So we are committed to buying an Audi. Budget is $40000. Looks like an A4 or Q3. keen to learn more about these vehicles. I'll admit it straight up, I am not a 'car person'. Need all the help I can get!!
A4 or Q3 Audi under $40000
Lempathy07 on 18/11/2019 - 11:47
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Petrol. I like the look of the Audi. My wife likes BMW. We have $40000 to spend and just want to buy a nice brand car. Have never done so before! Our other car is a Rav4.
get the Toyota, depreciation on Audi is brutal.
If you're keen on Audi, ex demo
get the Toyota
Their other car is a RAV4, it's not the other 1 on the list…
@spackbace: opps my bad
Audi Q2 used 2018 and keep 10K change? good thing with audis they all look the same
https://www.pickles.com.au/cars/item/-/details/CP-03-18--Bui…
https://www.pickles.com.au/cars/item/-/details/CP-03-18--Bui…
Have you driven them both?
Ask on OzAudi might get you a bit more response than here.
thanks
Like others are saying, it really depends on what you want out of a car.
Are you chasing prestige, performance, comfort? etc etc.For 40k you can get a used 15-16 Audi S3 with low KMs.
Having sat and driven one, I can say they're very comfy, clean interior and fast.hijack a bit, if you go with a second hand Audi, how much would it cost for annual service?
About this much
Cmon, second-hand could be 6 months old or 16 years old. Petrol vs diesel. Standard vs performance.
second hand Audi, how much would it cost for annual service?
It depends on the engine, gearbox and which service it is. I haven't been to a VW group workshop for 7 years but expect the basic oil service would be $300-$400; 30k = $400-$500; 60k = $600-$800; 105k is $1000-$1500.
At a specialist independent it might be a little bit cheaper but the main advantage is that a grown-up is working on your car.
Depreciation on an Audi is criminal.
Q5 owner here. Please don't do it.
Buy a Toyota or Honda.
Badge is nice but wears off quick.
Q5 owner here. Please don't do it.
Why?
Probably has a 2.0 petrol
The oil-drinking?
@brad1-8tsi: I think I did read something those being common issues when something goes wrong, but not on every engine (well, I hope not every engine anyway!).
@bobbified: inlet carbon after 60k is common on petrol & diesel.
water pump is common on the EA888 petrol
timing chain is a time bomb on some of the EA888 and if i had one I'd spend the $1200 to get the latest revision.
Having said all that, I'd probably buy another Skoda because they are fun to drive.
@brad1-8tsi: I'll have to keep those things in mind then. I've got a 2015 EA888 petrol in an Audi with 29,000km at the moment. I'm not sure whether it's Gen 1, 2 or 3 though. Fingers crossed it gets through fine!
Got to admit they are indeed fun to drive! =)
@bobbified: 2008-2013 (supposedly) but some later models have suffered too.
You should get it checked as failure is expensive (bent valves, etc). There's an inspection hole. YouTube has some good info on what to look for. humbleMechanic or Deutche Auto Parts
@brad1-8tsi: Thanks for the info! I will get it checked out while I do my next service in a couple of months. If $1200 can prevent a expensive fix, I'll be be more than happy to outlay it. =)
Yes TSFI.
Consumes oil.
Great car to drive but have had too many issues.
Here are the two scenarios:
A second hand 40K Audi - Make sure you have at least 20K in a reserve fund for repairs. You might get a good second hand or one that is about to fall apart with high Kms but either way when it is time for major repairs it is gonna hurt!
A brand new 40K Audi - It would be a bare bones car and you will be paying a major portion of that for the badge. The 40K Audi would be unexciting to drive and will lack most safety/infotainment and comfort features making it no better than a 20K Japanese or Korean and it wouldn't be fun to watch how fast your 40K car depreciates in value.
If you want to own and enjoy an Audi you need to look at cars at least 75K and upwards otherwise it is just badge snobbery at it's best.
You should look at Lexus IMHO
Is it still the case that Skoda, VW and Audi are essentially the same base with just a few extra bells and whistles added to justify the increased prices for the different badges?
Yes, but Skoda are full of bells and whistles anyway. The biggest difference is the interior quality. More hard plastics / downmarket in a Skoda.
I’ve got an A5 3.0 TDI and love it, servicing is a bit more costly than your Toyota though. 60k is about $2.2k from dealers, I think I was quoted about the same to get front disk and brakes changed lol. Independent servicing is cheaper, especially if you can source your own parts overseas. Performance is decent, 5.9 second 0-100km, 500nm of torque and <7L/100km of fuel.
I’m in a different boat, I’ve got a RAV4 Hybrid on order as I don’t want the worry or costs of owning 2x VAG products but if you know what you’re in for with the Audi then go for it. Stay away from anything before 2012, 2.0 TFSI’s drank oil like crazy, 3.0 TDI’s had swirl flaps which got stuck, earlier version of the DSG, etc.
Parts more expensive too, oil/fluids are pricy. You can’t be using the OzB Edge special I’m these cars, you need VW505/507 standard which is like double the cost if you buy it yourself, triple or four times the cost if the dealer supplies it lol. Think I was quoted $200 just for oil from the dealer, needless to say I supplied my own. For me, it’s worth it because I enjoy it.
If you want worry free driving without needing to do research, get a Lexus. The other car I was considering was the IS350 but I had the previous gen which pretty much had the same drivetrain as the previous model bar the 8 speed gearbox so wanted something different.
504/507 is often on special now. I've had it for $50-$60/5l. Not like when it first came out and was $100+/5L.
What on earth were they doing at the 60k for $2200? On a diesel it would be oil service, fuel filter, cabin filter, air filter and DSG service? What else?
If it's quattro then the haldex (torsen?), etc is @ 95k isn't it?
there are a few Audi clubs on FB based in AU and you are likely to come across some decently kept cars. An A3 sportback or S3 sportback could be had (based on what I have seen this past month) for around the $40k with a couple of years factory warranty to go. Settling for a base model Audi is a huge compromise for the badge.
incidentally in a Lexus (IS series and below) you sit on the seats - in an Audi S3 you sit in them. Big difference.
Not being a car person, be aware that second-hand European cars can quickly cost you a lot more than you expected to spend. They're generally made to only be reliable for a few years while on warranty as the manufacturers know that this is when most owners get rid of the car and lease another one.
Expect to have expensive repair bills. Maybe you won't, but the chances are high. Also consider looking into luxury Asian cars. For that budget you can get a very nice brand new Japanese or Korean car.
My 390k km Passat must be a weird one then.
That’s because it’s the exception, not the rule, and it’s owned and maintained by a mechanic, not a suburban soccer mom…
it’s like my Fiat 500. Generally considered a pile of shit by most, but mine defies the odds in appearance, but it’s all the puppetry that goes on behind the scenes that gives the illusion that it’s a great small car.
No it's just that I picked a diesel with a wet clutch DSG. Both known to be reliable. I've also only owned it for about 100k km. I've worked on plenty of other high km VW's of the same combo. My old bosses Amarok had over 300k km on it and was used often as a tow vehicle. However an oil guzzling petrol with a dry clutch DSG will not go anywhere near that distance.
People continue to pick known poor combos, and then get upset that they are shit. People also buy euro cars and then get upset when parts are more expensive.
It's also the same when people buy something like a Mazda. People who buy the non turbo petrols have a great time. People who buy crap like the cx7s and the diesels have a bad time.
People continue to pick known poor combos, and then get upset that they are shit. People also buy euro cars and then get upset when parts are more expensive.
I've had 2 friends ask for advice on VWs. Told them both to avoid the 1.4 with the DQ200 7 speed dry clutch DSG. "Spend the extra and get a diesel or the GTI or buy a Kia/Mazda/Toyota/Hyundai"
So they both bought 1.4 DSG. "The salesman told me all the problems had been fixed" At that point I gave up trying to be helpful. Thankfully one has just sold theirs (the shortest period of car ownership they ever had) and the other I've lost touch with (ex-wife's best friend).
Search for:. john cadogan audi
On YouTube. There maybe some swearing but he tells it like it is. Good chance it will put you off Audi's !He is simply a shill.
John Cadogan? LOL!
He'll say any brand that offers him the highest commission is the best!Sure, but that doesn't mean his criticisms of the brands not giving him money aren't spot on!
I say, buy the Q5. Probably one of the best cars to buy in that price bracket. And better still, if you can get a used one. A used Audi is known to be one of the most reliable and cost effective cars on the market. Excellent resale value and packed with features.
For me, if I had that $40k, I would go for a used A3 and a used Q5. It would be the quickest way you could turn $40k into $5k in less than 2 years, other than burning it.
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Saying they know nothing about cars and that they are settled on an Audi. Y’all posting in a troll thread…
I can't see why you would want to spend so much on a car. Resell value will be negligible, so you are spending an enormous amount for wheels, relative to your income.
Tax savings are nothing compared to the enormous cost. Get same car 5yrs old second hand and save. I had a 2006 Peugeot which looked/felt/drove brand new, now have a 2011 ford Mondeo titanium with adaptive cruise control, blind corner assist and everything and looks new. All well under 15k.
On your income don't even think about it, especially with baby on the way (2yrs). The lease will haunt you and you'll be legally bound!
Where did the OP post their income?
Buy the Land Rover Evoke… any one for around that price
^^ this gotta be a troll post?
Just buy a Camry
Buy the Audi, and if second hand get it from a dealership so you get the Audi approved+ 2 year warranty (which is like the new car warranty) for free.
Just do your diligence and get it independently checked, and not think just because you from a dealership you not being hustled.
As mentioned, get an S3 over A4 - they will be same price, but is only a little smaller in length and cabin - much just as comfy. If you ok with the Q3, then S3 will be fine (they have the largely same footprint and cabin size for passengers).
2 completely different cars. Petrol or diesel? A4 is technically bigger inside. Q5 would be the A4 SUV. If you aren't a car person, why are you "committed" to buying an Audi?