ceratos for the same year and come with shorter warranty (5Y vs. 7Y) but you're right I should start monitoring them too.

  • Buy one for $16,000 and bank the change

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