Any Lawyers Here in Healthcare? Need an Opinion or Idea How to Deal with Doctors in Australia - Simple Issue No Treatment

PaperplaneXXX on 21/12/2019 - 22:35
Last edited 23/12/2019 - 10:24 by 1 other user

Hi all,
I am in need to speak to a Lawyer or someone who knows how legal system in Health care works here in Australia.

Story short: have been suffering from a health problem, complained to doctors a lot over the past 5 years. They Can't find the cause.
1 year ago I did research myself, pushed on doctors for an extended culture of a sample - urine. Before they performed 2-3 day culture and nothing was growing. I also tried a different lab for the extended culture with positive outcomes.
Now in two occasions they found a cause for symptoms - an infection - an organism in high concentration.
Although giving antibiotics for a short period of time not taking into account Chronic course of the desease. Doesn't really help much.
My complains are not taken into account with attempts to prescribe Antidepressant and indirectly pointing out that I am crazy.
Things are getting worse and worse with Fatigue and other nasty effects - depression, life quality low. Fever 37 . Don't want to lose job and life.

Now I have got a result recently with antibiotic sensitivity and its only Gentamycin - intramuscular antibiotic not oral. Other oral options not sensitive at all. So you have to go to the hospital for treatment…
Yet they decline that and prescribed an antibiotic from 1970s a very old one.

I need to sort that problem once and for all.
Any recommendation. How to sue the doctor for not taking my symptoms and complaints seriously? I am prepared to spend money on a lawsuit.
what is the healthcare negligence and how to prove that.

At least I want to be able to use sort of language to try to push on them…
I cant continue living like that! IT is a living hell sometimes not able to get out of bed.

I hears there is a rule of LAw here in Australia there are for sure some legal things behind the doctors.
So its just the matter how to speak properly with them.

Any pieces of advice highly appreciated.
I am a bit desperate.

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  • Amaris on 21/12/2019 - 22:59
    +9

    Suing the doctor is not going to take care of your problem, is it?
    What's the organism that grew in the urine sample and at what concentration?

    Things are getting worse and worse with Fatigue and other nasty effects - depression

    So do you actually have a history of depression or do you attribute your depression to the urine infection?

    So you have to go to the hospital for treatment…Yet they decline that

    Who's 'they'? Could you not walk into an Emergency Department with your urine culture results and seek treatment?

    • whooah1979 on 22/12/2019 - 00:45
      +4

      Suing the doctor is not going to take care of your problem, is it?

      It may if the patient is looking for a fat cheque.

    • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:21

      E.coli. That a normal culture in the gut but not in some other parts of the body.
      In other parts it can cause infection and inflammation.

      • HighAndDry on 22/12/2019 - 23:49
        +3

        You think E. Coli is giving you depression…?

        • Scrooge McDuck on 23/12/2019 - 11:28

          Pretty sure chronic illness is giving him depression.

      • Scrooge McDuck on 23/12/2019 - 11:02

        Has your prostate been checked?

  • JimmyF on 21/12/2019 - 23:03
    +7

    My complains are not taken into account with attempts to prescribe Antidepressant and indirectly pointing out that I am crazy.

    This isn't the USA you can't sue the health system as they didn't diagnose you straight away.

    I am a bit desperate.

    Focusing on getting better

    • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:24

      yeah I agree. The amount of money I spent…already .
      Like that 5000 AUD for 3 weeks in Ayurvedic clinic in Bali.
      It was a great detox for sure…but….did i heal? no

    • AbsX on 22/12/2019 - 16:45
      +2

      What the hell is an integrative doctor lmaooo

      You'd have better results seeing a chiropractor to treat OPs problem

  • scrimshaw on 21/12/2019 - 23:34
    +5

    You can get free legal aid in NSW by calling Legal Aid on 1300 888 529

    https://www.legalaid.nsw.gov.au/get-legal-help/legal-helplin…

    Hours: 9am to 5pm, Monday to Friday.

  • cnmarine on 21/12/2019 - 23:36
    +8

    You can't push on doctors to treat you with a lawyer's letter. As soon as they receive the letter, they'll disengage from you and prepare a case themselves.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/12/2019 - 23:38
    +5

    Stop wasting everyone's time reading your whinge about problems that may or may not exist and your attempts to seek compensation for damages that may or may not exist.

      • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 00:08
        +4

        I could possibly be suffering depression and am not in a place for my comments to be called appalling.

        The argument from ignorance can extend to anything and everything.

        • Downvoter on 22/12/2019 - 01:18
          -3

          I’ll rephrase it for OP and you vikvance - how about the both of you whingers fvck off

    • serpserpserp on 22/12/2019 - 08:48
      +3

      Aren't you a medical student or GP?

      • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 12:35
        -2

        Neither.

    • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 08:56

      You know I think it's time we called time on that approach which has simply not worked in the history of medicine, ever. ;)

      • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 12:37

        The approach to treat and/or prioritise based on level of legal threat and)or complaints has also been sub optimal.

        • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 14:20

          I think these situations need a certain approach that requires extra training, it's just not being done so much yet - I've just been lucky on the rotation front. Too many in the system either dismissing or going down that legal threat pathway - there is middle ground here but it's time consuming.

          • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 15:16
            +1

            @MessyG: I've been around long enough to see the ugly side of medical liability.

            Summary from the insurer - if the patient wants to make a complaint/sue, it doesn't matter how well you did and how great your notes are, you'll wish you never got into medicine. If you want to keep advancing, learnt to spot your trouble patient and refer them to someone you don't like.

            • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 20:16

              @[Deactivated]: Sure but it doesn't mean you can't treat the diagnostically challenging with respect and an evidence-based approach.

              • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 20:45
                +2

                @MessyG: Respect is bilateral. In this case, the patient has breached that contract.

                Prior to that breach, there is no indication the doctors were treating the the patient without evidence.

                The patient has effectively withdrawn their participation in the doctor patient relationship. The person is just another person to the doctor.

                • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 21:24
                  +1

                  @[Deactivated]: It doesn't work that way - a disrespectful patient does not give the doctor the right to be disrespectful back. They are the sick one in this setting, sick people aren't exactly always on their best behaviour.

                  • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 21:27
                    +2

                    @MessyG: Disrespectful was being nice.

                    Trying to use the law for financial gain against the doctor… to each their own but that's one clear line for me to drop a patient quick smart.

                  • Scrooge McDuck on 23/12/2019 - 10:48

                    @MessyG:

                    It doesn't work that way - a disrespectful patient does not give the doctor the right to be disrespectful back. They are the sick one in this setting, sick people aren't exactly always on their best behaviour.

                    Also, in general terms and not saying I agree with OP's approach, the doctor-patient relationship has a business facet. If a customer is not happy with a service for which they have paid (in one way or another) they have a legal right to recourse.

              • HighAndDry on 22/12/2019 - 23:52
                +1

                @MessyG: The risk posed might mean it's far better - for the doctor (no payout) and society (no losing a competent dr) to avoid them.

    • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:28
      -6

      well you know….i wish you not gonna get into something like my condition.
      Trust me its a living hell. Although its related to urinary tract.

      I cant really understand how people cope with Cancer or something really really bad?

      My symptoms and state is a light version of that Lyme patients experience.
      Lyme is very bad. Extremely so i shall probably be optimistic…

      Been bitten by ticks many times overseas. Maybe sending blood to Germany is not a bad Idea.

      The reason why i posted this is …sometimes in bad period i am so bad that I loose interest to everything!
      i don't care about life or Job…trust me i don't want to loose everything because of sickness and be like on Centrelink?

      • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 16:40
        +2

        So you think the best course of action is to get the doctor to take responsibility for your misfortune?

        Given your realisation that you want to go against local medical advise, your better bet it seek treatment elsewhere (which you think is better anyway), not sue someone.

        trust me i don't want to loose everything because of sickness and be like on Centrelink?

        So trying to take someone else's assets is the more noble course of action?

      • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 20:14
        +3

        It sounds like you're going through a really hard time Furan. Keep seeing your GP - try to stick with the same one and do what they recommend. That feeling you're describing of not being interested in anything is a bit worrying and sickness can make you so depressed especially if it feels like there is no end in sight. You can have both the underlying problem and the depression treated at the same time - one doesn't cancel out the other.

      • HighAndDry on 22/12/2019 - 23:54
        -1

        Your symptoms sound like depression. Your theories sound like paranoia.

  • spackbace on 21/12/2019 - 23:39
    +8

    I daresay that a lack of treatment isn't something you can sue for. "The doctor didn't know what issue I have" isn't exactly grounds for a case.

    And mention lawyers to a doctor and I reckon they'll just say they can't treat you

  • vikvance on 21/12/2019 - 23:43
    +2

    As long as the doctor did the same things which the average qualified doctor would do, then you have zero chance of winning the lawsuit.

    Also, if you lose the lawsuit, the you will have to pay part of the legal fees of the doctors. This could run into many thousands of dollars.

    I would suggest trying changes in your diet to see if that can help improve your mood and fatigue. If you are eating a lot of stuff with sugar, then try cutting out the sugar. Also, reduce the amount of carbohydrates that you're eating (bread, rice, pasta) and increase the amount of protein (meat, eggs, lentils). Try out regular daily exercise, maybe at a gym, to see if that can help your mood. You can also look at various supplements for mood. Examine.com is a good source of reliable information on supplements.

    • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:30
      +1

      Thanks for the good thoughts!
      I have changed my diet significantly. Gluten free dairy free.
      Limited sugars. Yes you right I feel Better…
      but the pain and fatigue and discomfort…
      supplements help but ….condition is there.

  • p1 ama on 21/12/2019 - 23:52
    +12

    I am in need to speak to a Lawyer or someone who knows how legal system in Health care works here in Australia.

    Firstly, I respect your right to speak with a lawyer and obtain proper legal advice. I encourage you to do so. I'll try and give you my 2c.

    Story short: have been suffering from a health problem, complained to doctors a lot over the past 5 years. They Can't find the cause.

    See another doctor.

    Although giving antibiotics for a short period of time not taking into account Chronic course of the desease. Doesn't really help much.

    See another doctor.

    My complains are not taken into account with attempts to prescribe Antidepressant and indirectly pointing out that I am crazy.

    Hahaha, what? People who take antidepressants aren't "crazy". I really doubt there's any sort of indirect reference.

    Things are getting worse and worse with Fatigue and other nasty effects - depression, life quality low. Fever 37 . Don't want to lose job and life.

    See another doctor.

    I need to sort that problem once and for all.

    See another doctor.

    Any recommendation. How to sue the doctor for not taking my symptoms and complaints seriously? I am prepared to spend money on a lawsuit.

    See another doctor.

    what is the healthcare negligence and how to prove that.

    See another doctor.

    I cant continue living like that! IT is a living hell sometimes not able to get out of bed.

    See another doctor.

    Any pieces of advice? highly appreciated.

    See another doctor.

    I am a bit desperate.

    See another doctor.

    • whooah1979 on 22/12/2019 - 00:52
      +12

      Are you saying that the patient should talk to 9 different doctors?

      • p1 ama on 22/12/2019 - 01:07
        +3

        Nope, I'm saying that there have been so many opportunities for OP to take charge of his own health and seek out further medical advice.

    • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:32
      -2

      Very good point! I have changed so many doctors and sought opinions. Also overseas as well with experimental treatment.

      • p1 ama on 22/12/2019 - 19:15
        +3

        Look, like with any other profession, there are going to be good doctors and bad doctors. If you've come across a bad doctor, there's no point in continuing to fight and waste your time. On the other hand, if, like you say, you've seen many doctors and haven't come to any sort of conclusion, then it might be worth thinking about whether putting the blame on your doctors is the best way forward.

        Anyway, I do believe in the judicial system and I do think the need for it exists. However, unless someone has done something that has caused you harm, you cannot sue them. If a doctor has failed to diagnose you, he hasn't done you harm. You are simply no better off than if you never saw that doctor at all. On the other hand, if the doctor chopped off your arm or something when it didn't need to be, then yes, you would have a lawsuit.

      • RockyRaccoon on 22/12/2019 - 19:51

        I have changed so many doctors and sought opinions

        So which one are you going to sue?

        I have a good friend who has Chronic fatigue, and has had so for 15 years, been to specialists, professors and while they acknowledge she has it, they havent yet found anything that can fix it.

        Just like some cancers, they know about them, but they havent got a treatment.

        Sorry thats life. Medicine does some wonderful things, but not everything can be fixed.

        How can you sue someone who doesn't have the answer. What grounds do you think you can use. Its not like they are saying the know the issue, but they wont tell you.

  • seanj on 22/12/2019 - 00:08
    +2

    Do you have permanent residency? If you do not and you have a medical illness above the threshold as per the Migration Regulations Act of 1994 you may be denied a visa or have your existing visa cancelled. If you do have PR, perhaps try a doctor in your native tongue? Could be a communications issue between yourself and the Doctor you have been seeing.

    • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:33

      I am a citizen now.
      You maybe denied visa if you are HIV positive. But not with urology problem ahaha

      • seanj on 22/12/2019 - 23:13

        Assumed it could've been your knees as you've complained about this in the sort of thing in the past.

  • majuks on 22/12/2019 - 00:34
    +6

    Knee Pain and UTI

    Sounds like Gonorrhoea induced Arthritis if you still have the knee pain. I know your post in 2014 showed knee pain and probably its unrelated to what you have now. Not uncommon complaint from a young Russian. Heard similar compliant and case, patient also a Russian.

    Also trichomoniasis, you can only really get them readily from having sexual contact with indigenous population. Not a racist and no offense, that's just how likely you will get them here in Australia.

    OP, I suggest if you can get more STI screening and check your sleeping habits.

    There's no negligence I can see from your case, so its unlikely any lawyer will be keen to take you case on without you prepay them first.

  • Meho2026 on 22/12/2019 - 02:24
    +2

    Firstly, Ozbargain is not the best place to get legal or medical advice.

    In the situation you are describing you will not be successful in suing any Dr for negligence. If you google 'proving medical negligence' you will realise why.

    While it is possible that you have an extremely unusual physical condition it is very unlikely.
    The most likely explanation is that your issue is a psychological one. If you are able to accept this as a possibility, seek therapy.

  • ihbh on 22/12/2019 - 07:27
    +1

    pushed on doctors?

    Same doctor, same couple of doctors? Pls be specific, e.g. same GP, GPs from same medical practice, etc.

    prescribed an antibiotic from 1970s a very old one.

    Did you ask why? What did the doctor say?

    Sometimes you might have to try many different options if you've exhausted the traditional ones - doctors, toolboxes. Remember insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

    I am not an expert in this field but have an interest. Perhaps try traditional western medicine complemented with natural healing. For background, watch/read Mimi Guarneri - cardiologist practicing integrative holistic medicine.

    How to sue the doctor for not taking my symptoms and complaints seriously.

    Please let go of your anger to start the healing process.

  • Bob Svargis on 22/12/2019 - 07:50
    +3

    Try a different doctor and take responsibility for your own health rather than burdening the legal system with what looks like a pretty shaky case.

    Doctors aren't magicians.

  • backpaqer on 22/12/2019 - 08:10
    +3

    You get sh1t service from doctors (who generally try to do a good job) and failing that you want to take your chances with lawyers (who generally try to make people's lives miserable).

    To start with, doctors can afford better lawyers.
    Then the lawyers are usually the only winner. And that "no win no fee" marketing ploy, they don't say what percentage of your payout they will take if they do win (need to be very clear what "win" means… Must include their legal fees separate from any payout).

    And if you do win, the local doctors won't treat you in future and they'll be putting their fees up to cover any loss (and future losses)

  • chumlee on 22/12/2019 - 08:11
    +1

    Whilst OzBargain has by far the greatest number of non practising lawyers, I suggest you contact the Law Institute in your state and ask for a list of lawyers specialising in health

  • bargain huntress on 22/12/2019 - 08:50

    i've my spent most of my live having bad experiences with doctors

    i have yet to sue one. i have wanted to a few times.

    i have never even officially complained.

    the process for both seems very difficult.

    • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 09:01
      +2

      If they're hospital doctors, the fastest and simples way to get a complaint through is to write a letter to the CEO of the hospital (rather than the HCCC or AHPRA rigmarole). It's a bit cheeky but they take it seriously and rapidly send it through the appropriate channels on your behalf so it's off their hands (as they rightly have bigger fish to fry)! Complaints should be addressed so system improvements can be made, I wouldn't say we welcome them but they are an excellent antidote to the political pressure hospital face to churn people through.

      • bargain huntress on 22/12/2019 - 09:07

        thank you very much

        what about not in hospital? i've read you have to complain to the doctor first?

        • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 09:13
          +1

          Not in hospital you can either complain to their practice manager, or go straight for AHPRA or HCCC. If it was an honest mistake I think it's right to complain to the doctor (via receptionist or practice manager, in writing). If you think it's a problem that you know is not going to be solved then I'd go for AHPRA or HCCC. Chances are if you're complaining then other people are too, especially if it's a personality issue (unfortunately there are a lot of burnt out and vicariously traumatised doctors out there who lack the insight to realise this and don't really get how their attitude affects their patients). Your complaint might not fix it for you, but as they mount up, they make change in time. It can take years. And I'm really sorry that you've had a hard time with some members of the profession, it shouldn't be that way.

          • bargain huntress on 22/12/2019 - 09:23

            @MessyG: thanks very much.

            what level do you think something needs to be before it is worth complaining? - for yourself or for the benefit of other people

            • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 09:30
              +1

              @bargain huntress: You're the most important person in your life - complain for yourself first! The level is whatever you're unhappy with. The benefits to others are a secondary goal.

      • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:37

        yes thats the hospital and few doctors within one.

  • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 08:54
    +43

    I'll bite. Full disclosure - I'm a doctor and this post is just to educate you, it is NOT medical advice and you should absolutely keep seeing your GP.

    First of all, it sounds like you're upset and worried because you have some symptoms that have happened after an illness. That's super common, and unfortunately those symptoms can hang around even after the original problem is gone and make you worry. Again, that is totally normal. Secondly it sounds like you've had a couple of infections, or at least grown a couple of bugs, and they've been appropriately treated. Somewhere along the way, a bug in your urine has become resistant to a lot of antibiotics (which if you've been treated with multiple agents in Russia isn't surprising). A bug in your urine does not mean an infection, humans are colonised with many different kinds of bacteria, they live on us and don't cause much trouble - if you'd had a multi-drug resistant bacteria in your urine causing infection, you'd be in ICU with a condition called urosepsis. You might have convinced yourself that this bacteria is the cause of your symptoms, but doctors have to generate a list of potential causes - we can't just link things like that together and call it, we need evidence. The evidence that this bacteria is not making you sick is simply that you are not unconscious and septic!

    Gentamycin is not a nice antibiotic. It has the potential to leave you with symptoms far worse than you have now. It can destroy the nerves that govern hearing and balance and can leave you deaf and permanently dizzy. I would not be seeking that out, let alone asking a lawyer to press for it!

    As for the antidepressant - sometimes the symptoms that stay after the original illness has gone, respond really well to antidepressants and we don't know why. It's not because you're crazy - sometimes nerves go a bit haywire after illness and antidepressants can help calm them back down. And surely if that's whats been recommended, why not give it a try if only to prove them wrong? And if it helps, isn't that a good thing?

    My advice to you is go back to your GP, see the same one, and work with them. Let them be your doctor. If they recommend an antidepressant to try and reduce these symptoms - try it, they know you're not crazy, they are trying to help you. They're the ones with the experience here so trust them - the Australian medical system is extremely strict and doctors are simply not allowed to experiment on you, their advice has to be as evidenced based as possible.

    You might find this website helpful too:

    https://www.neurosymptoms.org/

    And give it some time. You didn't get this way overnight, it took you years to get like this, it's going to take some time to start slowly getting better.

    • Lastchancetosee on 22/12/2019 - 10:43
      +4

      The voice of reason and compassion. Thank you.

      • whooah1979 on 22/12/2019 - 10:56
        +3

        It is pretty crazy to ask for legal advice on a shopping forum.

      • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 11:01
        +10

        Your comment is not helpful to anyone, especially not the OP. No one thinks the OP is crazy, and if their doctors DID, they wouldn't be prescribing antidepressants, they'd be prescribing antipsychotics and referring him to a psychiatrist or inpatient mental health facility. Antidepressants have a role in pain management and functional neurology and if you didn't work in those fields you wouldn't know that. Please don't let your lack of experience do harm.

        • Meho2026 on 22/12/2019 - 13:00
          +2

          Yet youre on here telling people they can complain about their Drs to the HCCC and AHPRA, when they probably have aboslutely no grounds to do that.
          You cant speak for everyone when you say noone thinks the OP is crazy, have you read their other posts?

          • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 14:07
            +3

            @Meho2026: Not sure I understand your anger - if someone has had problems with their doctor they have every right to complain, and not everyone knows how. I told one person their options for complaint - there's no crime in that.

            You're right I can't speak for everyone, however I feel deeply cynical about people who'd attack the OP for 'being crazy' when from where I'm standing they sound scared and worried. That's not crazy. Even if you think their fear is unjustified, it still doesn't make it crazy.

          • serpserpserp on 22/12/2019 - 14:28
            +1

            @Meho2026:

            have you read their other posts?

            Hmm. I did. Seems like he was upset about his working conditions and also probably had a UTI in the past. But he doesn't come off as crazy.

            He does write in a stream of consciousness style, but that might be because he is Russian and English is his second language?

        • arkie0 on 22/12/2019 - 16:08
          -5

          I see, so OP is correct. The doctors should have prescribed antipsychotics and referred him to a psychiatrist or inpatient mental health facility but instead they incorrectly gave him antibiotics.

          Back to the original point, legal advice!

      • serpserpserp on 22/12/2019 - 14:25
        +2

        called him crazy indirectly by insinuating his nerves are crazy.

        I don't think that was said at all. The post isn't talking about nerves like they are having a mental breakdown/psychological issue. It is talking about the physical nerves that is in ones body.

        MissG above literally said:

        It's not because you're crazy - sometimes nerves go a bit haywire

      • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:39

        looking for both

    • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 16:41
      +1

      thanks a lot sounds like a reasonable approach.
      I had gentomycin a long time ago when had Pneumonia.
      You right after that my health really detiorated, like slightly.
      Was more resistant to anything because of age probably.

      • MessyG on 22/12/2019 - 20:21
        +1

        Gentamycin does do nerve damage and I suspect that there's a lot of bacteria and viruses out there that do too. You can rehabilitate from this but it does take time - the answer may not be more antibiotics and often when we find patients in this situation, there's not a magic pill that can take it all away. Improving you mood can reduce the symptoms (not make them go away completely) because mood directly affects the symptoms of any disease but at this stage I would aim for slow improvements. And like any rehabilitation, you will have good days and bad days, recovery is not a straight line. Be kind and gentle to yourself, and take some sick leave from your job so you can get on top of things a bit.

        • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 21:34

          yes I think you right antibiotics not an answer they can do more damage than benefits.
          Somehow I need to get out of that misery he he.
          Sick leave might be an option… but not for long

  • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 08:55
    +2

    Yeah the doctors are completely wrong. You don't sound crazy at all.

  • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 15:14
    +1

    Potential for a proper fun bunfight above, OP, but not quite there, yet…

    Slightly different perspective for you, just for the sake of it.

    Yes, it would be difficult to directly link any of the chronic issues you have to a failure to properly diagnose or treat, either here or back in your home country.

    As for right now and also yes, you might be in the apparently three percent of men having some experience with an intractable urinary tract infection. Consequence for you even if entirely separate to your earlier grief, certainly possible. All of those things reading as very un-fun.
    By way of whatever cause, it sounds as if you have been through quite a bit and are understandably stressed.

    Mind you, not as stressed as eager young tshow, here observed very cheerfully daydreaming about Melbourne's upcoming Uber Air dream surveillance video kindly provided, but, you know, best to keep things within certain bounds. He is a cuddly scamp.

    I don't know, looks pretty cool to me

    OP, it may not fix even the primary issue, but seems pretty simple to give the D-Mannose thing a try. Generally resistant to treatment or antibiotic-resistant bacteria,looks interesting anyway -
    https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/uti-treatment-lowers-numbers…
    https://www.mygenefood.com/can-urinary-tract-infections-cure…

    Something for you to go forward with.

    Best of luck with any doctor/specialist you might see from here on in. Best not to go down the legal path, at least and until you show them your OzBargain post! It does keenly reflect your anguish and may help them to understand, especially if struggling a bit with your English in one-on-one situations.

  • funnysht on 22/12/2019 - 21:24
    +1

    Moral of the story:

    Get a second opinion, or even a third opinion or specialist opinion rather than ozbargain advice.

    • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 21:30

      Moral of the story - do not seek compassion by trying to sue the doctor.

      • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 21:35

        the point is not to sue any doctor. The point is to talk the stronger language then they listen and administer maybe stronger antibiotics IM or IV. That wast the point but it seems its not happening. Maybe Australia is not for me….

        • [Deactivated] on 22/12/2019 - 21:36
          +3

          You can't threaten someone to do as you wish.

          Maybe in Russia you can intimidate people into doing what you want. Not here.

          • funnysht on 22/12/2019 - 21:39

            @[Deactivated]: The point is..in australia we don't want a culture of suing people for stupid reasons(not saying OP's is stupid, i havent read it).

            This is the reason why our health care system is affordable and people don't have to sell their homes because of illness.

            • gimme on 22/12/2019 - 23:11

              @funnysht: Actually that's not the reason but anyway

  • funnysht on 22/12/2019 - 21:45
    -1

    I mean if you had a guitar tutor and he wasnt showing results, would you continue to go to him and then sue him? Or would you just get a different guitar tutor

  • capslock janitor on 22/12/2019 - 23:20
    +2

    My complains are not taken into account with attempts to prescribe Antidepressant and indirectly pointing out that I am crazy.

    Some Docs also think my mum is crazy too for unexplained pains and laugh at her.. it's not fun. Luckily we left those drs, and have found a much much better helpful GP now!
    All the best.

  • deme on 22/12/2019 - 23:34
    +1

    Can you update us OP,I'm just curious of the solution. Sounds like MissG gave really good advice.

    Hope you get better mate!

  • PaperplaneXXX on 22/12/2019 - 23:49
    +1

    No solution so far.

    Health forums and resources with the same problem have different approaches.
    Some found the right antibiotic and it took 9.5 years…
    I don't think its just about the right pill.

    Its all about the immunity and genetics.
    Some people prone to cancers some are't. Genetics.
    My weakest point is urinary tract.

    I think I shall focus more on a good side. It's not something really bad like cancer. Maybe I shall be grateful that I still able to work at least…
    yes I am really pushing myself to go to the GYm or exercise. Even travel…I used to love traveling but now…I push myself. to do something.
    What they say…cognitive thinking.

    We will see, hope it's not getting any worse.

    I have got a referral to another doctor so I will give it a go.

    the letters I obtained about me are really funny though.
    The letters show how the doctors describe what they did, tests etc. nothing found….how they talk to each other.
    They are really protecting themself. Behind the lines you can read that they pin point that …patient maybe shall seek psychological advice as no infectious cause determined.
    Now at least there is sort of infection.

    • MessyG on 23/12/2019 - 07:15
      +1

      I just want to reiterate Furan, the presence of a bacteria is not the same thing as the presence of an infection. If I swabbed the inside of your mouth or your skin, I would grow a bacteria. They don't necessarily cause problems. Be careful of linking your symptoms to a single thing - in doing this you can very easily miss a bigger problem.

    • deme on 23/12/2019 - 08:27
      +1

      yes I am really pushing myself to go to the GYm or exercise. Even travel…I used to love traveling but now…I push myself. to do something.

      Hey mate you sound like me years ago, I was very sick and all the fighting and staying inside made me feel this way. Even after the original illness was gone I was still depressed, I found it exhausting to think or move and just wanted to stay in bed. I can't comment on whether or not you have a urinary tract issue. I just don't have the data or skill but what I can say from experience is that battling depression is hard and needs professional help, it's worth seeing a psychologist even if you don't want to use anti depressant medication.

      I met a former SAS dude in one of the meetups, even the most strongest people get depression there is nothing crazy about it. I don't know about Russia mate, years ago in Australia people did look down on people with depression, now seeking help is seen as taking care ofyour self.

      Antidepressants and not antipsychotics, even modern antipsychotics are not like the movies where they just sedate people, that's super old.

      Do get a second opinion, it's your health and worth it but also try see a psychologist you get 6 free sessions a year under medicare.

      Good luck get better soon

  • idonotknowwhy on 23/12/2019 - 08:02

    I think you're copping some flac here for wanting to sue the doctors. As others have said, this would be ineffective.

    Don't do this, okay?

    Reading through your post, it sounds like your problem is:

    Now I have got a result recently with antibiotic sensitivity and its only Gentamycin - intramuscular antibiotic not oral.

    You believe you need to be treated with this Gentamycin, which needs to be administered in a hospital?

    Also, help me understand please, you had some treatments with other antibiotics a few times, but said the doctors aren't taking into account the chronic nature of the issue.

    Does this mean that they worked initially, but that the infection came back when you finished treatment?

  • kaleidoscope on 23/12/2019 - 08:36

    munchausen?

  • Moderatormoocher on 23/12/2019 - 10:24

    Op has got his answers to thread will now be closed.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/12/2019 - 11:22

      I don't think he did and I don't think he will.

      Ps. You forgot to actually /thread.

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